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Published Date: 10 May 2009
ALEX Salmond was last night attempting to extricate himself from the Westminster expenses scandal after it emerged that he had claimed £800 for food when the House of Commons was not sitting and was reimbursed for £1,633 he spent on a bed and linen.
The First Minister was forced to set out a detailed defence of his expenses after his claims were made public during the embarrassing row that has engulfed Cabinet members and other leading politicians at Westminster.

Public outrage over claims that politicians have their noses in a tax-free trough has been provoked by a series of revelations disclosing that ministers have claimed thousands of pounds of taxpayers' money on shopping sprees, security patrols and mortgages.

Salmond, who is the only MSP to also sit as an MP, was dragged into the controversy when examination of his receipts revealed that he was reimbursed £54.75 for towels, £540 for bed linen, £1,093 for a bed and bedding and £650.40 for curtains in 2005-6.

Embarrassingly, Salmond also claimed £800 for food in August and September 2005 even though Westminster was in recess at the time.

"Well, he was probably hungry" said Margo MacDonald, the independent MSP for Edinburgh. But she added: "The whole lot of them (MPs] really disgust and upset me. This whole thing undermines politics and politicians in general.

"It is almost inevitable that he has been dragged into this. All the parties are going to get embarrassing things found about them. It is beyond description."

Last night, one opinion poll showed that more than two- thirds of the public believe the scandals have directly hurt Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister.

Another poll revealed that 89 per cent of people believed that the reputation of parliament had been tarnished.

Mark Wallace of the Taxpayers' Alliance said: "There is no reason why the taxpayer should pick up the bill for Salmond's groceries whether he is in London or in his constituency. I think a lot of his constituents will expect him to pay some of this back. Failing that, there had better be a good explanation as to why the taxpayer should pay the bill."

Yesterday, Salmond tried to distance himself from the row by insisting that he had not broken any parliamentary rules and issued a detailed breakdown of his expenses claims.

The First Minister said the food claims were "entirely in accordance" with the rules of the "Green Book", the Commons' guide to members' allowances.

MPs can claim a maximum of £400 per month for food without having to produce receipts.

Salmond's spokesman said that MPs could go down to London during the break and are allowed to pursue claims for food during the recess. For 2005-6, Salmond claimed the maximum food allowance of £3,200.

In 2007-08, he took up his position as Scottish First Minister. Although he only voted on six days in the Commons, he still managed to claim £1,391.50 on food plus £360 on utility bills and cleaning.

In relation to the expenses claimed for a bed, curtains and bedding, Salmond said he was kitting out a rented property with a "second-hand job lot".

Salmond said: "I was furnishing a totally empty flat in London which was done in total for just over £2,000. The items claimed were in accordance with the Green Book."

At the time, Salmond was renting a flat in Pimlico. In December 2007 he said he "relinquished the lease on my rented flat at Dolphin Square as it was no longer proving a cost-effective use of public funds".

Salmond joined the chorus of Scottish politicians who believe that the Westminster expenses system would be less open to abuse if it followed the example of the Scottish Parliament and published claims every three months instead of every financial year.

"It is clear that, with the total mess Westminster finds itself in, the House of Commons should now follow the Scottish Parliament in publishing all expense figures for all MPs on a quarterly basis," Salmond said.

"This move to transparency is actually more important than the precise system of allowances the House of Commons chooses to adopt. When everything is finally published on a quarterly basis it will stop abuses and end the media frenzy around disclosure."

Salmond's Westminster expenses are in addition to the £80,224 salary he draws as First Minister plus the £64,766 that he earns as an MP.

Because he sits at both Westminster and Holyrood, he can only take one third of his £56,671 MSP's salary. He donates this money to a trust to help community groups near his two constituencies.

Commons expenses have proved problematic to first ministers in the past. One of Salmond's Labour predecessors, Henry McLeish, resigned from the top job after a mix-up over his office allowances.

Meanwhile, the Metropolitan Police was last night still considering whether it would investigate the leak that led to the publication of MPs' expenses.

The decision by the Commons' authorities to contact the police was criticised for deflecting attention from the expenses disclosures.

The police were called in when Malcolm Jack, the Clerk of the Commons, contacted Scotland Yard saying he believed there were "reasonable grounds to believe a criminal offence may have been committed".

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If he furnished an empty flat for £2000 the man's a hero.

