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Published Date: 13 May 2007
SEAN Connery has given his most incendiary ever interview on politics, branding Tony Blair an "a***hole" making his legacy from graves in Iraq and suggesting that First Minister Jack McConnell is frustrating democracy in Scotland.
In his first interview since the Holyrood election, Connery also calls on Scottish Secretary Douglas Alexander to resign over the voting fiasco, which saw almost 150,000 ballot papers spoiled.

The actor reveals he has been giving post-election advice to SNP leader and likely new First Minister Alex Salmond and suggests he has already become a roving ambassador for Scotland. But on the issue of a return to the land of his birth, Connery remains as enigmatic as ever.

Speaking from his home in the Bahamas, Connery described the conduct of the election as an "embarrassment".

Connery told Scotland on Sunday: "I think [Douglas] Alexander should resign because he was warned. Alexander is not resigning, he's not even apologising."

Referring to the decision to hold council and Parliament votes together, he added: "No other place would attempt to do the two on the same day. It's a real, horrendous mistake."

Connery said of the outcome, in which the SNP won by 47 seats to Labour's 46: "It was an amazing result considering the Prime Minister and Jack McConnell were up there, and all the tabloids on full blast. They had all the ammunition stacked against them, and they've come through, the SNP. The thing is that they [Labour] pushed for a fear element into it."

He added: "Everybody got blinded by the Union issue. It wasn't the Union issue. It was a change of government they wanted.

"What I think got the people going behind Alex Salmond and the SNP was that they really conducted an excellent campaign and they have come out with what they are trying to do. And this will determine the future of Scotland, regardless of a referendum [on independence]."

McConnell has let it be known that should the SNP fail to form a government he is waiting in the wings to try for another coalition with the Lib Dems.

Asked if McConnell was betraying democratic principles by not letting Salmond get on with it, Connery said: "This is it completely. If you were asking the will of the people now, that's exactly what they would want. They would say, 'Let them get in, we're at least on the right track'. If they [Labour] start with a sabotage situation like now they can't blame anybody but themselves."

Connery said that if anybody should be a Labour supporter "it should be me, with my background". He added: "The problem is that Labour has been too long in power. They are totally fossilised. For 50 years until the opening of this Parliament we had nothing but a Labour majority in Scotland, regardless of what happened in the rest of the UK."

On the issue of independence, Connery remains convinced a referendum can still take place with or without the support of the Lib Dems. He even suggests that three years of minority rule under the SNP might be enough to persuade Scots it is time to go it alone.

"When you get to the crossroads in 2010, they [the SNP] might not even need a referendum, it would be so obvious that they want to run alone. The issue is that I do not think the UK is a United Kingdom. I think it is not a democracy, it is not equal, that's the problem."

But the star acknowledges that the SNP is facing a new challenge as a result of the imminent change of leadership of the UK Labour party. "That's going to be the major problem," said Connery. "From a not particularly powerful base, Salmond dealing with Gordon Brown, who is out to set a much bigger stall after this a***hole Blair."

Connery referred to the massive controversy during the election campaign when Blair criticised Sir George Mathewson, former chairman of the Royal Bank of Scotland, after he backed Salmond for First Minister. Blair responded during a trip to Scotland by calling Mathewson "self indulgent".

Connery said: "How can somebody like a Blair come up and knock somebody like George Mathewson of the Royal Bank, with his success, for being deluded? How dare he say that of somebody from his position who's digging graves to make a legacy? That's the sort of person in Scotland he's knocking. And that can't taste good in the mouth of the Scots."

He then took a side swipe at the Lib Dems, saying: "They [the SNP] are obviously not going to be in bed with the Liberal Democrats. I mean they are so non-productive anyway. They are like some kind of hybrid. Now if the Liberal Democrats were really interested in the big picture of Scotland, they would get in and prove that they can work with a party like the SNP."

Connery predicted the SNP would win the election last month when he declared that Salmond was "the right man at the right time". He also hinted that he may return to live in his homeland if Scotland voted for independence.

Connery told Scotland on Sunday he had followed the election results on the internet throughout the night of May 3 and 4 and had spoken to Salmond since the outcome.

Asked what role he might play in the new Scotland, Connery replied: "For me it's to get the [Scottish] voice heard.

"Since Winnie Ewing at the beginning it's unequal. Her treatment by the MPs when she got to London was deplorable. And if you ask any businessman or any chief, if he had four divisions like Scotland, England, Ireland, Wales, what would he do? He would bring them all up to the best they could be competitively for the benefit of the big picture. Well, that's what it should be, that kind of equality. All this talk about borders with guns and all that is s****, you know, absolute panic s****. We are talking about our people who want an equal deal."

Connery agreed he might become a roving, cultural ambassador for Scotland but he also made a plea for fairness towards the SNP, particularly from the media.

"The day we got the Parliament opened, I was asked, leaving the building, what did I think? I said it will be turmoil. Until we get a media which is sympathetic to a better and bigger picture of Scotland it won't work. And it's sadly come true.

"If we get a fair innings and everybody does work, there's a real genuine opportunity."

Connery's relationship with Labour has veered from conciliatory to outright hostile. He lent his support to the devolution referendum in 1997, standing alongside Blair, Donald Dewar and Salmond in urging Scots to vote 'yes'. But there was controversy after Dewar vetoed Connery's knighthood in December 1997. At the time, the veteran actor said he was "deeply disappointed but strangely not angry or greatly surprised". He was eventually made a knight in 2000.

Connery has worked alongside McConnell as well, especially during the annual Tartan Week celebrations in New York. However, this relationship was also strained after sources close to the First Minister described him as a "falling star".

An SNP spokesman said: "The difference between Alex Salmond and Tony Blair was that while Alex Salmond wanted to celebrate and build on Scottish success, Blair came north and attacked it. As for Sir Sean's points about Douglas Alexander and the causes of the election problems, Alex Salmond has already said that he will commission an independent inquiry into the voting fiasco if elected First Minister."

No one was available for comment from Scottish Labour.

I'll be in Scotland when weather improves, says Connery


BP: It was reported that you are thinking of moving back to Scotland or buying a house - is that right?

SC: That very first time I was supposed to have looked at houses is one of these rumours. It's not true.

BP: You are not actively looking for somewhere in Scotland just now?

SC: No, no. I don't feel the need. Travelling in the world today is a pain in the a***.

BP: Do you have any plans to come to Scotland in the near future? Is there anything that will bring you here?

SC: Well, I'm working on the Glasgow animation thing I'm doing, and I'm still doing this book on the history with Murray Grigor. In fact I'm doing quite a few things.

BP: So when will you next be in Scotland?

SC: When the weather improves.

BP: There is no political initiative to bring you here in the coming weeks?

SC: No, no, I won't figure in their plans, I don't think. They have got enough on their plate.

BP: Are you going to do Indiana Jones (left) 4?

SC: I'm still talking with them. I've got their script and they're still working on it.

BP: Can you tell me anything about the story? I believe it might shoot in the Bahamas?

SC: Is it? I don't know.

BP: Can you tell me what Henry Jones does?

SC: No, I can't. It's all secrecy. You know they're paranoid about it.

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1

Bill, Dunblane,

13/05/2007 00:17:08

Tell it like it is Sean! - Good on yer!

2

www.scottwebb.co.uk..,

13/05/2007 00:26:32

What wonderful insight :)

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buzzer,

13/05/2007 00:31:35

Superb Sean. The arrogance of Blair and the incompetence of Alexander are what most of us are already thinking. In four years time the SNP will have shown that they were muvh better with the economy of Scotland than Labour ever were and kill them stone dead as a force in Scottish politics.

4

AJ fae Fife,

Fife 13/05/2007 00:32:35

I don't think Sean was too far off about Blair!!!

5

Faye,

Scotland. 13/05/2007 00:34:10

What is Blair's legacy? Iraq and 66k people plus dead?

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AJ fae Fife,

Fife 13/05/2007 00:57:50

Jock MacSprog,

Sean is the most famous Scotsman alive and his first wife made the allegation up!!!

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Faye,

Scotland. 13/05/2007 00:58:15

Disgraceful Jock MacSprog. It is up to our government to make sure the rules are such that folks can't escape off to Monaco, Switzerland or wherever. You can't blame the moneyed for taking advantage of the rules. Its the rules that need to be changed.

As for the wife beating, we'll do you believe everything you are fed. Did you witness the wife beating so that you can say what you say?

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Bill, Dunblane,

13/05/2007 01:14:30

6 - Et tu MacSprog?

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kendomacaroonbar,

Scotland 13/05/2007 01:15:52

MacSprog, your ignorance is only surpassed by your offensive obnoxiousness. I doubt you will ever learn the difference between argument and abuse.

12

Gaia,

13/05/2007 01:21:50

Jock MacSprog, It is you that is the bitter fool..... a very jealous bitter fool.!!

13

Guga,

Rockall 13/05/2007 01:24:28

I agree with every word that Sean Connery says.

As for obnoxious people like #6, he is beneath contempt.

14

Guga,

Rockall 13/05/2007 01:25:36

Good grief, nearly three weeks after making a joke about Cherry Bliar, I am still being "moderated". Aren't you people carrying your vendetta just a little too far?

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Ben Chambers,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 01:37:52

Paradoxically, I agree with pretty much everything the man says....I just wish he would say from a house in Scotland. We need Scots like him with energy, spirit, belief in our country and its capabilities...We need them here in Scotland contributing.

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Jim A,

13/05/2007 01:42:17

If old 007 wants to live in the Bahamas then that's up to him. Lets face it, given a choice where would anybody rather spend a Scottish winter, Auld Reekie or the Bahamas. Fact that he lives there doesn't make him any less a Scotsman. You can take the man out of Scotland but you can't take Scotland out of the man.

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Tennscot,

Tenn., 13/05/2007 02:35:41

Sean Has done more for Scotland in many ways,at home and abroad than you realize McSprog. I imagine much more than you could imagine. So I would say to the readers....consider the source, then treat it with the contempt it deserves.

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Saltire,

China 13/05/2007 02:43:04

At least Connery adds his support to the SNP and the future of Scotland. He is most useful to Scotland by promoting Scotland in the outside world.

What do the Lib-Dems do? They have let Scotland down and seem more intent on undermining the people's choice. Liberal-Democrats???? What is democratic about their rejecting the election results in favour of their own self promotion.

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John Douglas,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 03:01:13

You ask comments to be made without swearing, yet you publish our "so called Scottish Ambassador's" (Sean Connery) thoughts full of foul language.
For those of us who have run ins with him in one of the 3 Golf Clubs he was asked to leave in Spain, we know he is No Ambassador but an aggressive s***.
His expletives in the interview are quite modest compared with normal life.
We dont need his advice.
Why is he called 007, because he has visited Scotland 7 times!

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John Douglas,

John Douglas 13/05/2007 03:02:39

You ask comments to be made without swearing, yet you publish our "so called Scottish Ambassador's" (Sean Connery) thoughts full of foul language.
For those of us who have run ins with him in one of the 3 Golf Clubs he was asked to leave in Spain, we know he is No Ambassador but an aggressive arrogant man.
His expletives in the interview are quite modest compared with normal life.
We dont need his advice.
Why is he called 007, because he has visited Scotland 7 times

21

iRoy,

13/05/2007 03:42:56

Every citizen who cast a vote in Scotland has the right to question the election.

22

W Smith,

Middle East 13/05/2007 04:22:58

His best performance yet!

Oscar for Sir Sean, pretending to be a socialist while living like an upper middle class English Tory (except the English Tories pay more in tax).

His brand of socialism can function without taxation - a brilliant concept! Sir Sean should be lecturing at the London School of Economics!

BTW
How is his Gordonstoun educated son Jason doing these days? Living in a council house somewhere in Edinburgh then - eh?

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Dekester,

Canada's westcoast 13/05/2007 04:50:38

Sir Sean really is an interesting man. What a life he has enjoyed, and the things he has no doubt seen.

#13, and other detractors, can you honestly say that his description of Scottish politics, and of Tony Blair are inaccurate.

He speaks his mind, he enjoys great respect around the world. He can live anywhere he wants.

Yet we Scots are fortunate enough that he still cares passionately about the land of his birth. He does not appear to have forgotten his roots.

10 out of 10..thank Sir Sean.

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Dr Blockbuster aka Vince,

Dunbar 13/05/2007 05:06:30

Dr Blockbuster says good story Brian ... and some interesting insight into Indiana 4 that I've now told to my commanderbond colleagues. Thanks.

The great characteristic about Sir Sean is that he is not afraid to make direct comments, pc or not, and the recipients just have to listen !!!!! :roflmAo: (look it up then)


("what WILL Dr Blockbuster be up to next?")

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NDC,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 05:45:45

Sean is used to 'telling it like it is':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FgMLROTqJ0

Mmmm....

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Maisie,

13/05/2007 06:11:28

6. Jock MacSprog

Disgusting post. And what have you done with your life Jock?

27. Rulesbutnotrulers

Immature rant. The man happens to be famous, and that means when he talks, his voice is heard. Unlike the majority of us in Scotland who are ignored, if only our voices were listed to. If he has the ear of the press, then I for one don't mind him speaking on my behalf as our opinions match.

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donald,

weegieland 13/05/2007 06:19:14

Still droning on about Sean in exile, whilst saying nothing about the rich Brit tax dodgers. He will come home - to an Independent Scotland.

One charge that cannot be laid at Labour's Empire Loyalists is originality.

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Phil1,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 06:43:09

It is strange that people seem to be only able to abuse other people just because they disagree with their politics.

It is a sad reflection on a violent society that personal abuse seems to be the automatic response to differences of opinion.

SNP did get the most MSPs for a single party - the majority of voters though did vote for the Parties that support the Union.

There is no real contradiction here - as in UK in 1997 there was a desire for a change in the way Scotland has been governed and Labour had certainly become unpopular.

SNP deserve a chance to see if they can do better than Labour and form a minority government.

Perhaps now in Scotland we will get mature co-operative government that listens to the people and doesn't just tell them what to do?

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Gimbal,

South of Cameron Toll 13/05/2007 06:43:10

Rather think that the foul language is a fall back to Sean's Fountainbridge roots. that would be before he got his break as a model in South Pacific. Sean you have built a wonderful life for yourself and you are entitled to live where you want to. But you are not entitled to denigrate polititians or in fact anybody trying, perhaps not up to your standards but trying, and let me remind you, who were voted in by the majority of people in this country at the last election. If there is somethings our country can do without it is pontificating, foulmouthed, overblown, ex Scots who wont even live in their ex country because they dont want to pay TAX like all we other poor P.A.Y.E people, why should we regard anything you say. Come and live here and get stuck in and help make Scotland great, but dont hide overseas and snipe at genuine tryers, if you can do better show us.

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John McLxxx,

Scotland 13/05/2007 06:44:37

The relationship between Sean Connery and the SNP confuses me. They seem very keen to listen to and be concerned about an exile who chooses to live outwith Scotland.

If independence were to come about, the London parliment would lose 50+ Labour/SNP/Liberal MPs who are up against the Conservatives. WIthout these England would be exposed to a pretty right wing government.

I would I have thought that the SNP would be just as interested in the Scots who may be stuck in England and could suffer under these policies.

For example, in my family I have a sibling who has a child who has a serious medical condition. All her family consider themselves Scottish and would love to get back to Scotland but can't. My relative desperately needs a strong well funded NHS. With the Scottish MPs gone this is less likely. My Scottish family in England need and want Scotland to be part of the UK so they have a decent NHS.


Surely SNP supporters are more interested in the well being and opinions of Scots stuck in England than someone who chooses to and can afford to chose where he lives and then drones on about being Scottish.

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bill1,

13/05/2007 06:46:14

Blair’s legacy: Militarism abroad, social devastation at home

This is what the socialists who voted him in say:

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/may2007/blai-m11.shtml

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Fayneant,

NZ 13/05/2007 06:47:28

Even when he's dead Sean C will never come back to Scotland - do you really believe he stays away because we are still in the Union? Grow up, people - time to look after your own country! The election was a shambles - the result leaves the country ham strung and undecided. I once fondly hoped that autonomy would allow the inventive and resourceful Scots to show the rest of the world how the English were holding us back. Fat chance of that! We look about as cutting edge and inspirational as San Marino! I'm damned sure SC knows that and he's laughing into his umbrella drink at all those numpties that hang on his every word....

