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Published Date: 24 February 2008
ANOTHER day when stupid errors cost us dear, another day that has left us feeling pretty sick about things.
This was a very different kind of defeat than the one in Cardiff a fortnight ago.

In Cardiff we created nothing and offered nothing. Here we had lots of the game but didn't have the composure to execute. The terrible, game-turning blunders took t
he match away from us.

I've got to admit my own part in that. The incident involving me and Denis Leamy was an error in judgment. It was stupid of me. There was no call for it and I regret it. All I was trying to do was get the ball back off him quickly but there was no need to. We had the penalty and I should have been happy with that. Instead I grappled with Leamy, he went down and I was done. I didn't hit him or anything. I didn't try to punch him. But the touch judge saw a swinging arm and the momentum we had at that moment was lost.

The try that killed us came just after the start of the second half. Another mistake. We'd missed a tackle for Ireland's first try and now we failed to take the kick-off just ahead of Ronan O'Gara's cross-kick to Marcus Horan. That was maddening because even though we were behind on the scoreboard at half-time we still felt we had a chance of winning. Ireland hadn't caused us too many problems. We caused ourselves the problems. Ireland got about three soft scores, scores that they didn't have to work all that hard to get. Anything we get these days we have to work like dogs for. That was the difference between the sides. They gave us nothing, we gave them everything.

I was happy about a number of things. We tried to play rugby for a start. I feel much better about this performance than I did about what we produced in Cardiff. That left us cold but there were plenty of positives in this.

It might seem a bit daft to say that given the points difference at the end but we caused their lineout terrible trouble, we had big chunks of possession but we have composure issues inside our opponent's 22 at the moment and they are absolutely killing us.

Psychologically, we might be thinking that since we're not creating many try-scoring opportunities that we have to nail every one that comes our way and that piles the pressure high. We get anxious. I don't know, maybe we got to Ireland's line yesterday and thought "right, we must score now because we might not get too many more chances". A bit of desperation sets in and it leads to mistakes.

Then Ireland go up the other end, we make a mistake, and they've another seven points on the board. That can rip the heart out of you.

I came off after about 65 minutes and got a lovely reception from the Croke Park crowd. Lovely in that 70,000 people booed me as I went. It wasn't great but, hey, it's not like it's the first time I've been jeered on a foreign ground. Croke Park is a stunning stadium, a real thing of beauty, but I have to say the atmosphere was a bit strange. It was pretty quiet for a long time which was maybe a tribute to us and the amount of ball we had. They were pretty noisy when I was replaced, though. In fairness to them they found their voice then.

The dressing room afterwards was like a casualty ward. Jim Hamilton has a suspected broken leg, Kelly Brown has damaged ribs, Scott Macleod and Euan Murray have problems with their shoulders. It was grim. I feel for Jim. It's terrible for him. The doc was there examining him and saying that it might not definitely be broken and he was saying I know it is, I know it is. God knows how the other lads are going to be for the England game.

Mike Blair did most of the talking afterwards. He just told us that we can't make these mistakes and expect to get anything out of games. We made it easy for Ireland in many ways. But there was an upside which there wasn't in Cardiff. We played a more expansive game, which we're not used to, and asked questions of Ireland where in Cardiff we asked none. We just have to play without the cock-ups the next time.

I'm heading back to Perpignan now. We've got a game against Dax on Saturday and I'm looking forward to that. I'm also looking forward to getting away from the Scotland scene for a week.

Nothing against anybody but I think it'll do us good just to have a look at things from a distance, to take a step back and have a right good think about where we go from here.





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  • Last Updated: 23 February 2008 10:54 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Six Nations
 
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24/02/2008 00:33:38
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Chief Ghillies Arsington-Hall,

24/02/2008 01:13:40
Nines old boy, you're a pro. I'm a pro too, and so is my wife (number 4 in Midmar).

As for you Laird, I'm sure the big man's cheeks clenched tighter with every word.
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Thane of Kirkcaldy,

Dancing in the Streets of Raith 24/02/2008 01:28:53
Well here I am half chakkit in Dublin after the latest rout.Sorry Dear Nathan but I have had enough of your indiscipline which is getting to near Grewcock proportions. Go now and do not come near a Scotland squad ever again - I have always been of the view that Al Kellock is a far better, more disciplined and inspirational player than you will ever be. As my "friend" the Laird says you are a liability.

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TomCayman,

George Town 24/02/2008 01:34:12
Nathan, hope you do read these comments, mate.

Perhaps the rush of blood meant you didn't know you did it, but you did take the swing and (watch the full match replay) were very lucky no officials got a good look at it, or it would have been the sin bin. No excuse.

Now, that out of the way, lock forwards rarely get credit where due, but I don't think I've ever seen such a workload from a forward... at times when Scotland were attacking through phase ball it looked like it was just you and Mike Blair there everytime you had to recycle. Just absolutely immense, and you should be very proud of the power of work you put in.

Yourself and Strokosch were the class of all the forwards on the pitch.

As to the rest of the game... sure, a big improvement on the previous week, but yes, silly mistakes costing tries :
- Kelly Brown out of position for one
- Henderson gambling on an intercept caused the try their left wing scored
- Total miscommunication on the second half restart causing a third.