The only 'engulfing' to have gone on, is the sweeping away of this paper's credibility in its idiotic headline. SOS is really desperate to be fixated on this when it appears that prominent MPs in other parties have been trying to claim over £3000 for 40 inch televisions, and some ScotLab nutjob tried to claim a £6000 finder's fee for the estate agent who found him his flat. And then there's the London property game profiteers> When can we expect an update on them?

BTW the most cursory examination of Hansard would reveal that the number of days on which members vote is substantially less than the number of days on which the House sits. If he's voted on six days, I'll wager that he's been there a good bit more than that.

The Commons sometimes goes the best part of a week without a vote, particularly at the moment when the government has run out of steam, and is filling parliamentary time with endless meaningless Opposition Days(hence the general astonishment over the Gurkhas vote), and pointless general and topical debates, usually played out before a virtually empty chamber.
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Jimmy Le Pie,

10/05/2009 00:26:05
Excellent story in the Mail on Sunday,

"The row over MPs' expenses intensified last night as it was revealed that the parliamentary finance chief who signs off their claims had no formal accountancy skills - and that he feared he would be sacked when he warned the Commons Speaker the system was being abused.
Andrew Walker, who runs the Commons Fees Office responsible for MPs' wages and expenses, told Speaker Michael Martin more than five years ago that he must act to curb excessive claims. But Westminster sources say the Speaker told him not to meddle, and 'punished' him by refusing to speak to him for weeks at a time.
It is understood that Mr Walker felt he could be dismissed from his £125,000-a-year job as director general of resources at the Commons after issuing the warning."

read the whole article @

http://tinyurl.com/qffonp
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kirk 1,

10/05/2009 00:27:29
Pay the food bill back Alex.
It's wrong.
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11 Hi Wardog my preferred option is that we just get rid of this nonsense by not sending any MP's to Westminster.

It would be a clearing out of the Augean Stables that would defeat Hercules to sort it all out.

In the mean time I would like to see the SNP adopt the same attitude as Sinn Fein quite honestly, I don't want to hear about them claiming for food and duvet covers.

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TheUnionisBritish,

10/05/2009 00:34:05
from elsewhere - I wonder if our Dr Death will put up their expenses:

CHANCELLOR ALISTAIR Darling is one of four senior Scottish MPs who are claiming tens of thousands of pounds of public money for designated "second homes" despite renting out other flats in London.

The others - John Reid, the former home secretary, Charles Kennedy, formerly the leader of the Liberal Democrats, and government whip Tommy McAvoy - have been accused of claiming the taxpayer-funded perk at the same time as having their own personal property portfolio. Campaigners have stepped up their calls for the expenses regime at Westminster to be overhauled.

Under the Additional Costs Allowance (ACA), most MPs can claim up to £22,110 a year for staying away from their main home while on parliamentary business. MPs can use the perk to pay for hotel costs, rent, or mortgage interest - the latter can be used on a home in London or in their constituency. Darling was criticised last week after it emerged he had charged the taxpayer £70,000 in ACA after designating his £1 million family home as his "second house".

It has now emerged that Darling, Reid, McAvoy and Kennedy are claiming the second home perk while at the same time acting as landlords on properties in the capital.

Darling, who lives in Downing Street rent-free and bills the public for staying in his Edinburgh home, also owns a flat in London with his wife Maggie. His entry in the MP's Register of Members' Interests states the flat is "presently let", but no rental is declared.

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Iainbroch,

10/05/2009 00:35:11
I am not surprised to see SoS rushing to try and nail Salmond. I guess he will just have to submit a £25,000 claim for some private security now?

Note nothing about Marshalls excessess - no surprise there either.

Well I thougt they were going to come up with something really big but for all thier miserable raking Peterkin and co have failed miserably. The Gordfather and sidekick Alistair will be most displeased. Its the Gulag for you Peterkin if this is all that you can come up with.

Nothing compared to the £750 Billion bill and growing that we will all face for Broonies extravagance!

Whats the bet that Salmond will still be around when Broonie is just a tiny wee footnote in Political history. The very Last Labour Party priminister of the penultimate UK Parliament.
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10/05/2009 00:37:21
#5 - All for a job they do not do !!!!

The Sunday Telegraph also reported that Sinn Fein MPs have claimed nearly £500,000 in Commons expenses for running a second home - despite not taking up their seats in the House.

Since second home expenses figures were first published in 2001-02, the five MPs claimed £437,405 in second home expenses in total.

Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness, Michelle Gildernew, Pat Doherty and Conor Murphy each claimed £21,000 in the last financial year under the Additional Cost Allowances system, which is just short of the maximum.