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bill1,

13/05/2007 06:49:42

32. John McLxxx, Scotland

If independence were to come about ......England would be exposed to a pretty right wing government.

I don't think there could be a more right wing government than the one we have now.

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Citylocal Fife,

Citylocal Fife News Room 13/05/2007 06:50:25

I of vourse agree with the sentiment - but he's rather late in saying it......

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Steve Evans,

Malta 13/05/2007 07:12:03

First Minister= Sean Connery?

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Swilly Tisher,

Loch Maree 13/05/2007 07:15:47

Sir Sean , you speak for 99 per cent of Scots - at home and abroad.

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PDdod,

peterhead 13/05/2007 07:22:50

It is Sean Connery who the farce-hole and one of the biggest around. He cannot stay in Scotland for more than 90 days lest he is force into the tax system.
Those who put such great importance in the opinions such make- believe Hollywood people are easily deluded by the fairy stories of the silver screen
If the man had any compassion for this country he would not withdraw to tax exile status and pay his whack like every other true Scot. He is a parasite who took a knighthood from the Queen whilst preaching home rule for Scotland -A hypocrit, a big head and once again a gigiantic sized farcehole may he wallow in his own tax free haven with the ever heavy impungent stink of betrayal

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John McLxxx,

Scotland 13/05/2007 07:22:57

bill1
no matter what you think of this government there is no way that, in its totality, you could describe as being right wing.

That is nonsense.

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scottishcoffindodgerno1,

Edinburgh we are in it to win it 13/05/2007 07:24:43

#21,what are you trying to say.That living in a council house is some kind of stigma.You are the blot on the landscape.SNP SNP SNP

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Balikpapan Bob,

Indonesia 13/05/2007 07:42:30

Tam is very opinionated, but like me, he chooses to be an expat Jock and rightly has no vote. He is lucky that his fame allows him the soapbox. Isn't it funny though that he chooses to act the cantankerous old B, that we know actually is. No growing auld gracefully here then? Such a shame for our favourate auld son. Plus just before he pops his clogs, Daniel Craig steals his mantle of "Best Bond." Oh dear...

41

Transparent?,

Scotland 13/05/2007 07:43:07

Well, Well, so 'God' has entered the scene after the battle is over, so he thinks. Now we know who will be running Scotland - a brick-layer who talks through his teeth.

Salmond has yet to be crowned First Minister and 'Humphrey Bogart' thinks it's all over. The SNP are about to be disgraced, humiliated and on their way out. Neither Connery nor Salmond can see it coming.

Sometimes it's better to shut-up and make people think you are ignorant, Mr Connery, than to open your mouth and confirm it.

42

Calum Crubag,

13/05/2007 07:49:05

Well said Sean. If Labour/Tories can have foreign based rich men funding them, why can't the Scots? It's the end of Labour in Scotland. Good riddance.

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OscarMacApfel,

Dumbfreaks and Galloway 13/05/2007 07:57:31

1. Nice to see Brian Pendreigh writing about a living film star for a change. It looked for a while that he was after the obituarist royal post.

2. Connery is the most famous living Scotsman, to all his detractors name one you think more universally known.

3. Do you seriously think he chased up the media desperate to tell them that he thinks Alexander should resign and Blairs an arsehole? From previous experience getting a comment from Connery is incredibly difficult and takes weeks of toadying to management, personal staff and finally the man himself.

4. If he still supported Labour, do you think the opposition would be referring to him as a 'falling star'?

5. To those offended by his foul language. Phuqueorf.

44

Cadgers,

13/05/2007 08:01:03

#28 Maisie, well said. As well as our voices not being listened to it seems our votes are being ignored too.

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Cas,

The Debatable Lands 13/05/2007 08:07:19

It says much for the maturity of politics and philosophy in Scotland that this story actually prompts any debate at all. Hume and his Enlightenment contemporaries would be ashamed of us. What's the opposite of an Enlightenment? I think we're in the middle of whatever it's called. But I'm just a mother who read a few history books instead of going to the cinema to see Mr Connery so you can discount my views.

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lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 08:11:41

44. ain't that the truth.

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Big Ron,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 08:14:33

Can anyone tell me if the SNP's proposal to replace the council tax with a local income tax of 3% has a cap? I can't see it on the SNP's election manifesto. Unless there is a cap at say £80,000 of household earnings, a 3% local income tax would surely be a huge disincentive for Connery and many other high earning Scots to live here.

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lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 08:23:18

32. If scotland were to get independence,england would save 23 billion pounds, I think we can run a pretty good health service on that.

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Borderman,

Borders 13/05/2007 08:34:23

#46 "Connery is the most famous living Scotsman, to all his detractors name one you think more universally known."

You're right. Sad, isn't it?

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OscarMacApfel,

Dumbfreaks and Galloway 13/05/2007 08:48:46

Borderman

I'd prefer a nobel winner, an epoch changing scientist, engineer, philosopher, sportsman, novelist, explorer, hero/ine.

Instead for the past forty years all our political masters have believed that all we care about is celebrity, and its tertiary spin offs.

Connery is one voice. He's paid his dues, the money he paid in taxes when he was taxed at 90% of his earnings is probably more than any of us will pay in a lifetime. You either listen to him in agreement or not.

Why is his support for the SNP so reviled and his past indiscretions dragged up when 'celebrity' Labour supporters Brian Cox, Robbie Coltrane or Richard Wilson receive none of the vitriol. Each one of them has massive skeletons in the cupboard, yet our compliant press don't rake over their past or present.

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Bermuda Bie,

Bermuda 13/05/2007 08:49:07

Nice one McSprog! The Sad Numpty People don't like the truth! Ignore them - within four years they'll be gone again!

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lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 08:53:26

53.sorry, it's true every man,woman,and child in scotland has 20% more spent on them than any one else in the uk.

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bill1,

13/05/2007 08:55:37

40. John McLxxx, Scotland

"no matter what you think of this government there is no way that, in its totality, you could describe as being right wing. That is nonsense."

Just google 'blair fascist' and see what you come up with.

This government is well to the right of Thatcher's.

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Brisbane Scot,

13/05/2007 08:57:06

Sean Connery expressed the frustration that many Scots are feeling.

After an election win of 20 seats in parliament and massive wins in local councils,which broke the Labour stranglehold in Scotland.

The Anglified Media with exception to the Herald,fed misinformation and propaganda to the Scottish Nation.

The Anglified Scottish establishment of left and right joined to fight against a party that had legitimate aspirations.

Stooges and 5th columnist were coming out of the sewers and anyone from a Business, Education and Social background who stood up and voice a Scottish opinion was vilified by all.

Thank Christ, Sean has expressed the bitterness and sadness that resulted out of the first phase of the Scottish Peoples journey to complete Independance. If anyone would care to look at statements made by Sean at the start of the election you will find that he paid 500,000 pounds payment to the tax bloodsuckers last financial year. He continues to run charities for young Scots in the area's of Education and trips to other countries to realise what lifestyle and opportunities they have missed out on.

Personally I will be returning to Scotland but make no mistake the ex-pats loyalty and love for their homeland never wains. The Scots of the world will be an instant established group who will do whatever they can to promote the Scottish Homeland. The only thing that restrict's a massive step forward for Scotland is the task of enlightening Scots that they do not need the cap'n'hand attitude to anyone anymore.

Remember Joke Mc telling the people of Scotland that the condition of his constituency was in his opinion a disgrace. Well Joke what have you been doing all these years, its your disgrace. YOU COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING AS BOTH THEIR MSP AND FIRST MINISTER.

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Pilrig,

Livingston 13/05/2007 08:57:34

40 - Thatcher said that her greatest creation was New labour, which perhaps explains the backing of Blair and Nu Lab by the Murdoch media.

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bill1,

13/05/2007 08:58:00

57. lia, north-east england

"53.sorry, it's true every man,woman,and child in scotland has 20% more spent on them than any one else in the uk."

And well over 20% more than what is spent on the North East of England.

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morris,

Dun Edidean Alba 13/05/2007 08:59:21

This guy has made more money than the rest of Hollywood put together,and is recognised in every country in the world. The best part is he detests the ego trip that is often the celebrity, and still feels perfectly at home having a wee dram in the Port Hamilton pub in Fountainbridge.
Even Roger Moore ,(who was no slouch himself) said he was in awe of the man. When he enters the room everybody just stops what they are doing,be it king or queen or popper,and the women young enough to be his granddaughter still think the old yins got it!Hes over 80 and women still drool . Now if thats not staying power, what is ?
I can see why some men would hate him,(Jealousy)and why women would love him.
In the case of labour party supporters its just plain ignorance,he rises above the gravy train existence they are handcuffed to,which is why they support the Labour Party presumably.They hope to cash in also but at our expense. This guy did it all himself and did not kow tow to anybody,very much the opposite in fact,he told them all what a bunch of spare parts they really are.
Half of Scotland will mourn his passing one day,and I dont just mean the women.Who else could claim that?

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bill1,

13/05/2007 08:59:58

61. Pilrig, Livingston

"40 - Thatcher said that her greatest creation was New labour, which perhaps explains the backing of Blair and Nu Lab by the Murdoch media."

Like I said earlier, Bliar's right wing government.

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lisa,

perth 13/05/2007 09:08:47

Why do we give so much space to a tired former milkman living abroad who is best known for his acting and his bad attitute towards violence against women.

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stoatsnest,

Ham 13/05/2007 09:10:30

Sean Connery should perhaps stand for President of tha Bahamas. Scotland? He doesn't live there.
You might as well have one of those people whose ancestors emigrated hundreds of years ago.

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Borderman,

Borders 13/05/2007 09:13:07

#54

I agree. I wasn't knocking Sean Connery. He's entitled to say what he likes. It's us who are sad by giving importance to these celebrities' opinions.

But Sean Connery never appeard in Eastenders or Coronation Street, so I guess he can't be that good. ;-)

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morris,

Dun Eidean Alba 13/05/2007 09:14:53

53

You miss the point entirely .Sorry.The comparison is between what Scotland gives to Westminster and what she gets back.Thats what we would retain as an independent country,of course. That comparison when properly calculated is a totally different story.The regional spending comparisons of the United Kingdom have no relevance and certainly not when we are independent and no longer contributing into Westminster.Yes we would lose this money being paid from Westminster,but we never handed any over in the first place. The Barnett formula is useful within the United Kingdom yes, but we are talking about being a separate country,so it has even less relevance than the little it had to begin with.
This has been deliberately dangled in front of us to confuse the issue.Your argument is with Westminster and other English regions all of whom are subsidised from Scotland and this is why London government does not want us to leave.They lied on both sides of the border.
We are wakening up to reality here. You will find out the truth when we leave unfortunately.

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Big Ron,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 09:16:13

How can anyone call Blair/New Labour right wing when there has been so much wealth re-distribution? The size of the public sector in this country is a disgrace, particularly in the West.

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Advance Alba,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 09:20:08

Sir Sean only said what most Scots believe in their hearts. Good for him, he does his people proud. This is a time when we who work for a Free and Independent Scotland have another hill to climb on our way to obtaining it. It is a time to stand together and support those we elected to lead the project. There are many battles ahead - a hostile media, a venal opposition, and a belligerent Westminster under Brown, fighting for his political life. It will be a trial, and a long one, but if we stand true to our principles, support our leaders and work to make our dreams come true, we shall not fail. And in good time, we will be free.

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Torchwood,

Aberdeen 13/05/2007 09:21:29

What a load of hypocritical bilge from Connery. Just as bad as the hot air coming from Salmond

Doesn't pay his taxes.

Won't live in Scotland.

Doesn't like the weather - a fair weather friend.

And does his best to ruin the Scottish whisky industry by appearing in ads for Japanese Suntory brand.

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Tax haven,

13/05/2007 09:24:01

Fameocracy?

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Brisbane Scot,

13/05/2007 09:25:42

There is no doubt that in direct payments Scotland does get slightly more than England in payments.

However and I am not attacking you LIA because you are entitled to your view on any stage. What I would ask you to consider is that according to government figures, that dont include all income from oil which is hidden through careful bookeeping,Scotland generates in excess of 40 Billion Pounds in taxes of most kind, which is past on to the UK treasury. Scotland receives 12 Billion Pounds back in payments from the UK Treasury. Scotland also provides SONS and DAUGHTERS for the illegal war in IRAQ which in my opinion makes being part of a union under those conditions a bit one sided.

You guys in the mid lands and north of England get fed the same sh#*e through the media as the rest of us. Have a look round and compare the amount of investment in services and amenities you guys get compare to South of the Watford Gap.

SNP supporters dont hate the English People. SNP supporters would never bear a grudge against you guys and would welcome you to come live in our country as New Scottish people. We just want to run our own race and have real Scottish people make decisions for all Scottish people. Dont think that is to much to ask for.

The UK is a failed system that does nothing for its people. It is run by people with big snouts keeping the rest away. We as the UK dont need to pretend we are some form of international player, Its time for you English to take charge of your turf so that you guys in the North get your share. Have English People put the needs of All English People first.

When that all happens we can come visit, and you guys can come visit us in a relaxed mood of friends.

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bill1,

13/05/2007 09:35:35

74. Brisbane Scot

I've already got my name down for New Scottish. I dislike the Westminster lot more than you do.

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lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 09:39:49

68.LOL, HAVE YOU BEEN ON HAPPY JUICE THIS MORNING, SCOTLAND HAS NEVER SUBSIDISED ANYTHING IN IT'S LIFE. I think the scottish people have been fed a load of spin!!

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Nittenman,

13/05/2007 09:40:06

"Sean lives abroad and manages to avoid paying taxes to a government in England/London, money which are kept in England/London for the benefit of England/London."

Absolute classic - perhaps I could paraphrase this for you.

Sean lives abroad to avoid paying taxes, he want pay his share to support 'his country'.

Sick fed up of people from all over the world bumping there gums about Scotland, you left ,I accept that, frankly you should now mind your own business.

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happyhibbie,

Inch, Edinburgh 13/05/2007 09:47:15

Sir Tatty Scone, although right about Blair, represents the worst form of nazionalism, and if the SNP don't want to get routed at the next elections they should distance themselves from that chauvinistic, jingoistic pain in the nether regions.

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Alex, Young Laird de Drumchapel,

Madrid 13/05/2007 09:49:27

OPINIONS & THE PRESS

Eh, the journalist called him, The Scotsman must have been very interested in his opinion. Yet we have all these creepy-crawlies on here telling him not to stick his nose in? As ever with New Labour, I smell a hidden agenda. Ofcourse Brian Pendreigh was setting him up by asking questions about his domicility. Brain knows he can depend on his New Labour malcontents to indulge in character assassination. The internet does allow protection for these cowards.

Bang on Big Tam, Alexander should resign. Never mind Alex Salmond will be instigating a judicial inquiry next week. Let's flush out the little weasel. And thank you for expressing your views on Blair, that is Scotland's voice.

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Wolfie,

Ellon 13/05/2007 09:50:38

Wo! slow down everyone.

Sir Sean, get to the back of the queue, we all thought McConnell was an a***hole probalbly before you!

You could see it by his pre-election tactics, scaremongerin and negative comments; and now, suprisingly-not, he's still at it. Is this the man-the party, Scotland want, I think not. No sense of grace, nor much else.

I'm surprised the 'no-alls' haven't realised, all the SNP are proposing is a referendum, to me that suggests we would all have a say to either stay in the union or go it alone, and even then, it would still mean a big majority before any progress could be made.

Question, whats Labour, Blair/Brown, McConnell et al, all scared of - 'the will of the People!' (Makes you wonder.)

It suggests to me that they have no faith in the people of Scotland.

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Ian G,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 09:52:17

When are we going to stop treating this man Brian Cox as if he really is something important.

He is an old actor who is a Hollywood star. He doesn't live here or even own a property here but he feels the need to comment on this country frequently. He "chooses" not to live here.

The Labour party need to dump this interfering old man and stand on their own feet. Would do them far more good.
Wilson an actor who turned against his own country who is he to tell us how to vote?

Yeah two can play at that game.
Sean Connery tell em son.
When all they can give to an argument is abuse it means your winning.

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lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 09:59:46

74.thank you for the sentiment, BUT,we have managed perfectly well for 300 years,what we need is people of all creeds in the uk to work together, united we stand divided we fall.