Now forget those excuses, the Scotland team have to ask themselves this tough question :
- If any of those errors had been from Ireland, could this Scotland team (with their current lack of confidence, incsiveness, whatever one think is happening) have scored from ANY of those three errors ?

Great improvement in the basics, a power of work put in, aggressive running game, great possession stats... but Ireland had only a fraction of the possession in the first hour but when their backs got the ball, they ALWAYS looked like they could score at any moment.

Some definite positives to take, hope we can see further improvement against England in two weeks...heck, flying over to watch the game, I really do hope things get better on the pitch ! :)

Awrabest !
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pound,

fife 24/02/2008 03:02:06
Come on lads if you work your backside off and give the backs enough ball to win five games and don't get close you would get fustrated too !!!

So what he gave a penalty away he is NOT the only one to do so, I don't see anybody saying anything about the rest.

Nathan brings to the field what others don't, Aggression and Passion maybe if the other forwards help out he would not get so fustrated.

I don't agree what he did was right but by the same token he was not the reason they lost.


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inoui,

Bordeaux 24/02/2008 08:56:40
Too late now for sorry!! Swinging arms is going to get you trouble even if you'r not involved!! Professional or what???? Lost a superb chance for what......some one was pulling my shirt boo hoo!!
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Borderrugbyfan,

HAWICK 24/02/2008 09:17:16
#6 Give the backs the ball, yeah good one. Have you even seen the scottish backline? Other than Blair and Mossy it would be a waste of time. Lets be honest how many more chances is De-Luca going to get? Is he going for the world record of Most handling errors in Internationals?? The guy should never have been involved in the game on sat. he should have been at home passing a ball back and forward with a blind chimp who would have probably still shown him up.

#4 Well you must be more than half chakkit in Dublin son, in fact i think that you must have drank half of the guinness factory if you think that Ally Kellock is a better player than Hines. So hopefully you have sobered up and realised what complete and utter rubbish you have been talking. You probably know about as much about rugby as Hadden as 4 and 5 are completely different positions, Hines is a front lineout jumper and Kellock is a middle jumper and the only person that he could replace is Macleod but because kellock couldnt lace Macleods boots then i suppose that it would be a waste of time wouldn't it.
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jdships,

Trinity 24/02/2008 09:25:38
"But the touch judge saw a swinging arm and the momentum we had at that moment was lost."

So did millions of others on TV - most of them, like me no doubt , waiting for the "yellow card"
By the way suggest you change your "ghost writer" if this is the best he can come up with

" Nothing against anybody but I think it'll do us good just to have a look at things from a distance, to take a step back and have a right good think about where we go from here "

That will be three games in a row - Yes .
Yes !
" You can some of the people some of the time etc etc " comes to mind.
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24/02/2008 09:30:26
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24/02/2008 09:31:26
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Edinburgh Pete ,

24/02/2008 09:45:52
8 - what is your problem with De Luca - he didnt drop the one pass he was thrown. He should have mind it was a shocker from Parks who for once should have hoofed it up the pitch to clear the lines regardless if its 79 mins.

De Luca will be an excellent player for us however it needs a revamped backline to see this. Yesterday was the start but it needs not just Parks to be left out but Henderson and Southwell aswell.

We are now in rebuilding phase, For England we need to play this pack with a tweak at 7 and 8, Blair and Paterson at half backs and a backline that is based on the A team plus De Luca and Webster then we will see further progress but one things for sure. This season has wooden spoon written all over it because Frank hasnt learnt his lessons and we are now suffering because of it.
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Shameless,

Up at the Roseburn funny farm 24/02/2008 09:51:50
QUOTE FROM MME GERTRUDE LAW (SRU SPOKES "NON-PERSON") WEARING HIS / HER OWN CLOTHES, aka a buftie in mufti

Gottle a geer.......

Gottle a geer.....

Gottle a geer.....

I've come over all quier!!

Wagga's right off his trolley.

I'll have another glass of Bolly.
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Thane of Kirkcaldy,

Dancing in the Streets of Raith 24/02/2008 10:03:47
#8
Name the Scottish second row pairing who played when we beat England two years ago. Kellock and MacLeod I believe. Hines is a liability on the pitch matched closely by your efforts at grammar !!






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SRU PRESIDENT, COMMITTEE & ASSORTED BUFTIES,

Spiv heaven - noses deep in the trough 24/02/2008 10:04:36
Don't worry, chaps. We'll sort it all out.

We've been addressing these issues and shortcomings quite intensively (lots of meetings and revised plans) over the past few years.

We are quite near to producing a new updated "strategy for success", and Wee Presidente Wacko-Jacko aka "El Invisible" will be telling you all about it at a forthcoming meeja launch / conference in the usual rumbling gravy train, over more bacon rolls than you could shake a Borders farmer's jowls at.

Stay tuned.

Michty, it wisnae oor fault!
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jbascotinengland,

24/02/2008 10:09:39
Hines has been caught enough times to know that he can't get away with things like that. His an idiot if he thinks that writting a load of pish like this will make up for his actions on the pitch.