Last month it emerged Sinn Fein's MPs claimed a total of £662,660 of taxpayer-funded allowances in 2007/2008.

Expenses -2007/08: Gerry Adams MP claimed - £137,943
Expenses-2007/08 -Martin McGuinness MP - £136,236
etc etc

Sinn Féin MPs do not take their seats in Parliament.
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edinburgh 10/05/2009 00:37:45
Does seem strange. Going to London when parliament is in recess and claiming £400 a month for food.
Even if parliament wasn't in recess why do we have to pay for MP's food ? And saying it was all in accordance with the green book beggars belief. Claiming £3,200 a year for food is disgusting Alex. Especially when we pay for your housing and bedding etc and gave you a good wage.
Some MP's claim nothing at all in expenses so it shows what a letdown Alex has shown himself to be.
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For days I have posted that this was not a party Political matter and have suffered the Nats saying, we don't do it. It is a natural human corruption of people in power. Nationality and polotical affiliation do not matter.
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10/05/2009 00:41:08
35 Doctor Death. It won't be the cleaner's bill that gets him it will be the flat now owned by his wife that will see him done for.
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JC1,

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Lets have no more sanctimonious cant from salmond about westminster.
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JC1,

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remember he was all set ot go off to a golf tournamwnt whn the credit crunch broke
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Glasgow 10/05/2009 00:47:59
52 Call girls ? Is that what you call political debate ? I mean seriously Rufus that is rubbish.

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10/05/2009 00:48:10
I'm sure if Wee Eck really wanted to he could have milked westmidden for a whole lot more than the tiny
sum mentioned here.
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JC1,

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So he claimed for food allowance when parliament was not even sitting.
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Glasgow 10/05/2009 00:49:44
54 OK OK you are going for the Scotsman's award for best comic poster of the year.

The red carpet awaits !

You deserve it my dear - Congragulations.
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JC1,

Glasgow 10/05/2009 00:50:14
Alex- oink oink!
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Jimmy Le Pie,

10/05/2009 00:50:53
Defrauding the taxman is a criminal offence!!

And another nice little snippet from The Observer,

Looks like HMRC are looking into tax fraud!!

In a separate development, Sir Alistair Graham, the former chairman of the committee on standards in public life, describes the behaviour of the home secretary, Jacqui Smith, as "near-fraudulent" in relation to her expense claims.

Smith registered the house she shared with her sister in south London as her primary residence, allowing her to claim the parliamentary allowance of up to £24,000 for her family home in Redditch, Worcestershire, where her husband and children live.

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FerryPort,

10/05/2009 00:51:37
charley boy

how would i know the going rate?

what kind of girl do you take me for?

too much excitement charles
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JC1,

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didn't know about the Barca match -so he took off to see a footballmatch under the guise of official business?
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Iainbroch,

10/05/2009 00:52:04
re52

What do you charge? Then we double it for London or is that treble it?
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JC1,

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I think it's only the beginning
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Edward,

10/05/2009 00:54:38
I see the usual suspects ie Doctor Death and Rufus trying to make something of not much
Clutching at straws comes to mind.
Alex Salmond was probably wrong to claim for food and bedding, but he was following the laid down proceedures in the Green Book.
What he did not do was put in some of the obscene expenses that the Labour MP's have been doing like £ 25,000 by Barbara Follet, wife of Millionaire Ken Follet for security as 'she felt unsafe' in London! or the Chimney Sweep bill for nearly £ 600 to have chimneys swept at the Follet's London home, even allthough the heating is all Gas! or the changing of main homes as the likes of Blears has done (4 times) and Darling in order to milk the system
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10/05/2009 00:55:36
#37 - John Prescott certainly likes food. He claimed the maximum £4800 a year for groceries.May 10, 2009

Work and Pensions Secretary James Purnell has charged the taxpayer up to £400-a-month for his groceries. Mr Purnell's claims for food have totalled £9,094 in the past five years.12th April 2009

Under the rules, MPs can spend up to £400 a month on groceries.
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Am Fògarrach,

10/05/2009 00:56:08
Tom Peterkin's article is not bad, but the headline writer sensationalised it. Typical for Scotsman headline writers.
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77 No he isn't perfect, and he will need to be a lot more clever in the future, but on a scale of one to ten this rates as a problem, about 0.05 really.