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Roamer,

Belgrade 13/05/2007 10:03:29

The a******* here is Connery. The man may be a film star but he is also an arrogant idiot, who talks a good fight about Scotland and will do nothing about it, especially return to live permanently.
I agree we need a better government but none of the current Scottish lot, SNP or whoever, could run a p*** up in a brewery. The people who are capable wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. Given the idiocy of the Scottish electorate who can blame them. If they ever vote for independence I will do a Connery and leave for good, along with all the major companies.

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Firozali A.Mulla MBA PhD,

Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania 13/05/2007 10:05:36

War path: Sir Sean has unleashed a venomous attack on Blair, branding the Iraq war his legacy

Bond. My name is James Bond:
Boy the Rock shakes from the far but splashing the waves in the ripple effect. Never have I heard the actor talking the way Sir Sean has said. Sir, I lift my hat to you. All you state is correct. It is not the politics it is not the economy. UK needs new Government.
It was Great Britain. Now it is Small Britain.
So the patches here and there make the holes bigger in the end. What Sean says is correct. I had been shouting in this paper for months. The Iraq war aside the friendship with Bush was wrong very wrong. It led Blaire to WMD and now out of his office. Brown is a sorry figure for now. He when the Iraq war was spoken of has a little whisper a mouse could not hear. He did not say anything. Robin Cook said resigned and died for Britain. He is hero. Brown is coward and has to play new games in new board. Read this. Tony Blair meets French president-elect Nicolas Sarkozy
25 Hours,48 minutes Ago
Sarkozy said he would like to be inspired by a model of "pragmatism" from Blair who knew "modernize his country" and secure his country "the complete employment."
This amazes me. Mr. Blaire had to resign because of his polices in the farced war, WMD and the employments with the ministry of home affair, Mr. Reid.
Do you expect to get the new French president any new ideas or the ripped off the salvaged hardly workable ideas?
Thank you. Blaire has failed England badly. Need more. He sold the radar to Tanzania (his government for a hefty sum that was hiked up and Tanzania is bankrupt) and then Brown comes to donate some money for the schools.
WE WANT TANZAIANS TO HAVE EDUCATION. Sir. We need bread first. No bread no nourishment and we cannot study. This is the policy the British Council has adopted. Closed the library and opened the English classes and management form.

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lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 10:08:25

71, you are free, stop being so melodramatic.

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Pilrig,

Livingston 13/05/2007 10:08:57

Big Ron#70 - You only need to see how Bambi is feted by the neo-cons and the right in the States (and in the Scotsman postings).

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happyhibbie,

Inch, Edinburgh 13/05/2007 10:11:16

Intimate contact could be made with Connery's brain by administering a shwift boot up the arsh.

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Maisie,

13/05/2007 10:12:08

83. lia

Do you live in Scotland lia? How do you know we have managed perfectly well for 300 years? You can only see it from your point of view, the fact is there has been opposition to being part of the 'union' for 300 years, do you think if it was that great there would be opposition still?

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Alf K.,

Falkirk 13/05/2007 10:12:42

I get totally p*****d off with people who are so patriotic but won`t pay their dues to the the Scottish nation even having a home in Scotland and paying their council tax would help. All mouth and trousers.

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Pilrig,

Livingston 13/05/2007 10:12:52

84 - maybe some of us can have a whip-round to buy you a one-way ticket to anywhere from Scotland ?

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Ruskie,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 10:14:41

This is a load of old crap. Sean Connery pontificates whilst he suns himself in Barbados. He ain't coming back to Scotland because he loves his tax haven too much. Get lost Connery we do not need you or your idiotic comments.

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PDdod,

peterhead 13/05/2007 10:19:26

Labour right wing? - Nonsense, Thatcher ditched the Wages Council -Labour introduced the Minimum Wage now nearing £6 per hour
Thatcher ditched union membership at GSHQ -Labour reinstated membership
Labour intruduced the £200 per couple heating allowance. The Tories voted against such a move
Pension Credit paid to 5ml senior citizens. The Tax Credit introduced to help the low paid. Help for single parents. All of these measures were spurned by the 'nasty party'
Here's a few more
1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s
2. Low mortgage rates
3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.35
4. Record police numbers in England, Scotland and Wales
5. Cut overall crime by 35 per cent
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools
7. Best-ever primary school results
8. Funding for every pupil in England to double by 2008
9. Employment is at its highest level ever
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries
11. 85,000 more nurses
12. 32,000 more doctors
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament
15. Devolved power to Welsh Assembly
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice
18. Gift aid was worth £625 million to charities last year
19. Restored city-wide government to London
20. Record number of students in higher education
21. Child benefit up 25 per cent since 1997
22. Created Sure Start to help children from low income households
23. Introduced the Disability Rights Commission
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & extra £100 for over-80s
25. On course to exceed the Kyoto target to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 2010
26. Negotiated the historic Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland
27. Over 30,000 more teachers in En

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Dk,

Brxbrn 13/05/2007 10:21:50

Ther is so much jealousy show on these e-mails.
About these "Scots" grew up which one of us would not like to live in the sun most of the year

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Maisie,

13/05/2007 10:24:00

I wonder if the Irish had conversations like this before going it alone? Did they knock their own country, did they prefer to play it safe under rule from westminster? Did they have no faith in themselves and believe they were to stupid to run their own affairs? Did they knock their own countryment who lived abroad? Did they despise their own people and was the limit of their support for Westminster rule only insulting their countryment who wanted self rule?

I wonder.

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Donald Dubh,

Glasgow 13/05/2007 10:26:06

Oh dear, and this is the man the SNP consider to be a suitable candidate for Scotland's Ambassador at Large?
His laughable attack does nothing but make him a laughing stock and does enormous discredit to Scotland. I can only assume that he is tired and emotional and can't come to terms with the fact that less than 25% of Scots want independence.

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lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 10:27:25

83. no i don't live in scotland, but my daughters fiance does, an d my best friend of 30 years, so i am up there on a regular basis, scotland is no worse than the n.e of england.

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Tony Cameron,

Perthshire 13/05/2007 10:27:36

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FgMLROTqJ0

The idea that our putative FM is taking advice from someone expressing those sort of sentiments is really quite shocking. Makes you wonder about Alex's judgment. If one of Tony's cronies expressed similar sentiments there would be a lot more said about it.

Shocking.

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Tax haven,

13/05/2007 10:27:49

Why is it that celebrities think that their voice is so important? Vote SNP because Sean Connery says so, vote Labour because Brian Cox says so, vote BNP because Jade Goody says so?

These are people with no more political and economic know how than any ordinary member of the public. These people are not leaders of industry or political "heavyweights." Why should we listen to them their opinion should carriy no more weight than any other member of the public.

These people got where they are by pretending to be someone else (although Sean will always be Sean even when he plays an Egyptian). These people are not successful by helping build an economy and adding values to a nation's GDP.

People should not be fooled by celebrities and it is sad that political parties will wheel these people out as if to give their party's policies a boost?

The parties should put front and centre people like Sir George Mathewson and ask him to explain why Scotland would be better off under the SNP or ask Michelle Mone to explain her reasons that she'd take herself and her bras to England if Scotland became independant.

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Dairy Dan,

wensleydale 13/05/2007 10:28:12

Shir Shaun shtarted out as a milkman. He became a cheesy actor, graduating to more cultured roles as he matured. Now he hash ashpirations to be a big cheese as a political commentator. Am I the only one who shees a shecret agenda here?

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lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 10:29:37

sorry, meant 89.

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Maisie,

13/05/2007 10:29:50

97. lia

Then you don't know what it is like to be run by a foreign country lia.

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Jardine,

13/05/2007 10:33:53

Tell me, Mish Moneypenny, why should we be consherned what a tax-exile pensioner who has not lived in Shcotland for many yearsh thinksh about the current shtate of affairsh here?

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Bien E. Bien,

13/05/2007 10:34:55

Best ambassador that the SNP can find is a man who prefers not to live in the country, choosing instead to live in a country with a personal income tax rate of, er, zero.

Perhaps Sean Connery will live in Scotland again one day soon. Perhaps if Scotland achieves independence, the SNP will set a personal income tax rate of zero for all residents. Or perhaps not.

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Dairy Dan,

wensleydale 13/05/2007 10:35:15

Shorry - that should have been "Shir Shean", of courshe...
I wash nibbling on a shlice of Shtilton and my digit shlipped...
Cheese bored anyone?

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A Scottish Soldier hahaha,

Dunedin 13/05/2007 10:35:47

I was talking to MY old man the other day and as a lifelong Labour supporter and permanent resident of Scotland (who pays his council tax etc so has a right to say these things) he had the same sentiments as Sean. Id prefer to see his words in a sunday paper however rather than the heat exhausted rantings of an ex-scot.

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Pilrig,

Livingston 13/05/2007 10:37:51

95 - If you think Nu Lab is left-wing far be it from me to disabuse you. Just that thanks to the next PM dipping into £5 billion worth of pension savings. Me and other ingrate proles will have to work beyond 65.
All together now ;
"Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We'll keeep the Red Flag flying here."

oops, forgot that song became passe under Bambi !

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Dairy Dan,

wenshleydale 13/05/2007 10:43:28

Shome old goat's cheese sherved with shour grapes, perhapsh?
Or a crowdie and banana shmoothie?

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roy jasper,

Surrey 13/05/2007 10:43:37

Connery could make a typical modern politician. He sucks as he has always sucked: literally and metaphorically. Scottish independence would be more grist for politicians and 'celebrities'; no benefits for humble citizens, but overall greater taxation. The Scotsman's disenchantment with British government is a reflection of the Englishman's disenchanment with the British government. Wilson merited respect, if disapproval. That cannot be said of recent leading politicians. Where is Connery's chivalry meritting knighthood? Selfinterest and egotism is hardly chivalrous!

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The laird.,

from leadhills 13/05/2007 10:56:46

good luck sean,
proud scotsman indeed there,s no doubt that these unionist will have already planned to sabotage A/S out of the first minister,s job next week organised by hen broon ming and the alexander,s rag time blog brigade at westminster, and this will show there kind of democricy for what it is followed by a systematic prosses to ensure that the democratic prosses is doomed to fail and there numpty follower,s cant see the wood for the trees.

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The Proud Chauvanist,

The Wash 13/05/2007 10:58:18

It's always fun to read of one Scott slagging off a fellow Scott.
The so-called London Goverment is dominated by Scotts
How can you tell when a great actor is not acting? "The deed is all, the glory nothing" (Faust)
I would be suspicious of someone who has spent most of his life being someone else.
With resect to Benny Hill, The Mouthiest Milkman in the North.

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Maisie,

13/05/2007 11:01:29

113. The Proud Chauvanist

You will be meaning Scot rather than Scott?

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commonsense,

At computer 13/05/2007 11:02:15

I hope I become a celebrity soon,it appears that I will then have increased brain power,and will be capable of clever idea's on every subject.

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Maisie,

13/05/2007 11:04:41

115. commonsense

Nope, it's just that the papers will want to hear your thoughts because you are famous. Hope they are not crappy thoughts you have?

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commonsense,

At computer 13/05/2007 11:07:33

116 Maisie
If I am famous,how could they possibly be crappy thoughts?

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John1,

Stirling 13/05/2007 11:09:27

"I do not think the UK is a United Kingdom. I think it is not a democracy, it is not equal, that's the problem." So says Connery. What exactly does he mean by that? Define 'Democracy'. This country (the UK) is as close as any country has ever got to an ideal form of government. It has its faults but at least we can 'vote the rascals out' every four or five years. There is much bleating above about 'Freedom'. I would not like to live in a country run by people with the attitudes adopted by those whose posts equate Independence with Freedom. We have freedom, in a country which has a lot to be proud of and is taken as a model by many other countries. 'The Scots' do not want Independence.
As for equality - what's that? We all have equality of opportunity. Connery has a lifestyle which he achieved by taking advantage of the opportunities he had. Good luck to him in that. Equality of outcome is unachievable and undesireable. It would see those who did not take advantage of their opportunities living as he does, paid for by him. Is that what he wants? Some of the bleaters for 'Freedom' seem to mean just that - Socialist-style equality, known to have failed wherever it has been tried.

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Pilrig,

Livingston 13/05/2007 11:17:33

118 - we'll soon have a little less freedom - id cards.

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Bigmac,

SCOTLAND 13/05/2007 11:25:20

92. Ruskie - thank god someone on this posting talks sense, I am tired of reading these posts from everyone accross the pond and beyond, if you all think it's so great why don't you stay in Scotland and build a Scotland everyone can be proud of - put up or shut up - the SNP will need all the help they can get and with you lot drivelling on it makes me even more concerned for the future of our country.
Someone mentioned that Sean doesn't have an ego !! get real, there isn't an actor alive that doesn't have an ego, so really he has a lot more in common with politicians than he thinks - this includes Blair, Mcconnell and Salmon....end of story, now we have to face up to the reality and we will need more than words, but it worrries me that all we will get as usual is words, like actors the script won't be that different.

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Bigmac,

SCOTLAND 13/05/2007 11:26:47

Swilliy Tisher I could say you talking something that rhymes with your name, he doesn't talk for 99% of Scots, abroad maybe !!

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Willie,

13/05/2007 11:28:28

# 121 What a load of tosh.
Do you honestly believe that a man that advocated giving the little woman a slap deserves or gets the support of 99% of Scots?
What planet do you live on?
Then you seem to have a short memory like him?
What about Kosovo in 1999 our soon to be first minister condemned the bombing by NATO as unpardonable folly, and misguided policy and compared our forces to the Luftwaffe.

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lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 11:35:22

102. with an attitude like that, it's no wonder the uk gets no where fast!

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watcher,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 11:42:55

I didn’t read about shir Shaun telling Queen liz to stick her knighthood up her arsh. He certainly is a great ambassador to the Scottish national Party and I bet he is the first guest when Sir Alex Salmond goes to the garden party. By the way Shaun, Sir Alex and his love child are really Socialists in disguise.

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Gregorf,

13/05/2007 11:43:12

21

Only one post today - the cable has been disconnected and broadband gone before I myself head off. I want to live in a proper country full of capable people who can look after their own affairs and bring my kids up in a safe, wealthy, healthy environment and away from an increasingly desparate society riddled with violence, poverty and ill health in the grips of a social recession. Long live Scotland but I doubt if things continue the way they are going by the general mindset of some folk here - anyone for some smack?

As for lambasting Sir Sean, who I personally don't like that much but do respect his achievements. what exactly is wrong with sending your kids to Gordonstoun? Everyone knows that you don't get into the best universities in this country ( we have to positively discriminate to get Scottish people into Edinburgh university and St Andrews as we speak after they were found out to have taken in less than 1% Scottish kids).

Your belief is that we should all send highly capable and interested working class kids to medium ranking Universities even if they excelled at school and should have gone to these institutions on merit.

The longer Scottish people hang on to these antiquated left wing ideals without knowing how education works are a serious threat to the development of this country. Does anyone really think that EU and St Andrews, Oxford and Cambridge accept those with the best grades? They accept those whose parents spent the cash on their kids at a young age by sending them to 30k independent private schools whose teachers come from an Oxbridge background.

You obviously want no future for Scotland's brightest where they can reach their full potential. Simple fact. My job that I am leaving here for is incidentally an education broker in Asia to get the rich kids into the best universities. To do that they have to first do their secondary education in ther best private schools.

Everyone lives in a clou

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Mary of Argyll,

Bathgate 13/05/2007 11:45:54

Once again - Sean Connery's comments make refreshing reading. I too remember the shameful way Winnie Ewing was treated when she became Scotland's voice in Parliament. In those days the Parliamentary time allocated to governing Scotland was slotted in on Thursday afternoons.
I'm not surprised that Labour spokesmen were not available to reply to Sean's comments...perhaps still suffering from mental fatigue after telling all the lies they concocted for the recent elections. Incidentally, isn't it interesting to watch the spectacle Jack McConnel's making of himself, posturing and still attempting to pose as a First Minister - give us a break Jack - sit down and shut up! Meanwhile the Lib Dems are busy showing all and sundry why they picked YELLOW as their colour.

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walter,

13/05/2007 11:55:09

#14 Jim A
If old 007 wants to live in the Bahamas then that's up to him. Lets face it, given a choice where would anybody rather spend a Scottish winter, Auld Reekie or the Bahamas. Fact that he lives there doesn't make him any less a Scotsman. You can take the man out of Scotland but you can't take Scotland out of the man.