Never mind sorry, what the Scotland fans want and expect from a senior player, Nathan, is a performance to inspire the rest of the team to raise their game. Not to be involved in petulant hand-bags.

How many times have we been subjected to articles from Hines the day after a game that start with an apology and decend in to self pitying tosh. I would say give it up and stick to the day job but your not anything special at that either!
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SRU PRESIDENT, COMMITTEE & ASSORTED BUFTIES,

Seaching for "simple" solutions..... 24/02/2008 10:13:54
Hey (self-appointed) Laird! Would you like a job? You seem to be just the type of gullible ignorant wee nyaff we like to put in place as a stool-pigeon to take the flak when it goes belly-up. As it frequently does!

Please write the sum total of your knowlege and experience on the back of a 2nd class postage stamp and send it in to our flunky the noble Lord Gordon McKie (c£230,000 per annum). That ought to do nicely.
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Dunger,

Doon Sooth 24/02/2008 10:35:08

Make sure ye land one of those haymakers next time versus the English... and not be seen!

The more the merrier, as long as yer no caught big fella.

Heid doon and pump.
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Toast,

24/02/2008 10:43:11
Nathan you are an undisiplined thug who should be kicked out of the squad until such time that you can control yourself and as for your coach defending you,lies damn lies.
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Aubrey W,

24/02/2008 10:52:00
To quote: I'm also looking forward to getting away from the Scotland scene for a week.

I can see that. It can't be fun for the coach or team leaking 30+ points every game, knowing that the only win will be against Italy, and blaming poor decisions and referees. Not that NH was doing more of that than anyone else; seems a nice bloke really. And I'm sure he would be replaced if there was an obvious replacement. Bit short there really.

Every team gets its share of the ball nowadays. Claims that individual decisions and bad luck altered the course of events are inventions of minds dedicated to conceal the lack of international talent, mainly, but not exclusively, in the backs. Not there is much that can be done about that. We will have to wait and see what the next generation of players offers. The best indicator is not at A-level but at under 21 level.

Meanwhile, Ireland look a championship winning side in patches and are likely to be too strong for the entertaining Welsh side, who clearly are enjoying playing as well as winning.
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Kenny A,

24/02/2008 11:10:57
Nathan Hines

Bad luck is not an excuse.

Being poor at your proffesion is not acceptable.

Wooden spoon time again I am afraid.

End Ex.
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forestry,

DUNS 24/02/2008 11:24:38
" and asked questions of ireland " yeah right!
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chandler-chaftit,

Edinburgh 24/02/2008 12:48:02
Up until these last 2 games I've always defended Nathan Hines as having had a lot of unwarranted yellow cards and have been a huge fan for the sort of massive work rate and passion he again put in yesterday. I still haven't stopped seething at O'Sullivan for the outrageous accusations last year, when it was obvious to anyone who replayed the incident in detail that it was John Hayes' midriff that smothered O'Gara's face. But the last swinging arm was one too far in post-1960's rugby. Regret or no regret, you deserve the consequences. Hand-bags or not, yellow cards and reversed panalties can swing results and sap the rest of the team. Even more humiliating to do it in front of a blinkered 70,000 people who only saw you and not John Hayes squashing O'Gara's face last year. Doesn't help Joe Public like me defending you as the genuinely innocent party in that one and many others.
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Bordererinengland,

24/02/2008 13:44:59
Agree that Hines actions were unacceptable...but his workrate is immense when he is fit. On balance Nathan I am afraid that you are in debit on this occasion.

Am I the only one who suspects something sinister in the Irish ruck and maul play? Just look at the number of times O'Callaghan and O'Connell when he came on) had Scots fighting to free themselves (eg Jacobson at least twice with O'Callaghan). Unfortunately it was Hamilton who suffered most with a broken leg after being held onto as a ruck engulfed him.

It's a few years since I last played but it was never like this previously in rucks.Something needs to be done as unfortunately you can no longer get away with giving the perpetrator a good "shoeing" which would,in the past,have stopped most of this!
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No 22,

Scotand 25/02/2008 00:03:48
Sorry, Nathan, but you've had your lot as far as I'm concerned. Your petulance has cost us dear, a real pro needs to control his temper an think of the team.

I coach primary school kids and if any of them had pulled either stunt that you did from the last 2 games I would have taken them straight off.

Have a look in the mirror and ask yourself whether you see a professional sportsman or a petulant brat.

Also ask yourself what sort of example you set for our youngsters. Wake up, realise the responsibility you carry to future genrations and get into the real world.
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Moop,

Ayrshire 25/02/2008 10:47:01
Get real, he gave away a penalty, big deal. I thought he played really well, terrific effort and much improved from the pack as a whole.
You can't have a guy in the side for his abrasive nature, then give out such a hard time for giving away a penalty. Sure it was a mistake, but it hardly cost us the game.
With the amount of ball we had & pretty good ball too, we should've won the game out the park, but we just went from side to side & back again. No cutting edge.
We all knew it, but we hoped that De Luca could bring the missing ingredient to the party. Not yet....

 

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