People know that Eck eats.
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karin.m,

10/05/2009 00:58:57
any word yet on the former MP for glasgow easts expenses???
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Jimmy Le Pie,

10/05/2009 00:59:02
Dead Doc,

The other petition is standing at 55731

The site has been down for a day which I believe is Alex Salmond's fault!

Here is the link, especially for you Doc,

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/please-go/
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Am Fògarrach,

10/05/2009 01:00:10
#47 Charles Linskaill:

Why do you want to know. You probably wouldn't be able to perform if you had the money.
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Castaway™ ,

10/05/2009 01:01:18
#16 -Charles Linskaill - More the likes, female company perhaps?

At least two Labour backbenchers are thought to have had extra-marital affairs with other MPs which are about to be exposed.

They are believed to have shared hotel rooms during annual party conferences and away days then double-claimed for the accommodation on expenses

If both HAVE claimed they will be exposed as fraudsters as well as love cheats.

NOTW - 10 May 2009
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JC1,

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new nat slogan , not "We've got what it takes" but
"We'll take what you've got" . oink oink!
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... Ma hoose 10/05/2009 01:03:04
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"That's £8 more than my bottom line for a month's work..."

Too much information Rufus. At this time on a Sunday morning I'd rather not think about the state of your bottom after a month's work
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JC1,

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#81 so he's commenting on the internal politics of another country, in an area which has seen murder and bloodshed, and which is trying to reach its own solution. And his reason is?
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karin.m,

10/05/2009 01:07:08
whats more disgusting

1. an mp claiming 5p for a carrier bag

2. an mp claiming for a cleaner

3. an mp claiming for security or nappies or blouses or food?

4.an mp who is going to sue because a newspaper printed the details of their expenses?

im going with 4
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Jimmy Le Pie,

10/05/2009 01:07:18
Well one thing is for sure.

All you unionists can all rabbit drivel, but the Scottish people know a good politician in Alex Salmond!!!

Alex Salmond would win his Westminster seat if there was a by-election next week.

Alex Salmond would win his Holyrood seat if there was a by-election next week.

It looks unlikely a single New Labour Sleaze bottom feeder would win a seat!!!

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He calls catalonia a nation, and tries to ' encourag[e] the sharing of expertise, best practice and programming between BBC Alba and the Catalan television channel, TV3'

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82 - fair point! He does like his food. But he also knows a hello of a lot more about its production, the farming and fishing and Scottish food industries, than most other MP/MSPs. And that (I come from a farming background) is a hard constituency to win.

But yes the bill is unfortunate though given what it will cost in London to eat out for two, and he was a party leader after all... it's not nose in the trough stuff like we see from others.

What about the Blairs - greed personified!!

I'm just really dismayed at this paper being so negative. Maybe the Telegraph will buy it?
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100 All of them. And you forgot the tampons. Man, that is surreal. I only have a period in my second home. Yeah right.
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JC1,

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#100 what's more disgusting? salmond with his snout in the trough, (literally it seems) or the nats trying to defend him
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Iainbroch,

10/05/2009 01:12:40
I am so underwhelmed by this article all I can think of at this moment is ELECTION

BRING IT ON !!!! BRING IT ON!!! BRING IT ON!!!!
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Jimmy Le Pie,

10/05/2009 01:13:02
All unionists,

Read this and weep!!


"The MPs' expenses scandal has helped to drive support for Labour to the lowest level since opinion polls began in 1943, a devastating new survey has revealed."
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Edward,

10/05/2009 01:14:59
I hear two Labour MP's are considering Legal action against the Telegraph. To borrow Clint Eastwoods famous saying as the character Dirty Harry, 'Go on punk, make my day!'
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karin.m,

10/05/2009 01:15:20
it is not the expenses or anything else that leads the public to view polticians with mistrust it is the failure of the party political system that encourages MPs to be greedy and to fail their constituents.

it is time we had a party that consisted of independents with no whips to be elected to westminster and the scottish parliament.

its time that politics truly represented the people instead of people representing their party..
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trump
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10/05/2009 01:16:56
107 roger how did you get those hancuffs and bindings off you naughty boy....
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JC1,

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#112 give it up, or explain where eck's food bill came from
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Fred Leeson,

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#78 Ed
Sorry but just because something is in a green book doesn't make it right. Some MP's thought that being allowed to claim a max of £3,200 a year for food and £1,000 for a bed didn't mean you had to make sure you claimed for that maximum. Even George Galloway is totally in the clear. He claimed nothing yet could have taken the £3K for food , money for linen, bed, plasma telly etc.
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Edward,