("Fact that he lives there doesn't make him any less a Scotsman")
No that distinction only goes to those of us who believe in the union as far as the SNPers who frequently post here are concerned.

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Rab McClair,

The Best Wee Republic-To-Be 13/05/2007 11:58:12

Dear Sir Sean
Yer pictures are p***...but yer right on re Bliar and his massacre of Iraqis !!

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walter,

13/05/2007 12:00:32

#121
Sir Sean , you speak for 99 per cent of Scots - at home and abroad.

You know that for a fact do you.
If he speaks for 99% of the people how the hell did Labour get 46 seats one less than the SNP.

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'wellfanusa,

Florida, USA 13/05/2007 12:00:38

Sean takes himself far too seriously. Let's not do the same.

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bill1,

13/05/2007 12:02:49

93. PDdod

A very impressive list. I could take issue with most of the items but I won't.

Instead you might say what he has done for government, democracy, freedom and world peace; worse than nothing - massive moves in the opposite direction.

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Maisie,

13/05/2007 12:09:52

125. lia

Is that it? Yes it is no wonder the Uk gets no where fast, I agree. It's because we are not united and I don't think we ever will be lia. My son studies in the North East, I visit a lot, I love the people there, they are as near to Scots as you will get, down to earth, straight talking and real. But I get on with a lot on French, Russians and Poles as well.

The issue of independence is simple, let the Scottish people be in control of their own destiny. No more no less.

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inter alia,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 12:10:59

Good milkman though - graduated from the university of life.

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ex ex-pat,

edinburgh 13/05/2007 12:11:39

For Sean Connery to claim allegiance to the SNP cause is pretty ridiculous. Has he lived in Scotland since the 1960s? Occasional visits (as a "celebrity") don't count. The reality of life in Scotland today is totally foreign to him.
Of course he can choose to live wherever he wants, but if he truly loves the country of his birth, he'll come back to live here, or at least buy a home here for more frequent visits.
Unless he actually experiences all that life in the modern Scotland has to offer, he has no right to pontificate, nor to call himself a patriot.
Also, he is most assuredly NOT a politician, and has no political acumen, experience or knowledge.
For Alex Salmond to listen to anything he has to say, let alone act upon any of Connery's advice, clearly shows how inept, unimaginative, desperate and celebrity-endorsement-seeking Salmond is.

132

Dairy Dan,

wensleydale 13/05/2007 12:16:12

The dairy content of these postings is lamentably low. A calcium deficiency is bad for your sense of humour. Enough crackers already - more cheese please.

133

Maisie,

13/05/2007 12:16:41

128. Mary of Argyll

I keep hearing about the disgraceful treatment of Winnie Ewing in Westminster but I am ashamed to admit, I am ignorant of this, if you dont mind, can you give me a brief idea of what happened to Winnie?

134

Big Ron,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 12:16:52

121 - Connery most certainly does not speak for most Scots. His views on independence are obviously only shared by the 17% of the electorate that voted for the SNP.

Please bloggers, spare us the 'Freedom' rubbish. Scotland will not be independent in our lifetimes. I do hope the SNP make a better fist of running Scotland than Labour. But there central raison d'etre is one that will not come to pass.

135

Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 13/05/2007 12:19:16

I bet T Blair buggers off abroad and dodges uk taxes...

136

Maisie,

13/05/2007 12:20:03

117. commonsense

Get famous then we will talk commonsense lol

137

inter alia,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 12:30:30

I have no objections to Connery expressing his views on subjects he can reasonably claim to have done the hard work necessary to hold such views. With Connery I fear it is the unexamined life. Good milkman though - east fountanbridge has never been the same since he left x

138

Rob me blind,

13/05/2007 12:31:14

The man who wants the best for Scotland can continue to do what he has for years LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE

139

Tax haven,

13/05/2007 12:33:57

Quote from Team America World Police:

As actors, it is our responsibility to read the newspapers, and then say what we read on television like it's our own opinion.

140

PDdod,

peterhead 13/05/2007 12:37:07

The SNP supporters who have vilified all those of a different politcal persusion for weeks are now this very day having the tables turned towards themselves on the suibject of a tax dodging political non-entity- They don't like it one little bit but they had better get used to it over the next for years. The wizend faced Sturgeon and ever fattening Salmond are in for a bumpy rise. Unfortunately so too is Scotland

141

Pilrig,

Livingston 13/05/2007 12:49:18

Big Ron #139 - imo the English electorate will be wanting us to naff off after they've experienced Broon.
I for one wont be arguing 'please keep us' !

142

StopTheNumpties,

13/05/2007 12:49:50

Sean doesn't tell it like it is. He tells it like he sees it, and his vision isn't always clear. Right now he sounds like little more than an angry parent yelling at his children from the sidelines. Heaven forbid that he'd actually just shut up and focus on solutions instead of whining about problems. Seems there is a significant gulf between being able to act and the ability to lead, at least in Sean's case.

143

John S,

13/05/2007 12:50:30

#128 (Maise) ref Winnie Ewing's treatment in Westminster.

The Scotsman - Thu 22 Feb 2007

Quote:-She says she was treated with inexcusable boorishness and contempt by many Labour MPs: "These people were dross. I would look at the ranks of them in the chamber and think, 'My God, these people are representing Scotland, my country, heaven help us.'"

She has a special word of warmth about the Tory leader Ted Heath: "He was a shy man for a politician, completely ill at ease with women, but he was always very helpful, and he gave me useful tips about how the Commons worked. Ted was a true gentleman. UnQuote.

http://living.scotsman.com/people.cfm?id=283592007

144

faithfulskeptic,

Isle of Dogs 13/05/2007 12:53:44

re:
Referring to the decision to hold council and Parliament votes together, he added: "No other place would attempt to do the two on the same day. It's a real, horrendous mistake."

So you can understand why so many Americans don't vote - it's common to chose the president and the dogcatcher on the same day, along with a raft of other state and local officials that most of the voters have never heard of.

And who do they get for Commander in Chief? Someone you wouldn't trust to do a dogcatcher's job, and every bit as confused as the poor souls who try to do their civic duty.

145

An Australian,

13/05/2007 12:53:58

Who could care less what this grubby little has-been thinks? Just give him another cocktail and tell him to shut it. He's lucky enough not to have to live here, so his gloating is all the worse.

146

Pilrig,

Livingston 13/05/2007 12:54:31

140 - not sure about the potential tax dodge but looks certain he'll head over to the States, for the lucrative lecture circuit. Besides, his neo con pals and allies over there are guaranteed to give him a warm welcome.

147

Firozali A.Mulla MBA PhD,

Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania 13/05/2007 12:55:00

NO 93
You are good. I have a vacancy in yellow pages that have turned brown because of the global warming. You are good man. You are good you are good. man you are good. You have points I simply do not understand but write any way Then join nursery school .It is good break after this long comment.
Phew ten commandments were shorter

148

Maisie,

13/05/2007 13:05:26

148. John S

Thanks for that John, she is a remarkable woman to have gone through all that and come out with such dignity and still optimistic as well.

149

lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 13:09:39

134. AS long as there are people like you,in both scotland and england we never will be.My daughter marries her scotsman in august a union between england and scotland niether his family nor ours think we are a separete nation.

150

Pilrig,

Livingston 13/05/2007 13:11:54

154 lia - we're North British !

151

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13/05/2007 13:16:32
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152

Mary of Argyll,

Bathgate 13/05/2007 13:26:47

To 138 - Maisie & 148 John S. My mother was an aquaintance of both Wendy Wood and Winnie Ewing. When Winnie achieved the SNP dream of a seat in Parliament, we were 'over the moon'. However, to the best of my recollection, Winnie was both ostracised and ridiculed by other 'Scottish' MPs. She had difficulty in obtaining even the most basic amenities, i.e. secretarial services, necessary to conducting her work, but managed to overcome these with her usual panache and resourcefulness.

153

Kenneth,

13/05/2007 13:34:00

He's a good looking guy, rich, famous, arrogant, and people love him. So why not make him King? He has all the ingredients necessary: the above, a vacumn in Scotland, and millions of empty headed doters who need a hero so they don't have to think for themselves. It's easy to sit outside a situationa and critisize. The view is clear and unobstructed. When one gets into the mess, however, that is where and when the true heros are made. If Connery has an opinion he should voice it inside Scotland, inside the mess, and not as some king in exile. This is Hollywood and adoring fans make Hollywood so make him a king. After all he is married to a Frenchwoman, has slain countless villains, lives in exile, (albeit self and selfish exile), and he still looks good.

154

Kenneth,

13/05/2007 13:35:23

The man who would be king? If it's too good to be true then why not make it true?

155

Julian,

13/05/2007 13:39:29

#159, Kenneth, Kings usually live in the country they rule over do they not? And, if they are in exile, it's usually for a better reason than to avoid the bad weather.

It's too bad to be true and no, don't make it true.

156

JG,

Fife 13/05/2007 13:52:13

#159 Kenneth
Anyway, AJ and I decided WE were going to be king and queen of Scotland (without conjugal rights, due to not wanting to upset MRS AJ). I appreciate that our postings on a previous comments board some time ago were purile nonsense, but it was no worse than some of the tosh presented here as genuine ideas!!

157

Kenneth,

13/05/2007 13:52:13

#160
Julian:

There is always a king in exile somewhere, waiting for the opportune alignment of discontent and personal ego. He is hooked up with a wife from another country, usually France, and has a lot of sway in his home country. The people are usually unhappy with the governance of their land from another more powerful part of the realm. Come on man this is perfect. Read all the comments. He would be crowned with no problem. You could do the election bit first of course just as a ritual of sorts.

158

bill1,

13/05/2007 13:54:13

119. Guga, Rockall

Why don't you re-register and join in?

159

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 13/05/2007 13:57:46

Is the true face of Labour negativity not manifesting itself already? What bile.

Why have these posters (and imposters) read the article? Reminds me of Mary Whitehouse watching a TV programme just to get herself thoroughly disgusted enough to complain about it.

Man gets asked for his opinion. Gives it and then gets defamed in such vulgar fashion by people who think they are so superior because they are happy living in the slum given to them by the Labour party in Scotland.

I lived abroad for 7 years and in London for another 7 years. Doesn't make you any less Scottish - more so in fact but with a broader mind. Used to wonder what the point of travelling was when all you encoutered on your return was narrow mindedness.

Another thing I noticed abroad was the majority of ex-pats wanted Scotland to be independent too - apart from the ex-pats in England. So you have to question the real locations of a lot of these posters (imposters).

160

"Scotty",

13/05/2007 14:25:02

#156; who is Mel Gibbs????

161

Angus Ogg,

Leaving On A Ferry 13/05/2007 14:32:59

# 93. PDdodd,

Interesting List. Interesting Times.

Yes, New Labour have done a lot right.

But if everything is so good, why is the Labour vote so bad? Please don't give the endless spin that the vote "held up". SNP had a remarkable result. The word remarkable is true and in context. Labour lost. You can't get a little bit pregnant. Labour lost.

Why?

Fear over Hope.

The electorate rejected this. No spin PDdodd. The end result of the electoral arithmetic is Alex Salmond, barring a political earthquake, will be First Minister next week.

Somewhere along the line, New Labour have lost the way, and they need to do their homework and study where it has gone wrong.

No amount of spin, or press manipulation, or "lists" which are now all taken with a pinch of salt will do.

New Labour need the "X" factor. Maybe Gordon will pull it off. He is certainly the man to do so if anyone can.

Though in Scotland Sir Jack McConnell is shortly to head off, down to Llondon, to accept his consolation prize from the Queen, and thereafter retire. Indeed given his calling his constituency a "midden" and the local press treating him with as much popularity as a pork pie at a Jewish wedding, I think Jack will retire as an MSP as well.

Events to confirm this are now in motion. As I write, Central Ayrshire MP, Brian Donohe is already proposing Dr John Reid to take over as leader of the Labour Party in Scotland once he vacates the Home Office in June.

As the Chinese say: Interesting Times.

As for the PDdodd list.

Interesting List.

But I don't quite buy it, and neither, with all due respect does the majority of the electorate in Scotland anymore.

162

bill1,

13/05/2007 14:33:05

158. Kenneth

"He's a good looking guy, rich, famous, arrogant, and people love him. So why not make him King?"

He's not German. You have to be German.

163

HZ,

13/05/2007 14:42:22

Well, first off I have to admit I've not read the article, and I'm not going to.

I don't care what some egotistical old actor who hasn't lived in this country in decades has to say about our politics and our country and quite frankly don't see why anyone other than the most pitiful of sychophants would.

164

Aye hopeful!,

Shanhai 13/05/2007 14:43:28

What is about Scotland that everyone gets all heated by what some actor says, whether Sean, Wilson or whoever. Sean’s a bit like John Wayne played himself in everything he appeared in – is that what really makes a good actor or is just because he is Scottish that he is though “great’ in Scotland. I am more concerned over the question of the spoilt ballot papers – were they really all that difficult to read and understand – or should we be looking more closely at education and communication in Scotland than worrying unnecessarily about the ranting, whether you agree or not, of an aging actor. At the end of the day is there anyone in Scotland with the necessary education and ability and willingness to take on the mantle of government or are we going to have to put up with the same old bunch of self-serving, expense loading, incompetent deadbeats under another name? Frankly there are few names on the current roster than inspire any real confidence.

165

Mary Ann Fraser, of Lovat, Sawant,

13/05/2007 14:53:40

I love Sean Connery, He reminds me of my dad in looks and intelligence.

166

John2,

Kent2 13/05/2007 14:56:44

Hi John McLxxx (No 32)

Scots do not have to stay "stuck in England" as you put it, they can leave whenever they want to so don't make it sound as if we are preventing them from returning to the land of their birth.

Clearly many of those "stuck in England" prefer that than being "stuck in Scotland" but never mind - do the usual thing and blame the English. Cheers

167

Angus Ogg,

Leaving On A Ferry 13/05/2007 15:01:08

#139

Big Ron, you do yourself, and all 100% of the electorate a disservice.

Your manipulation of the figures (belittling the SNP with the invidious 17% spin) are one of the reasons that people like me lent their Labour vote to the SNP.

As for Big Sean, well he most certanly speaks for me. Even if he is growing old a little disgracefully. A Scots Victor McMeldrew as it were. At least the guy puts his money where his mouth is. To wit substantial donations Sir Sean has made to Scottish charities. Not to mention his annual financial commitment to the SNP. He is a far better man for all that.

A lot of the posters here have the whiff of Donald Dewar's (very rare) small mindeness in trying to veto Sean Connery's Knighthood. I have a lot of respect for the late Donald Dewar. His heart was in the right place on many things, not least devolution. But for whatever reason, he made a big mistake when dealing with Sean Connery.

The same goes for those posting insulting comments about Sir Sean Connery, a man who is a one of Scotland's greatest icons.

PLEASE: Try and raise the debate a little.

168

boudica,

Glasgow 13/05/2007 15:10:34

Sorry but cant take Old Sean of Espania seriously as from past experience actors and Politics dont mix remember Ronald Reagan and of course Ms Redgrave are both fine examples of Big Mouthed Idiots and as for the SNP ( The Chocolate Teapot Brigade ) all they are is Tartan Tories and will damaged this country beyond repair if we allow it . as for the SNP canditate for Govanhill and his Placard Asian for Independence , Do people of Asian origin not deem themselves Scottish as this was a worrying sign of division already .as if we dont have enough of that sort on the Island of ours

169

Angus Ogg,

Leaving On A Ferry 13/05/2007 15:10:39

# 169.

What an ignorant and inane post.

Why make it?

You insult everyone who has, at least taken the time to read the article before posting an opinion.

You appear a self confessed lazy ignorant person, and one who takes cheap shots at a named individual from the security of an anonymous/hidden internet ID.

Please spare those who make the time and effort to express an "informed" view by reading the article, anymore inane bile.

Thankyou.

170

ian citizen,

juan carlos connery 13/05/2007 15:11:02

what a F******* cheek connery has ' scotland is a great country' etc etc etc so why dos he live in the bahamas come home sean then pass your opinions

171

Kenneth,

13/05/2007 15:14:14

#167 bill 1
Maybe if you wanted to be king of the great oppressive southern land, however, the Scots have always had a French connection. I tell ya this is the real deal. He'd come ashore at night from one of his yachts. There would be only a few trusted friends there to meet him. Little by little word would spread that HE is there or here. Then sightings would be reported. Then he would appear at some sort of ruckus and solve the problem and from there on in all would be well. This could take about forty to forty-five minutes leaving time for the romantic stuff, either him with some farmer's daughter or some farmer's son with his wife. Details details. It's no differant than running a country.

172

Kenneth,

13/05/2007 15:20:36

#162 JG

I'm next in line to be king if Sir Sean doesn't rise to the occasion, (sounds like something he'd say in one of his movies eh. "rise to the occasion"). It was my idea and my and the missus have discussed this and already have a long list of complaints about Scotland. We were planning to become Kind and Queen of British Columbia or Alberta cuz they aren't too happy about the great oppressors to the East but we'd take Scotland. If we do take BC or Alberta you and yours can have Scotland.

And that is another thing that burns my arse.

173

Orson Oilwells,

ALBA BONNIE AND SOON FREE.............. 13/05/2007 15:21:21

When ever Sean or Brian Souter or Tom Farmer make comments which they are perfectly entitled to do. You get the small minded nobodies crawling out of the woodwork to slag them of on this forum.
The fact is that these people, who are internationally famous and high achievers create jealousy by the success they enjoy. And the sad nobodies would slag them of at any given chance. These three mentioned have done more for Scotland by their success than these nobodies will do if they live to be 1,000. They all have donated millions to their Scottish charities to help disadvantaged children in Scotland and they deserve plaudits for that and not sneering snide remarks.
So nobodies keep on dreaming, you could not lace their boots.

Maisie. Don't waste your energy on Lia. She sounds like Goody's mother of Big Brother. Bitter and twisted.

174

Kenneth,

13/05/2007 15:31:19

#181

That's why he should be King. He has the conections. He has big bucks. I'd move there.

I thought he was Irish---all this time.

175

Maisie,

13/05/2007 15:33:57

181. Orson Oilwells

Well said Orson Oilwells (still love that name)

176

Finnking,

Not In Scotland 13/05/2007 15:36:10

Speaking from experience, living abroad makes you realise a) what a great place Scotland actually is and b) how better it could be if the 5million folk there could run the place for themselves.

Here in Finland, the government is much, much more accountable than in the 'uk'. Sure, they are still a bunch of scheming, industry before community, liars but they must make greater efforts on behalf of the community than the 'uk' politicians do. BTW: Finland has bugger all except trees, lochs, land and people but they manage quite well. (although the € seems to be increasing poverty for some while reducing it for the few).

As for Scots living abroad not being allowed to comment on things 'Scottish': Boll*x! People move for various reasons but very rarely because they dislike Scotland and want to disown it.

177

joejohn,

ny ny 13/05/2007 15:36:32

Only Ronald Reagan in American politics could surpass the gifted political Connery’s eloquence as one of the most important mind in Scottish aristocracy but then again life is theatre – isn’t it and as well a spectators sports of cloak dagger and makeup. With a tinge of a avuncular gangster polemics of intrigue espionages ever present in grandeur of stardom.

178

Pro Libertate,

Stirling 13/05/2007 15:39:03

I see the Stalinists are on the forum again today - no free thinking allowed. Does anybody know where these doolies can get some 'reality pills'?

They lost the election and then blamed the system they chose,
Apparently you need to be resident in Scotland to have an opinion about the place, and
Lia is concerned that everybody in Scotland (allegedly) gets more money spent on them than in England.

Lia, push the envelope and take the next step in your thought process. Could it be that it is because of the Labour domination in Scotalnd over the last 50 years that Scotland is going nowhere. Hence the reason why a few folk are opptimistic at the change of government.

Could you also explain what the difference between:
a) people in England not wanting to be ruled from Brussels, and
b) Scotland not wanting to be ruled from Westminster.

I see the principle as being the same. Do you agree?

179

Maisie,

13/05/2007 15:46:00

186. Pro Libertate

Lia also feels she understands the whole issues that affect us in Scotland because her daughter is going to marry a Scottish guy. She sounds exasperated at us for not listening to her words of wisdom as an expert on Scottish affairs.

180

watcher,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 15:52:24

I didn’t read about shir Shaun telling Queen liz to stick her knighthood up her arsh. He certainly is a great ambassador to the Scottish national Party and I bet he is the first guest when Sir Alex Salmond goes to the garden party. By the way Shaun, Sir Alex and his love child are really Socialists in disguise.
Well ok Torys am only kiddin

181

Tony Cameron,

13/05/2007 15:57:56

173

"The same goes for those posting insulting comments about Sir Sean Connery, a man who is a one of Scotland's greatest icons."

Nothing that anyone could say about this man could insult him as much as he insults himself and women in that clip from Barbara Walters.

I would rather not belong to a nation whose icon holds those obnoxious views.

182

John1,

Stirling 13/05/2007 16:02:46

127. Gregorf
8/10. State schools should be as good as private ones and would be if the effort was put in instead of chasing pc nonsense and levelling down instead of up. Even Oxbridge has been infected with this idea and discriminates against those from private schools, ignoring the law which says this is wrong. It is this socialist idea that working class children are not bright enough to get on under their own steam given the opportunity, which holds the UK, and Scotland in particular, back.
170. Aye hopeful!
Re the spoilt ballot papers: I have a friend who has 'Learning Difficulties'. He explained how he managed to understand the system - he read the instructions. I agree the 'two votes on one paper' was confusing but a careful reading of those instructions could have saved 100,000 people from having their votes disallowed.

I've always regarded the SNP as a useful goad in Westminster to remind certain people that there is life north of Watford. Let's see how they get on running Scotland, but please - forget all this 'Independence' nonsense. It was the British who created much of what is good in the modern world, not the Scots, the English, the Welsh, the Irish, the Orcadians, the Cornish, or anyone else who thinks their little bit of the UK would, in some vague and undefined way, be better off on its own. The future looks exciting, but let's approach it together.

183

Kenneth,

13/05/2007 16:02:58

185 Joejon

That is what I meant to say-avuncular-yeah kind of like a generous uncle gangster disputing, wait a minute. That's Marlon Brando in the Godfather. Man you are way off base. Connery is more like that king that lived in the Caribean cuz he wanted to marry some divorced American. He had stuff to say from his veranda. Amazing how a comfortable chair, weather to ponder and muse, and a little lemon flavoured drink to grease the skids can get a fella to see what's what.

184

lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 16:04:16

186. stop bl--dy whinging, if labour were so bad why vote them to power,talk about slow,and still half the population of scotland voted labour. Even if you got independence i assume you'd still be in europe, so you'd get ruled from brussels too. BETTER THE DEVIL YOU KNOW.

185

JG,

Fife 13/05/2007 16:05:29

#180 Kenneth
I'm sure you'll make a fine monarch in BC and Alberta. HOWEVER, AJ's got his heart set on ruling this place (we couldnae make a worse job of running the show than this current lot!!) and he'd be awfy upset if he was usurped by some invaders! You can come to our first garden party - we'll hae a band an' everything (including sandwiches wi' the crusts cut off and shortbread fingers).

186

Cjennings,

Dornach 13/05/2007 16:05:57

I do believe that I prefer hearing SC speak other peoples lines rather than his own.
He's a fine actor and should do just that

187

lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 16:06:01

191. well said.

188

Name,

13/05/2007 16:12:31

Sheen Canary doesnt even live in Scotland any more the prat.

189

Maxwell GG,

USA 13/05/2007 16:12:35

I thought all you Liberals disliked us ex-Pats who no longer live in the UK?
Now, because an 80-year old James Bond says something you like, it's no big deal.

He shows what little class he has in what he says about Blair. Regardless of your political suasion, show some class man.

Sean Connery has virtually no education, and has been living in La La land the past 40 years. Why on earth would anyone think what he has to say, and his 'advice' on political matters, carries any merit?

My Lord. Get a clue. You all acting like children taken to a toy store for the first time. Change your undies.

190

L C Y,

auchterarder 13/05/2007 16:16:30

Why is Sean Connery so vociferous from such a distance? - he's more than welcome to stay wherever he wants but not entitled to make the sort of comments reported - it's one of the downsides of the SNP that he supports them and has so much to say. However, I suppose the attraction is that 'money talks.'

191

Janet Bruce,

Argentina 13/05/2007 16:18:41

Just a little comment on all that has been mentioned so far. My father and family came out to Argentina in the 20's, and all their children were born here. Since then, we have been brought up with a great feeling of pride for being of Scottish blood. I remember the joke was that the biggest export Scotland has is their people.
I'm not going to give my personal opinion of Connery, but I will say this: any well-known person who can put Scottish affairs in the rest of the world's newspapers, will probably render some benefit, even if it's only for touristic means.
You may not know, but when one mentions one's origins, in all South America they will in 90% of the cases comment:'Ah, that's part of England isn't it?' Now you may realise why we (that don't live there, don't pay our taxes there, etc) feel that someone who is better known than me (for example!), is doing thoroughly well in trying to keep the Scottish on the front pages as much as possible!

192

lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 16:20:54

187. stop treating everyone who has a differant point of view from you with distane, I talk to a lot of scottish folk and we all agree nationalism will only cause trouble.

193

boudica,

Glasgow 13/05/2007 16:21:56

The Irish Free State was deemed a 3rd world country up until the middle 90`s so it took them over 70yrs to stand on their own feet.The UK as the strongest Economy in the West. And Slamonds comment of " We can leave the Union and if we want we can rejoin later " does he really mean
" Well if I make a right mess of it we can just go back to the Union" ..That comment alone speaks volumes

194

David Harrington,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 16:22:18

What makes Sean Connery's views more valid than anybody else's? He doesn't live here, hasn't done for years, and hardly ever visits. In my book, that makes him about as qualified as I am to make comments on Hugo Chavez's government in Venezuela.

195

Maisie,

13/05/2007 16:23:27

201. lia

Yes lia, you and all those 'scottish folk' must be right then.

196

Maisie,

13/05/2007 16:26:55

201. lia

Please let it be noted, it is only you I treat with disdain lia. You may not know why as you seem so bloody minded and indignant.

197

Lanna,

13/05/2007 16:29:56

#162 JG, yer majesty
I remember reading that conversation!! :)

#184 Finnking, nicely said

198

lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 16:32:36

204. there you go again, please remember not all scots think like you, thank god.

199

lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 16:35:37

205. probably because i want to unite the country, and you want to tear it apart!

200

JG,

Fife 13/05/2007 16:40:01

#206 Lanna
Good morning!

I thought AJ would have been here for the 200 but he's maybe cutting the grass or something! He'll no doubt turn up now you've posted;-)

Shir Shean is entitled to his opinion but it is no more valid than mine is.

201

lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 16:40:22

maisie. if wanting to unite this great country of ours makes me bloody minded, so be it!

202

Maisie,

13/05/2007 16:40:30

207. lia

Thank god, not all people from your neck of the woods is like you as well lia, you dont see me on North East English boards telling them how stupid they are.

203

Maisie,

13/05/2007 16:45:04

210. lia

Do you seriously think that YOU, Lia can UNITE this 'great' country? What country lia? Do you mean ALL the countries that make up the UK?

What exactly are your high fulooting motives for being in here? You dont contribute much except to put anyone who wants Scottish independence down.

204

lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 16:54:22

212. no i would'nt be that arrogant, but i am entitled to express my opinion like every one else, get of your high horse. THINK I HIT A NERVE!

205

boudica,

Glasgow 13/05/2007 16:57:19

Lets say we do become Independant ..Will that be the end of , Free care for the elderly and winter fuel grants for them too also their state pension ,Social Security and Disability Allowances , tax credits , all students will have to pay University fee`s, the minimum wage . the free health service etc all things that we take for granted in Scotland and as for our Security Services and Police force as well as Armed forces and what about all services supplied by each of our Councils , or are some as dumb as the Lib Dem leader who expects westminster to keep on paying for all this ??

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lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 17:01:06

214. at last, someone with commen sense, thank you.

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boudica,

Glasgow 13/05/2007 17:02:12

Maisie ..You should get of your High Horse as you are putting down anyone who doesnt agree with the SNP ...You seem ignore the fact that not all the Scottish People want to break from the Union as many Polls made abduntly clear, the SNP only got 1 seat more than Labour and you may find in the next election that you only got that far because of a large Protest vote , so you should rap talking as if You speak for Scotland on the Whole ..You dont .. so chill ..

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Maisie,

13/05/2007 17:03:39

213. lia

No you did not hit a nerve, you just irritate the life out of me.

* I apologise to anyone on this board for taking up so much space on lia, I couldnt help it, I was irritated beyond belief, however I shall regain my composure and back off, cos I can see how pathetic I am for being goaded. Sorry folks.

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doris d,

13/05/2007 17:07:14

well spokem Shir Sean!!!

Douglas Alexander SHOULD be asked to resign over the ballot fiasco-however Gorgon Broon seems on track to promote him into his new cabinet. Broon was telling Andrew Marr today that he intended to introduce electoral reform. Presumably that means he'll make Alexander Home Secretary in charge of UK elections!!

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Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 13/05/2007 17:07:21

-- Lets say we do become Independant ..Will that be the end of , Free care for the elderly and winter fuel grants for them too also their state pension ,Social Security and Disability Allowances , tax credits , all students will have to pay University fee`s, the minimum wage . the free health service etc all things that we take for granted in Scotland and as for our Security Services and Police force as well as Armed forces and what about all services supplied by each of our Councils ...

Norway doesn't have this problem and neither does New Zealand. These countries don't subsidise Westminster like we do.

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Kenneth,

13/05/2007 17:10:26

#194 JG

Now just a minute, my grandad came from the third island Outer Hebrides, although my other one came from the Ukraine. It doesn't matter though, I was born in Canada, lived in France, and now in the US so my credibility is totally shot. If I ever get to Scotland though, I will surely attend the coronation of whoever gets it. I appreciate your offer and have always had a spot-soft I suppose-for Scotland. I hate the pommies-grew up in Canada with tons of them just arrived seeming to ask, "What are you doing here?" A wonderful people the English, if they would only stay in their yard. When I lived in France they seemed to have a similar problem with the French, which to them is the only thing wrong with that country. Enough for now.

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Pro Libertate,

Stirling 13/05/2007 17:14:02

LIA, I think that you and I agree there is a need for a change in government in Scotland, but I do not agree with your comment about, ‘better the devil you know’.
If we’d stuck with the devil we knew, we’d still be stuck with Joke McConnell and his north Lanarkshire clique. (Presumably Tony and George would have stuck with Saddam??)

Unfortunately there are still too many people in this country disenfranchised with the dross in the ranks of the main political parties, and the disingenuous dross they spout. This is quite evident by the fact that the turnout on May 3rd was only 51.8% of those eligible to vote.

There were 3,893,780 people eligible to vote on May 3rd. Of this amount only 648,374 voted for Labour, which in my book means that only 16.7% (of the voting public) voted for Labour. Or to cut it another way, of those who voted, only 32% voted for Labour.

If you take a look at the political hue on the Scottish map following the election, it is clear that Labour was returned in areas of high deprivation. Unfortunately the people in these areas are hardly likely to change camps and vote SNP on the basis that that Labour has brain washed them into thinking Labour are their friends and everybody else is their enemy. (Who else would sanction the huge handouts and do nothing to break the habits?)
Example: for years Labour painted the SNP as ‘Tartan Tories’. Just another Labour lie, but enough to frighten off a good many voters. Also, in many of these areas there are still people who say ‘my parents voted Labour, so I will too’. The old adage of people voting for a pig, as long as it has a red rosette (or is it rose now?), is perhaps not too far removed from the truth!

The strong Labour vote in the central Scotland comes from the strong bonds that the unions (through the various industries) had with Labour. However, as successive Westminster Tory and Labour governments have allowed a large proportion of the industry in this area to d

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watcher,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 17:17:21

I f Shir Alex Shalmond or Lady Shturgeon( Alex love child) are reading this, then can they tell me why shir Shaun took the Queens Shilling.

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Eric The Archer,

Scotland 13/05/2007 17:17:46

How interesting. The Scotsman reported a few months ago that Sir Sean would not come back to Scotland because of Freemasonry (!) Despite this his adopted country - the Bahamas is a bastion of Scottish Freemasonry. There are six Scottish Masonic Lodges in the adopted homeland of our most famous living Scot. See the Grand Lodge of Scotland for more details: www.grandlodgescotland.com

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lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 17:17:48

maisie, listen to boudica she has a brain on her shoulders, you can't bully people into your way of thinking. * I too apologise, but i will not be bullied because i have a differant point of view.

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watcher,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 17:18:13

I f Shir Alex Shalmond or Lady Shturgeon( Alex love child) are reading this, then can they tell me why shir Shaun took the Queens Shilling.

217

S'me,

13/05/2007 17:22:07

Wife slapper. A good actor but....not a nice man.

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Eric The Archer,

Scotland 13/05/2007 17:22:36

By the way I forgot to mention that Freemasonry has nothing at all to do with the secterian organisation known as the Orange Order. That is why there are 100's of black guys in the Bahamas where Sean Connery lives who are members of Scottish Lodges

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lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 17:23:27

221. you still might be!!

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Tom More,

Canada 13/05/2007 17:29:32

I never listen to actors voicing political opinions, no matter if their name is Streisand, Streepe, Cruise, Connery or whatever. Most of them sing from the same left-wing songsheet. Profundity is not their strong point.

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boudica,

Glasgow 13/05/2007 17:30:17

Lia .. as you have seen Scotland has it fair share of Numpties Alec Salmond being the King of them with SC running a close second and because he is a Famous Actor who gives a lot Charity and who went on his knees to The Queen of the United Kingdom to accept a Knighthood . What happen to His Politics then ?..Hypocritcal or what .

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Jim O'Rourke,

Northampton 13/05/2007 17:32:17

As an exiled Dundonian, I cannot believe that Scotland's voting system was allowed to become so unecessarily complicated. As for Mr Douglas Alexander, I am filled with a sense of unease about this bloke, can't quite figure him out.

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boudica,

Glasgow 13/05/2007 17:33:18

226 ..You should go and read your History , Scots were in the Forefront of the Empire Building for Britain as they were in the Slavery Trade or have you forgotten all that so look at the Whole Picture and dont be so selective

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PONY,

vancouver island bc canada 13/05/2007 17:33:57

i guess all the charity work that connery does the boards he sits on scholerships he and other scots grants,to scots boys and girls of merrit don"t count.its true,you scots eat your young.

225

lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 17:37:13

boudica, you said it!! talk is cheap, pity his actions don't concur. Are all snp supporters so aggressive?

226

Maisie,

13/05/2007 17:38:21

"Douglas Alexander Researcher for Brown in 1990, and has remained his protégé. Transport Secretary and, at 39, the youngest member of the Cabinet. Last month he and Mr Brown jointly published a pamphlet, underlining their closeness" http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/a...

This man still has to stand up and take the flak for the mess of the elections, however it is very unlikely he will do so, he is above the law it seems.

227

NittonLover,

13/05/2007 17:38:40

#231 - Please explain why those named are numpties??? 'Cos they dared to criticize Saint Tony of Blair?

Salmond hasn't done anything yet to justify being called numpty....

Was Connery ever a republican, the SNP are not a republican party, as usual another ignorant oaf posts here.

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watcher,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 17:44:30

Still waiting for a member of the SNP to explain the knighthood. The guy is a phoney.

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Pro Libertate,

Stirling 13/05/2007 17:44:50

MAISIE, no need for apologies – free expression to everyone in Scotland and beyond.


BOUDICA you said

’Lets say we do become Independent . Will that be the end of, Free care for the elderly and winter fuel grants for them too also their state pension, Social Security and Disability Allowances, tax credits, all students will have to pay University fee`s, the minimum wage, the free health service etc all things that we take for granted in Scotland ‘

You missed out, nuclear winter, Armageddon, no air to breath, plague, pestilence, fire and brimstone.

Please, please, please justify your statements. Please prove to us all why life will not continue after independence?

We all pay taxes? Industry will continue to operate and they will continue to pay taxes? Fishing boats will continue to fish, farmers will continue to farm, dare I say that oil will continue to flow to Grangemouth and beyond? Insurance and financial institutions in Edinburgh and continue to operate? Tourists will continue to arrive?

So please prove to us the reasons for impending doom if we get independence?

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lia,

north-east england 13/05/2007 17:50:21

boudica. 237 has answered my question, they are!

231

PONY,

vancouver island bc canada 13/05/2007 17:52:10

by the by connery still has family living in edinburgh

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Calgacus re-born,

Mons Graupius 13/05/2007 17:52:38

#216. boudica, Glasgow

In my youth your very name was an inspiration to all who opposed the tyrannical invaders.

Your victories at Camulodunum and Verulamium showed us that the mighty empire was not invincible.

What is this treason that you now espouse?

The bones of the Icenii who fell in your name at Wattling Street will not forgive it. nor will I.

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Pro Libertate,

Stirling 13/05/2007 17:52:56

Is there anybody out there in the ‘union’ ranks that can succinctly explain why independence will not work financially?

Lots of talk saying it won't work, so presumably this is backed by substance? (Or is it simply more Labour spin - I know that spin is supposedly a thing of the past (or is that just spin??) but we're behind in Scotland)

Can us mere minions of the crown perhaps see some of his substance?

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watcher,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 17:53:50

F F S why did Shir Shaun take the Queens Shilling

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Eric The Archer,

Scotland 13/05/2007 17:55:18

#226. Your sense of history is very limited. Limited to the very recent - histotically speaking. You omit the Roman Empire on which much of European law rests, you omit the Greek 'empire' which gave us democracy, you omit the Chinese empire which gave us advances such as writing and chemistry. What else does your jaundiced view of empires omit?

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NittonLover,

13/05/2007 17:55:33

We are only aggressive because people like you post lies about us.

As I said the SNP are NOT a republican party there Connery is perfectly right to accept a knighthood, at least he didn't bribe the government for his honour.

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watcher,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 18:01:33

224. We haven`t got any wealth, We have no money. We have no Industry. We don`t even have any Whisky left, it is all foreign owned. There would be no point in taking the Queens head off the coins and putting Salmonds head on, because it would be worthless. I know f*** all about economics or finance but I do know when i`m skint. The only thing we will get rid off if we get independance is the SNP, as there will be nothing left for them to fight for. Then of course we will see the true colors of salmond and co.

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watcher,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 18:03:11

Oh f*** I meant 244

239

Maisie,

13/05/2007 18:03:18

237. NittonLover

A wee aside... are you actually fi nitton?

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PONY,

vancouver island bc canada 13/05/2007 18:05:34

in the us as in canada they don"t use the word britain, it is allways england scotland is never mentiond. ie the queens state visit to america, all the tv news over here said the queen of england is on a state visit.no uk no great britain but then you saw it for yourselfs the world is not watching

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Pro Libertate,

Stirling 13/05/2007 18:05:58

248: Your answer said it all, ' I know f*** all about economics or finance'. Vote labour do we?

To all cats, presently holding on to the 'union' tongues, please let go.

I’m sure there are a lot of ‘union' supporters out there wanting to explain succinctly why independence will not work financially?

Where is the substance?

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Pro Libertate,

Stirling 13/05/2007 18:10:03

Where is the substance?

243

Pro Libertate,

Stirling 13/05/2007 18:12:16

Still no substance?

244

JG,

Fife 13/05/2007 18:15:11

#252 Pro Libertate
I really don't propose to enter into any kind of "pro" or "anti" union debate (I am actually neither - I was one of those "floating voters" everyone spoke of prior to the election), but I always thought that if someone wanted people to change their minds about something, those making the effort to change were the ones who should offer the "carrot" (if you like). It's like, if I drove a Ford and you were trying to encourage me to buy a (say) Vauxhall it's not likely I would agree if your only approach was to tell me that a Ford was crap - more probable if you told me Vauxhall had leather seats, a better engine, a great sound system etc.......

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watcher,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 18:25:34

That`s not very nice 252. What you are saying is that if you are a socialist you are thick. Well Gordon Brown knows a thing or two about money.
The main reason I came on here was to get an answer to a Question. Why did Shir Shaun Take the Queens Shilling?

246

circa53,

Mich & ILL. 13/05/2007 18:26:41

Can I ask any of you why anybody cares what Sean has to say about anything Scottish, or anything else??

247

Pro Libertate,

Stirling 13/05/2007 18:31:27

255 - JG Fife:

I don't disagree with your views, but various folk on this, and other forums, continually claim that independence would (will) not work for the reasons specified in #239.

If this is the case, presumably there has to be some financial study/substance to their claim: facts, figures, inflation rates, unemployment levels, businesses closing because the business rates are to high, exchange rate, etc, etc.

Unfortunately none of the worthies that have floated this claim can back it up with facts – total Labour spin with no substance.

All I’m asking, is for them to put up or shut up.

The silence is deafening!!!

248

Tax haven,

13/05/2007 18:31:39

#244 Pro Liberate

I think the main financial point against independence is the very weak policies that SNP have.

The SNP have pledged to keep the pound this means that the country's interest rates in an independant Scotland would be set by the Bank of England. If Salmond wished to do this he would have to agree with the Bank of England restrictions to his own plans for taxation and spending lest he create inflationary pressure on the £.

Should Salmond desire to set his own budget he would have to consider a free floating independant currency or an independant currency pegged to the pound. The first option is dangerous as it would introduce exchange rate risk or barriers to trade with England and the second is dangerous as look what happend in 1992 when Britain crashed out of the ERM.

Even if he were to join the Euro it could still be dangerous as he may alienate England who (and most agree even the nationilists) would remain Scotland's biggest trading partner.

I have no doubt that Scotland could go it alone but it seems strange that they would still want England "to hold their hand" so to speak.

So if retaining B of E control they would set interest rates based on the English economy and have no regard for the Scottish economy (and yes SNP paranoids I know what you're all about to say). Or it can have it's own currency both options would be detremental to the Scottish economy.

Ideologically speaking an independant Scotland sounds nice but I am yet to be convinced that Salmond and co have the economic acumen to run a country.

Anyway enough serious speak lets get back people slagging off the wife beater, oh no he's not, oh yes he is, better than panto I tell you!

249

bill1,

13/05/2007 18:31:43

186. Pro Libertate, Stirling

"Could you also explain what the difference between:
a) people in England not wanting to be ruled from Brussels, and
b) Scotland not wanting to be ruled from Westminster.
I see the principle as being the same. Do you agree?"

and
c) people in England not wanting to be ruled by Scots ie Blair, Brown, Browne, Darling, Reid etc, whose government is enabled by Scottish Labour MPs. Answer the East Lothian question, please.

250

Lanna,

13/05/2007 18:32:35

JG, you were a floater voter??! ;)

have you read the 'bus stop banter' article?....you should add yer twa pence!!

I agree, your voice is just as important as Shir Sean's is!! I get so tired of 'hollywood ranters'

be back on later, maybe AJ as well...but ya nivir know what he's gonna be up to!?!

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wisdom,

edinburgh 13/05/2007 18:33:12

Sean Connery comes from the same stable as I do....but accepting a knighthood placed abarrier between him and the working people of Scotland...it indicates that his loyalty rests with capitalists and monarchists,Scottish or otherwise

252

Dr Malcolm H Sutcliffe PhD Physics,

13/05/2007 18:39:43

In refererence to my fellow Englishman who writes from peterborough PD Dodd#93.
1 War crimes commited in Yugoslavia,20 hospitals were bombed and this is outlined in the so called whitebook listing such war crimes.
2 WMD lies
3 NO UN authorisation for invasion of Yugoslavia
4 War crimes committed in Iraq ie crimes against peace and crimes against humanity
5 655 000 deaths up to Nov 2006 according to Lancet as consequence of invasion.
6.This constitutes a criminal offence under the 1967 genocide act.
7 Under international law unless an invasion is specifically authorised by the UN security council it is illegal, the international criminal court forced through parliament by the late Robin Cook possibly when the warcriminal Blair was too busy planning another war and not understanding the full implications of it,would have to deal with breaches of this law
8.22 in league table out of 22 advanced industrial nations in treatment of children even below USA 21
according to UN analysis.
If all the policies are so good why is what is currently called Britain is at the bottom for its treatment of children?Perhaps becuase we have been so busy trying to invaded and run other peoples countries that we have forgotten to run our own well. For the rest of this century for God's sake
lets try getting things right in this country and stop meddling in other peoples countries, by all means learn from other people,trade, aid, diplomatise,but do not invade. They must sort out their problems themselves, our 'help' costs lives,their lives and our lives it costs too much and achieves little good

We can all create lists but in the end only a criminal court either at the HAGUE OR IN ENGLAND OR SCOTLAND CAN PRONOUNCE ON THIS PERSON WITH AUTHORITY

253

Pro Libertate,

Stirling 13/05/2007 18:41:06

Tax Haven:
Agreed.

It's behind you, it's behind you . . . .

254

wisdom,

edinburgh 13/05/2007 18:42:36

261....easy....when issues arise concerning England alone then only English mps discuss and vote.When the issues concern Scotland alone then only Scots mps discuss and vote on tem.When issues arise concerning the UK,eg foreign policy,then English and Scots mps participate

255

NittonLover,

13/05/2007 18:44:11

#250 I'm fae Stirling but I live in Nitton.

256

Pro Libertate,

Stirling 13/05/2007 18:45:56

#261: bill1:

You wrote:

' c) people in England not wanting to be ruled by Scots ie Blair, Brown, Browne, Darling, Reid etc, whose government is enabled by Scottish Labour MPs. Answer the East Lothian question, please.'


I think you mean the West Lothian question, but I propose (assuming you are in England) you deport them. Only problem you'll have is finding a country willing to take them. Try Iraq, Afghanistan . . . .

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bill1,

13/05/2007 18:52:00

Further to #261, there are:
41 Labour MPs out of a total of 59, and
46 Labour MSPs out of a total of 129.

Some swing since the General Election! If there is the same swing in the next General Election, we can expect to have huge numbers of SNP MPs in Westminster, voting on English issues.

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NittonLover,

13/05/2007 18:52:27

#257 - Sean Connery is just doing what WE are doing at the moment, expressing his opinion. Because he is so famous the press go nuts when he says anything.

#263 - As for his knighthood, I wouldn't want one, I don't know many folk that would, but he is from a different generation that grew up in the shadow the WW2 who view honours differently.


#261 - Labour need the Scottish MPs votes which is why they cannot restrict votes in the commons. I don't have a problem with making only English MPs vote on English only legislation, its the only fair solution.

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ayrshie,

Drongan,Ayrshire 13/05/2007 18:54:25

Scotland, a land so rich and yet so poor .Sean is more in touch with and more dedicated to Scotland and our people that the Scottish guttet tabloids give hime credit for.
An intelligent man who says it like it is and is right in highlighting the parasitic labour and libdem partys who wont go into coalition with the SNP simply because their London scum masters dictate them not to.
Get in there Alex Salmond , we are all behind you 200%

It,s time to move on.

260

NittonLover,

13/05/2007 18:55:38

#270 - The only fair solution other than independence for Scotland I should have added.

261

Dr Malcolm H Sutcliffe PhD Physics,

13/05/2007 18:56:32

In refererence to my fellow Englishman who writes from peterborough PD Dodd#93.
1 War crimes commited in Yugoslavia,20 hospitals were bombed and this is outlined in the so called whitebook listing such war crimes.
2 WMD lies
3 NO UN authorisation for invasion of Yugoslavia
4 War crimes committed in Iraq ie crimes against peace and crimes against humanity
5 655 000 deaths up to Nov 2006 according to Lancet as consequence of invasion.
6.This constitutes a criminal offence under the 1967 genocide act.
7 Under international law unless an invasion is specifically authorised by the UN security council it is illegal, the international criminal court forced through parliament by the late Robin Cook possibly when the warcriminal Blair was too busy planning another war and not understanding the full implications of it,would have to deal with breaches of this law
8.22 in league table out of 22 advanced industrial nations in treatment of children even below USA 21
according to UN analysis.
If all the policies are so good why is what is currently called Britain is at the bottom for its treatment of children?Perhaps because we have been so busy trying to invade and run other peoples countries that we have forgotten to run our own well. For the rest of this century for God's sake
lets try getting things right in this country and stop meddling in other peoples countries, by all means learn from other people,trade, aid, diplomatise,but do not invade. They must sort out their problems themselves, our 'help' costs lives,their lives and our lives it costs too much and achieves little good

We can all create lists but in the end only a criminal court either at the HAGUE OR IN ENGLAND OR SCOTLAND CAN PRONOUNCE ON THIS PERSON WITH AUTHORITY

262

Pro Libertate,

Stirling 13/05/2007 19:01:11

I have a solution - give Scotland it's independence and then it would only be English MP's voting on English matters.

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wisdom,

edinburgh 13/05/2007 19:03:03

270....like I said...I come from THE SAME STABLE as Sean Connery...Old Town Edinburgh working class,same generation,a stone's throw from Fountainbridge....no,people of our generation and background didn't hanker after or respect honours and we weren't monarchists....he's just sooking up to those with money and power

264

breinger,

aberdeen 13/05/2007 19:04:20

Ay,lambast somebody for speakin when there no even steyin in Scotland.
Mynd noo,Alex Ferguson(fitba manager)
Gordon Brown,Tony Blair and a host of others who live in a foreign country but have nae brass neck aboot tellin the scots how ti run their ain affairs.
Ay,tell thaim ti keep there nebs oot anaw. !

265

John1,

Stirling 13/05/2007 19:05:23

219. Yok Finney,
Pepople pay for dental treatment etc in New Zealand. It's not the burden it is in the UK.

221. Pro Libertate,
I agree with your comments about Labour. I can also confirm that anyone who has been involved with the SNP would never agree they were Tories, Tartan or otherwise. The ones I've had dealings with operate somewhere to the left of Old Labour. I just hope they don't get away with that approach now they are in charge. The Tories suffer from the campaign of denigration Labour have conducted against them since Pontius was a pilot. Most voters these daysa have grown up with this ringing in their ears and have absorbed it with their mother's milk. I ask them: pause and think. What specifically have the Tories done that makes them unacceptable? Think about it. Ignore your conditioning.

226 & 240. MacShimmy
Empires come and empires go. Ours was one of the best and in the long run benefitted its components. The disasters you quote e.g. Africa becam disasters after we left. The empire was British, including Scots. As for your comments that Scotland is the last remnant. This is total nonsense with no basis in fact, just a convenient lie for those seeking control of an 'independent' Scotland. And since when were Yugoslavia and Estonia part of the British empire?

244. Pro Libertate
Usual red herring. Certainly Independence would work financially. I for one have never denied it. That still does not make independence desirable.

251 Pony
This is one of the major irritations. We gwet this sort of talk in the UK as well, so is it any wonder that foreigners get confused?

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breinger,

aberdeen 13/05/2007 19:07:18

Ay,lambast a guy for speakin while no steyin in his homeland.
Alex Ferguson (fitba manager)Gordon Brown,Tony Blair and a host of others who stey in a foreign country but have nae brass neck aboot tellin the scots how ti run there affairs.
Ay,tell thaim ti keep there nebs oot anaw. !

267

Maisie,

13/05/2007 19:08:49

267. NittonLover

God help yi lol

268

Home again,

Fraserburgh 13/05/2007 19:10:30

For all the things that can, and will, be said about Sean Connery, you can't say he's ugly and you can't say he's disloyal. You can say he likes good warm weather.

269

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 13/05/2007 19:10:43

Why do some posters refer to Sean Connery as a "former milkman"? He got to wear he is by innate talent, looks, and luck and I feel that many posters are envious, jealous nobodies who have done nothing to improve their lives and resent the fame and fortune that Sir Sean has attained.

As for that woman from Florida and another poster from the US of A - it just proves that either being born there or emigrating there makes you stupid and ignorant.

Just look at President Baby Bush. He will go down as the stupidest and most incompetent President in American history and yet there are deluded people all over the world who hang on his every misinformed phrase and think him a force for good in the world. He is an enemy of the people of the US of A and should be tried as a war criminal.

The Canadian constitution has a clause where we are allowed freedom of movement. Doesn't Great Britain allow its citizens to work and live where they want?

Would you have him chained and fettered in Glasgow or Edinburgh just to demonstrate that he, by some sort of weird thought process, MUST live and work in Scotland. Absolute rubbish.

Most of what Sir Sean Connery says rings with the truth and Scotland should be proud to have such a "roving ambassador" to promote Scotland and all its glorious achievements over the centuries.

270

wisdom,

edinburgh 13/05/2007 19:16:19

279.....good warm weather ....and money.That tis the overriding factor in every decision he makes

271

Davie from Irvine,

Ayrshire 13/05/2007 19:24:14

269 At present SNP MPs dont vote on English domestic issues.

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wisdom,

edinburgh 13/05/2007 19:26:39

Hand back the knighthood Sean.....win back the respect of the man in the workplace....it's not too late

273

Iain More,

Moray 13/05/2007 19:27:17

Oh how the sheep bleat! Blair is a war criminal who lied to Parliament and to the Country! I gess all that toxic dip they rely on has uyyerly wasted thier brains!

274

NittonLover,

13/05/2007 19:31:10

#283 - I just love inverted snobbery!

The house of lords is full of ex-socalist Labour MPs. The Labour party is funded by loans/donations from Sirs and Lords!

Lay off Sir Sean and get on at those b*stards!

275

Caora Dubh,

Cape Town 13/05/2007 19:40:12

During the atrocities that characterised the break-up of Yugoslavia, ethnic recidivists rabid with nationalistic fervour staked territorial claims on the basis of events that happened centuries ago. Such desperate clutching at rotten straws as opposed to learning to swim with the times could only happen in an inward-looking, educationally deprived backwater in which many were doomed to drown. If Scotland is to be independent, it needs to do better than hark on about Kenneth McAlpine, William Wallace, Robert the Bruce, and the much vaunted but hugely disappointing Declaration of Arbroath. Any framework for independence has to be much more than an adolescent chest-thumping exercise.

There are three reasons for borders: (1) A border is a means of influx control to keep poverty-stricken people in poverty-stricken regions. (2) Borders can separate culturally irreconcilable peoples. (3) Rarely a border can beneficially reduce costs that would be incurred by a larger political unit. (Such costs arise from having to adapt laws to suit local customs, travel of political representatives, translation, and infrastructure.)

Why an international border between England and Scotland? Unemployed Scots migrate to England. The Scottish population is dwindling. So reason (1) could only be relevant in the East German sense of preventing citizens from seeking greener pastures. Tens of thousands of Scots are married to English spouses. Even if Scots were mad enough to impose a Nazi-style “Reichsreinheitsgebot” to preserve Scottish genes, they would be in for a shock. Scots of the Lothians and Borders are predominantly Sasannachs genetically. While some argue that Burns and bagpipes are intolerable south of the Cheviots, Scotland is not quite Darfur, and the India-Pakistan and Israel-Palestine “solutions” are inapplicable. Scottish culture is not suppressed; its life or death is in Scottish hands. So reason (2) is irrelevant. What about the economic case for independence? My

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wisdom,

edinburgh 13/05/2007 19:42:15

285.....Labour ,conservative,snp,sean connery....what's the difference?.....what matters is who controls the purse strings in Scotland...the rest is all flannel

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Rebel,

South Carolina, USA 13/05/2007 19:47:36

Sir Sean deserves what he has BECAUSE HE HAS WORKED HARD FOR EVERTHING HE OWNS and only envy can explain why his naysayers expound their rubbish. Why are so many in the UK afraid of Scottish independance?

P.S. To Mr. Wingate, #280: Do not condemn all U.S. citizens as stupid and ignorant. Would all citizens of Canada be stupid and judgmental because of your attitude? I think not. Bush, (as well as 98% of politicians in the U.S.), don't give a fig about the common citizen. Just like in the U.K. and most of the rest of the world.

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boudica,

Glasgow 13/05/2007 19:48:13

Calgacus , When my Granny Boudica the First was around this Island was not partioned that came later it was 1 Land , 1 people that was ttill the Romans came then the Vikings etc . The Celts ruled all . So I am only trying to get back to the way it should be.
Maise , what industry are you talking about ? That was destroyed by Thatcher and her crew and as for the Fishing well the EU did that in , and as for Oil well we all know the damage that has done to the World and I`m sure the 2 greens who have joined Al`s bunch of cowboys will let him know how they feel about over use of fossilized fuel consumption.
Farming , yep we maybe able to be able to feed ourselves but what will that cost us , as for the Tourism industry , I dont think that will cover the cost of running a Parliment never mind the Country do you ? Do you think we`ll be able to apply for Foreign Aid ???

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NittonLover,

13/05/2007 19:49:01

#286 - What the f** are you on about???? You seem to be getting you economic arguments from the back of a fag packet. Oil revenues are a small factor in the whole UK economy, but would be a huge one in a Scottish sense.

There would be no trade barriers between Scotland and England as there is complete FREE TRADE within Europe!

The SNP has promised to reduce many factors which affect business, however most of them can only be done under an independent Scottish government.

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watcher,

Edinburgh 13/05/2007 19:53:46

Hey 284 forget the war criminal or will mention Stefan Tymkewycz father again.

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TimW1234,

13/05/2007 19:54:29

#290

I apologise. My generalisation was TOO general and I have met many intelligent, witty, and charming Americans when my father had a house in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

I think I was venting my rage at Dumbo Baby Bush, your embarrassing President.

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Dave M,

13/05/2007 20:03:47

Its not much of a story really.

The sentiments I can agree with but I have heard them many times in the workplace, in the pub etc.

The fact that a celebrity supporter of the SNP uttered them is neither here nor there.

Seems like the Scotsman is trying to forment trouble.

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kirsteen,

scotland 13/05/2007 20:05:10

I agree with NittonLover on one thing - there seems to be an awful lot of nonsense talked and parallels made between unrelated historical facts or false premises in this thread. Whether it's Scotland only having England ready to buy its produce if we went independent, to tartan tories, to Burns dictum 'a man's a man for a' that' being used to show our historical egalitarianism, which we never really had and probably never will any more than most other nations. But it does make entertaining reading, especially Granny Boudica.

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ConcernedParent,

13/05/2007 20:11:26

If Sean Connery wants to live in the Bahamas, wtf has that got to do with his political views? Scots have always travelled and settled around the world. Many GREAT Scots.

Back to politics, I happen to agree with every word he sais about Blair. Blair IS an ar$ehole, and more people need to stand up and say it.

Good on ye Sean

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Lucifer,

Ayrshire 13/05/2007 20:24:23

Labour (The New Tories) fanboys are bitter, they cannot handle the fact that Scots are turning their back on The New Tories in their droves they refuse to deal in facts only in abuse

Saor Alba

Thig Ar Latha

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Sue DeNym,

Here, There & Everywhere 13/05/2007 20:32:41

Let's face it, he'll never come back to live in Scotland. He just says he will so the home media will listen to his rants. He's an actor, for heaven sakes! Why does anyone care what he has to say?

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Rebel,

South Carolina, USA 13/05/2007 21:14:07

To #294
Dear Mr. Wingate,
You are obviously a witty, intelligent and charming Canadian. I hope I can visit Canada before the North American Union does to Canada what the U.K. Union did to bonnie Scotland.

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Annlass,

Toronto,ON 13/05/2007 21:24:37

Why does Sean Connery make such a fuss over a knighthood, speacialy if Scotland gains independence. There are no titles here in Canada and when the media mogul Conrad Black was offered a peerage, the Canadian government told him that the only way he could accept it was to give up his Canadian citizenship. Lord Black as he is now did so, just like the other media baron Lord Thomson. So he will be known as Mr Connery in an independent nation and Sir Sean if he chooses to retain British citizenship and give up his Scottish nationalism. But all of this is academic, he has no intention of returning to Scotland as a permanent resident. He talks a good game!

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Annlass,

Toronto,ON 13/05/2007 21:31:25

To # 300 Rebel. Fear not, it will never happen.
I have it on good authority that Canada has no intention of taking over the United States, much as its citizens would love!

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Pilrig,

Livingston 13/05/2007 21:33:18

Boudica 291 - you're a hoot, hen. return Blighty to it's original Celtic-status ! I wonder whyn the bnp havenae thought of that ? !

Dinnae fash yersel though hen - Nu Lab will ensure oor WMDs remain at Faslane.

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Dennis,

North Isles 13/05/2007 21:43:35

#286 CD good post- thought provoking

#292 NL Typifying the SNP flaw that being a petro -economy will be a panacea for an Independent Scotland. 30 years ago it might have worked, but the world has moved on since then.
Since it cannot base its economy realistically now on the petro-dollar then it must choose between the British pound or the EURO. As other posters have repeatedly pointed out - major economic decisions about these currencies would remain outside Scotland. The SNP promises give-aways to all from the Scottish oil bonanza (since England would not be taking it all as the SNP accuse). Such activity, however, is likley to be stopped in its tracks by order of the Bank of England or the European Central Bank, since it would be unsustainable. The reason being that any shortfall of government spending beyond the oil economy and a low growth or stagnant rest of the economy - would result in consistent and large scale borrowing which would not be tolerated.

Economic growth is more about confidence and risk reduction than it is about short term mineral resources. If business investment has to choose between the promises of a political party which has no track record in actually running an economy - or the system (UK) it knows - then it is a 'no brainer'.

SNP supporters like Sean Connery hope to ride on a tide (which they first want to whip up) of nationalist emotion. These hopes are likely to be dashed on the rocks of economic reality.

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scotsdoc,

NANAIMO BC CANADA 13/05/2007 21:53:46

....Annlass, Toronto,ON / 10:24pm 13 May 2007
states the Canadian Govt. demands that now no Canadian citizen be given a British Honour without revoking his Canadian citizenship......Conrad Black etc..

OK.......but I am told that Canadians can accept French Honours with having to lose Canadian citizenship!! (A sop to the Parti Quebecois?)

Regardless of that, I think ultimately the Scots will benefit by being independent and being forced to survive without handouts(that they have already paid for in resources funnelled south over many years). If Iceland can survive, surely Scotland can? I can see the need for some population control and an opening up again of heavy industry fuelled by local coal and shale oil when(quite soon) imported supplies of oil and gas become too expensive and insecure.

Be prepared..Scotland cannot survive on Tourism and Whisky.

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Rebel,

South Carolina, USA 13/05/2007 22:34:22

To # 302
Dear Annlass: Touche' !

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wisdom,

edinburgh 13/05/2007 22:34:53

301...ah,but sir sean may be able to retain his knighthood in a 'so called independent Scotland'...the party he supports,the snp,is about the break up of Great Britain,having an independent parliament in Edinburgh,as it was pre 1707.There is no talk of breaking up the United Kingdom,or reversing the union of the crowns,1603.An independent Scotland could therefore be a monarchy with Elizabeth as queen.Sean would still have his knighthood and perhaps alex salmon would get his...Are the snp going to come clean on this?

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puskas,

East Kilbride 13/05/2007 22:36:56

Has Sean Connery said anything that is not true ?...


He is a Scot and entitled to his opinion like any other. I shall say again, has he said anything in his interview above that is wrong?.

Boudica and others seem to me to be very, very narrow minded with their silly submittions..

Scotland will be a prosperous country when independent.. The unionist fear factor has certainly got so some on this board...

Sean you have said only what a massive percentage of Scots said after the election ...

Tories, Lib Dem, Snp, and NuLabour voters have said similar things whether at work, shopping, sports

It surprises me that we have so much pish put forward on this site regards Sean. It seems we have a number of folk posting on here who probably didn't register their vote properly...

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wisdom,

edinburgh 13/05/2007 22:50:25

308....opinions are like assholes.everybodies got one,even Sean Connery

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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 13/05/2007 22:55:18

Oh dear, dear, dear. Such bile and venom. Such bad losers.

Watcher (what exactly do you watch? hope it's not willies.) The union of the crowns means old Liz 1 of Scotland is still the queen in these parts and knighthoods have nothing whatsoever to do with parliamentary affiliations unless you are Donald Dewar.

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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 13/05/2007 22:58:18

Scotland used to have trawlers - now it has trollers.
Another benefit of the union?

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wisdom,

edinburgh 13/05/2007 23:01:51

310....which is why sean and the snp are selling the scots a pig in a poke

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langtonian,

scotus 13/05/2007 23:18:21

In deliberately holding of till now,on the subject matter as expressed in S.O.S. vis-a-vis the article with the heading "Blair digging graves to make his legacy's offer firstly a minimalist resume of my working life in Scotland to add justification to my subsequent view's.
I have worked in the following cities and town's in Scotland, and in each place mentioned, take it as fact,in each case, a varying number of years,Kirkcaldy, then after two years R.A.F. National Service, Glasgow, Dunfermline,Perth, Inverness, Edinburgh,Newton Mearn's ,Leven, and finally Livingstone, retiring at the age of 71,and been in full employment all my working life having had to exit school at the age of 15,for economic necessity which existed at that point in time.The justification for the above is that Sean Connery while not exactly contempories are to all intents and purposes from a similar background, he being some 3Yrs. older than myself.I CONGRATULATE him on his carreer and life style,and his undoubted committment to Scotland good luck to him there.
However in matters political I claim to outgun him in being able to judge the current " mood of the country" because of my previouslly stated C/v.
The Facts are that two thirds of those voting in the recent election did NOT vote for the SNP. Which equates to only a 3/9 ratio, a substantial, and true reflection of the unpopularity that currently exists for their stated manifesto.
THE SNP is and always has and will be SEPERATISTS. that is at the heart of their reason for being.It is the root cause of their unpopularity.
Alec Salmond is an astute politician, but the vast majority of Non SNP supporters just do not trust him.He would " do his granny in" to get his hand's on the tiller of the good ship "Scotland". His pride at being an "Oil Economist"is in my opinion much over hyped,indeed his and all our grannies could qualify and be quite cable of being an "Oil Eco

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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 13/05/2007 23:24:54

314. I'd rather be a separatist than an imperialist.

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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 13/05/2007 23:26:27

But I am an autonomist - a dirty word according to imperialists

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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 13/05/2007 23:39:49

Autonomist. Not in my dictionary. SNP have that word on me.

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zigzag,

Tecusmeh Ontario 14/05/2007 00:16:50

My name is Blair, Tony Blair and I am licensed to kill.

My designation is 00Arsehole.

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zigzag,

Tecusmeh Ontario 14/05/2007 00:17:11

Beat that Bond

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zigzag,

Tecumseh Ontario 14/05/2007 00:18:53

Have you seen my gun Bl;air...Im Bond and I have a big gun you pansy

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scott 19 34,

paisley 14/05/2007 00:30:22

Well at least I know what I am getting with a pig in a poke. what’s in a lucky bag, doom and gloom.

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somerferg,

oz 14/05/2007 01:25:00

Good on ya Sir Sean you are right on the money about BLiar.

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Croman mac Nessa,

14/05/2007 05:12:32

Seàn Connery has paid taxes to the UK government, even recently, as has been reported in the pages of this very paper. Do none of you pay attention to things you don't want to hear? As for the accusation that he doesn't want to pay taxes, why is that even relevant? Most of you don't want to pay taxes either, and would gladly refrain from doing so if you could find a way to accomplish the same. Hypocrites!

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puskas,

East Kilbride 14/05/2007 05:58:19

Business's , Self employed with good accountants find ways around the tax man with many perks that are alian to most of us...

Maybe they should not get a vote or opinion? Well acording to some misplaced and mostly unionist tripe on here..

Nae wunder thir wis sae meny spoild votes in Scotland..

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watcher,

Edinburgh 14/05/2007 06:45:38

I watch wee arseholes like you Jock Thomson who actually go around talking to themselves. If Shir Shaun didn`t vote then stf up about talking politics in this country.

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puskas,

East Kilbride 14/05/2007 07:34:47

314 Langtonian

Thanks for your lifes history to present day ..

You claim to outgun him ( Sean Connery ) because of your previous stated c/v ..

I feel your c/v which is probably many times better than the average NuLabour and unionist voter due only to the many areas you have had a home in.
Lucky your movement in life tends to broaden ones personality and views . Well done and I congratulate you.

Never the less in general something in the brain waves have to be their in the first place.

By your argument Sean Connery as an example beats you hands down.
In other words " keys " as we would say in your young days " Giving up your lifes history means nothing in forming an opinion on this topic ".

Salmond would sell his granny?. lol, thats some point you make. Have you heard of Joke McFlannen, Wendy Alexander, Cathy Jamieson, Kerr, Baby Alexander, Tony Bliar, Brown, John Reid, Alistair Darling, John Prescott, Adam Ingram,
etc. etc. etc... Look into their past history and you'll find they didn't only sell their granny but the nation.
Lies, decete, scandals, and I really don't need to go on as others have tried to educate on here on these imposters. Its all been said.. Lib Dems I don't need bother.

It amazes me that those in power (UK 10 years, Scotland 8 years ) are everything you point out but you haven't said a dicky bird (thats an old one ) on their actions.

It seems to me that many on this board have much to say along your lines. I would advise you should all look nearer home to find the granny snatchers within the unionist parties before throwing bricks towards others.

Alex Salmond and Sean Connery " Great Haters ".. Your a comedian or worst.. What a slanderous remark.
GREAT LOVERS OF THEIR COUNTRY AND ALL OTHERS WORLDWIDE is not a crime, but an aim for an independant country. An aim that all Scots should cherish. Of course that includes England whe

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larhen1,

altrincham 14/05/2007 08:24:42

well said Sean. Blair is a war criminal, a liar and hopefully soon in the dock for the cash for peerages scandal.

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Mo Milan,

Milan Italy 14/05/2007 08:31:13

Don't tell me John Douglas from Edinburgh, who runs around various international golf courses, doesn't swear...just a wee bit. Anyway I'll come back to Scotland too when the weather changes, so I'll probably meet up with Sean..wherever he may be in the world ..he's one of us and we all love him..even if he swears...so does Billy Connelly and for that..............so do I. Give it to em Mr Salmond we've waited 300 years..so a few more won't make the difference.

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JohnC1944,

Stirling 14/05/2007 08:48:19

Blair's real legacy is one of disaster and despair.

In the news this morning it is reported that John Reid, the outgoing Home Secretary, is calling for the abolition of the current human rights act, one which he and Blair promoted for years.

Now that he is off, his judgement has all of a sudden become more in tune with the people he should have been serving rather than a labour party line he followed doggedly.

Another Blair legacy is the early release of paedophiles and the like.

Again in the news this morning, it is reported that a paedophile with 14 child sex convictions has had his second life sentence overturned on appeal. He will now be eligible for release in four years time.

How can Blair and his government be proud of this fact.

They have never served the people of this country, only their own selfish demands.

Another Blair achievement is the NHS. An NHS that cannot afford the life saving cancer drugs that will save or prolong many sufferers lives.

We now hear from Gordon Brown that he will introduce new ministerial codes for politicians, where has he been for the past ten years when the likes of Mandleson and Blunkett were using their status for their own personal gain.

If we ever become an Independent nation, I for one want all elected MPs and Councillors to be truly accountable to the people of Scotland.

Never again should we have to put up with the double standards and greed of some of the people we elect into power.

My understanding of good government is this, people with life threatening diseases should have immediate access to the best medicine and care available, without question and regardless of cost.

Our rights as law abiding citizens should be maintained and promoted in the face of terrorism and crime. It is the law abiding population who need the protection of government and courts and any human rights act that endangers these rights shoild be binned.

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Virgil,

Vancouver,BC 14/05/2007 09:01:18

#307 Wisdom, Edinburgh.
Not so should Scotland seek and gain full independence. The country may join the British Commonwealth of Nations, as Canada has, recognizing the Queen as its tituler head but with no constitutional powers. Canada has a Constitution which provides autonomy and rejects archaic titles. We have three levels of the Order of Canada inscribed in our two official languages,our military discarded the Imperial uniform design more than thirty years ago (our navy no longer dresses in 18th century clown suits) and all military insignia and decorations are singularly Canadian. We still retain out of courtesy the Victoria Cross as our highest military award but it is of a design much different from that of the UK. Sorry,but if Sir Sean likes the sound of the title his residency in Scotland is blowing in the wind, however if he chooses to become one of you then he will answer to MISTER Connery. Between you and me, he is too fond of the glitter, after all he bought and paid for it, and his heart is really in the Bahamas!

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boudica,

Glasgow 14/05/2007 09:01:20

I have had a good laugh on here and enjoyed the debate and find it amusing that all those that cry for Independence but still want to be part of the EU that it seems to me is a bit of an oxymoron wasnt that the basis and reasons for the Act of Union in the first place ie better trade deals etc . and someone mentioned we have a good French Connection, didnt the French let down Mary Queen of Scots and Bonnie Prince Charlie ???
237. Alec is a Numpty of the first order as when he realised that most in Scotland dont want to leave the Union he did a quick turn around and came out with the Comment " we can leave the union and if we want we can rejoin it later" I think it was deemed the " Hokey Cokey " Policy by some bright media person it proves once again what a " Chanty Rasstler " Alec is me think he suffers with Verbalitis Diaroheaus

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Dave M,

14/05/2007 10:01:05

314 Langtonian (Auchterarder?)

A very difficult post to read.

What is this nonsense about only 3/9 (1/3?) voting for the SNP?

That's how elections work.

When Blair was elected it was even less.

What percentage did your favoured party get?

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lia,

north-east england 14/05/2007 10:27:54

salmond is a arrogant tw-t, does he really think if scotland leaves the union, and things went pear shaped the union would take scotland back;LOL ALL DAY!

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scotnat1707,

14/05/2007 11:03:24

Does anyone know what's happened to the following Hootsmon postings boards personalities:

AM2, Royster, Duncan in Edinburgh, Dennis of The North Isles and all the other numptie diatribe authors?

I haven't seen them posting much lately and, indeed there seems to be absolutely nothing today. Has the New Labour Party in Scotland at last run out of money to fund its Rebuttal and Anti-Nat Postings Dept?

Nice to see that Tam has been telling the truth about Bliar and his coterie, but wouldn't it ave been a wee bit better if he had been a bit more vocal during the election campaign. Maybe he was, but the unionist press probably edited things out. Funny how The Hootsmon interviews him AFTER the election when his words are less dangerous to Unionism.

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lia,

north-east england 14/05/2007 11:05:52

this is not a game. if you want independence it's for keeps, you can't come crawling back too mummy.

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GD,

Glasgow 14/05/2007 11:24:21

Sean Connery may live in the Caribbean and it would be so easy for him to turn his back and forget about the existence of Scotland, but he never will because it's in his blood and his genes.
This is what it means to be a true Scot and something the Westminster parties still fail to grasp. Denying the referendum won't ever make it go away because independence is more than politics, it's in our blood, it's who we are.

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lia,

north-east england 14/05/2007 12:01:52

340.I think you will find it's not in everyones blood,some of your fellow country men want to stay in the union, shock horror, yep, alex's brain washing machine didn't get to everyone.

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GD,

Glasgow 14/05/2007 12:39:07

#342 And the MAJORITY of English want to break up the union too... how do you explain that?
Blaming Alex Salmond may be fashionable but I'm afraid it merely indicates a lack of understanding.

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lia,

north-east england 14/05/2007 12:46:57

343. most english folk didn't give it a second thought until salmond started shouting his mouth off.

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GD,

Glasgow 14/05/2007 13:08:25

#344 Shouting his mouth off?
Don't you mean exercising his democratic right to voice an opinion, which it just so happens the majority of the UK agree with?
Like I said, no amount of gagging or propaganda is going to make this issue go away!

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lia,

north-east england 14/05/2007 14:36:27

345, think you'll find the majority of people in the uk don't give a damn!

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John In US,

14/05/2007 14:43:17

Who cares what he says? He an ACTOR, and an uneducated one at that. His opinion is no more valid or invalid than any other man-in-the street. He gets to opine in a big Scotsman article ONLY because he is a celebrity! Celebrity worship even in Scotland! Shameless and sad.

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boudica,

Glasgow 14/05/2007 16:00:47

340
Where did you get and the majority of Scots and English want the UK to break up too ??
The SNP`s 47 seats isnt a Majority of Scots Labour 46, LibDems 16, Tories 17 , Greens 2.
79 against Independence
49 for Indepence
so that should tell even you that the majority in Scotland do not want Independence. It seems it is you whom lack the basic understanding of what the Majority want in Scotland and that is the Union or is that to simple for you to Grasp .

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Benny Mackin,

Western Australia 14/05/2007 16:13:08

Aye, your right 'John in the US'he's an actor, lucky man that he had the looks and the opportunity, good luck to him, but when I read he was upset because he'd been knocked back for the knighthood and then he eventually got it and ACCEPTED, I thought,"what a tosser"To me the guy is in it for what he can get, think, I don't think he needs money but he obviously enjoys the "celebre". Oh, sorry, ah don't live in Scotland anymore. Does that make me a traitor with no rights tae voice mah opinion. NAW Benny jeest say ye'll come back hame when we get home rule like the milkman said.
Bonny Scotland I adore ye, but ah'm no comin' hame an' Shir Shean's no comin' either. Lang may yer lum reek.

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John2,

Kent 14/05/2007 16:40:37

Rebel (290) Get up to date - a recent poll in Englands showed the majority of us English want Scotland to go their own way - it can't happen quick enough for us. We are not in any way worried as to the consequences - us 50 million will try to survive.
Good luck with your independence - don't let us down.

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Dave in Toronto,

Toronto Canada 14/05/2007 18:23:37

John 2 is right. According to The Toronto Star a poll last December revealed that 52% in Scotland and 59% in England were in favor of Scottish independence.

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lia,

north-east england 14/05/2007 18:32:49

Talk is cheap, I suggest when it came down to the nitty gritty it would be a differant story

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Burnes,

Oregon, USA 14/05/2007 19:19:15

Sean Connery lives in the Bahamas which is supposedly independent but yet lists Queen Elizabeth as the Monarch of The Bahamas.

From alba.org about Devolution:

'In the modern democratic world the sovereign right of self-determination for nations and peoples is proclaimed in the United Nations Charter and the commonly accepted principle of 'rule by consent'. Scotland's democratic rights have been eroded since the Treaty of Union with England, and constrained by the application of the English (not Scottish) constitutional principle of the 'sovereignty of the Crown in Parliament'. This has led to the UK's virtual elected dictatorship, and to violation of the Scottish constitutional principle of the sovereignty of the people.'

Sean rose to fame playing 007 an agent in her majesty's secret service. He wanted to be knighted by Elizabeth II. For anyone that knows anything about Scottish history they would know that Elizabeth I was responsible for the beheading of Mary Queen of Scots (also Queen of France and also an heir to the throne of England). Quite a grisly horror story you can read more about it on wikipedia.org under Mary Queen of Scots if you are so inclined.

Anyway one has to question his motivations since he will not commit to living and returning even part-time in Scotland. Does he want independence from England or just independence with Queen Elizabeth as Monarch still like in the Bahamas?

Speaking of those who write about currencies why do currencies have to have anyone's image? Why not use images from the Natural World like the thistle or birds or the Scottish Flag or standing stones etc...

There have also been surveys asking the English if they wanted to hold a referendum to vote out the Monarchy and a lot of them did. Scotland will not be truely independent until they vote out the Monarchy.

Just some thoughts from an educated (MPA, BA, USAF Captain in Intelligence) third generation Scottish American, proud mem

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Robert Burns,

Ocean Beach, San Diego, California, U.S.A. 14/05/2007 20:10:04

#338, scotnat1707, I had the realization that Blair is pronounced BLiar in gaelic and spanish (ae=I); it is only in English that the spelling needs to be altered to provide the true pronunciation.

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Virgil,

Vancouver,BC 14/05/2007 20:57:40

#353 Burnes from Oregon.
Referring to the closing sentence in your posted comment may I pose this question?
Good!
Are you patronizing, or appealing to other readers?
I am unaware of any regulation that requires or demands that one should post his/her cv and/or military rank in these columns.
Not being one for upmanship I hesitate to say....oh what the hell, let me say just for your information, I outclass and outgrade you in the world of academia and outrank you in uniform. Please, there is no need to stand to attention or salute.

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Burnes,

Oregon, USA 14/05/2007 21:33:16

#355 To Virgil from British Columbia a province of Canada which has a Federal Constitutional Monarchy under the Monarch Queen Elizabeth II and Royal Anthem of God Save the Queen per wikipedia the free encyclopedia....

I was just being informative....and the truth will set you free....Scottish Americans do so love their freedom of speech and since I am a citizen of the United States and was only a member of the military for 5 1/4 years I think I will take a pass on the stand to attention and the salute...


 

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