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My money (honestly earned) is that the member for Edinburgh South was enjoying the company of a female MP or MP's wife , allegedly.
My hunch is based on a story circulating around that the expenses will through up some intereting daliances between 2 MP's, who are known to have attended a conference, shared a Hotel, but put in the same expenses
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Edward,

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#117 Fred Leeson
Not justifying the Green Book at all, just pointing out that there are far far worse expenses have been put in such as that of John Prescott, for 2 loo seats, mock tudor wood moulds for his house an £ 8400 for food
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#78 "Alex Salmond was probably wrong to claim for food and bedding, but he was following the laid down proceedures in the Green Book."

That is effectively the same excuse that every other MP whose been caught with their hand in the till has used. They all claim to have done nothing wrong and followed the rules (rules which the MPs wrote). So the only thing we can say is the great leader is as sleazy as the rest of them. No wonder his Holyrood expenses are spot on as he's been topping them up with his Westminster "allowances"
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Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 01:27:36
Meanwhile over on the Times...

Brown Set for Election Wipeout..


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6256702.ece
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Edward,

10/05/2009 01:30:20
Michael Martin, has delivered an outburst against his critics who are demanding reform of parliamentary pay and expenses.
Martin, a former sheet metal worker and shop steward, told a senior MP: “I have been a trade unionist all my life. I did not come into politics not to take what is owed to me.”
About say is all really!
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Fred Leeson,

edinburgh 10/05/2009 01:31:05
#123 Ed
Even claiming a penny in dubious circumstaces because everyone else is at it is wrong. Or maybe I'm old fashioned.
I had the naive view that Alex was above all this but have been woken up. He's just a trougher like the rest of them and I'll never vote SNP again while he is in charge.
Unless of course he pays back the money and apologises for his greed.
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 01:32:07

Ok! since we have no answers to question @#47,

Tell me this!, what was going-on, in Salmonds bedroom department, for £1,633? (re: article)

More than linen and a bed, if you ask me!, and his smile says mountains!



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Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 01:32:49
£400 is nada compared with :

Peer claimed £130,000 for mother’s bungalow

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6256710.ece
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Edward,

10/05/2009 01:33:34
#124 Cracker06
Actually you'll find that it was Alex Salmond and the SNP who were at the forefront of having a clearere and more transparent expenses regime in Holyrood, despite some Labour MSP's wanting to copy the Westminster model
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Iainbroch,

10/05/2009 01:35:01
Which MPs voted against disclosing thier expenses? Is that the sound of trolls squirming?
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Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 01:36:06
Edward.. The same slime ball that tried to block
FOI via the court (a cool £200.000)of taxpayers money, trying to keep their greed under wraps..


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10/05/2009 01:37:14
http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2507208.0.westminster_asks_holyrood_for_expenses_advice.php
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Brianwci,

10/05/2009 01:37:50
No doubt every opposition politician who is anybody in Westminster will have his or her collar felt but any 'stretching' of the rules by them will pale into insignificance compared to London Labour's blatant 'Milking the System' which all but a few of them seem to have down as an art form.

If they weren't doomed before the Torygraph got into top gear they are doomed now. Luckily for them there is almost 4 weeks between now and the elections and not 4 days. It may allow them to save a few seats up and down the country.
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Edward,

10/05/2009 01:39:15
#135 Beachcomber
Can you elloborate or is that it?
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Edward,

10/05/2009 01:49:28
Margaret Moran switched the address of her second home, allowing her to claim £22,500 to fix a dry rot problem

Ben Bradshaw used his allowance to pay the mortgage interest on a flat he owned jointly with his boyfriend

Phil Woolas submitted receipts including comics, nappies and women's clothing as part of his claims

Barbara Follett used £25,000 of taxpayers' money to pay for private security patrols at her home

Barry Gardiner made £198,500 profit from a flat funded and refurbished at taxpayers' expense.
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Edward,

10/05/2009 01:51:10
Pressure is growing on Martin, 63, to confirm that he will retire after the general election, expected to be held next year. Some MPs are concerned that far from preparing to leave the £141,866-a-year job, Martin wants to continue in office indefinitely.

One MP warned that there may be a bid to unseat Martin in the autumn. “We handed him the bottle of whisky and the revolver, but he appears to have thrown away the gun and drunk the whisky,” the MP said.

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subrosa,

10/05/2009 01:53:39
I'm looking forward to the Scottish labour MPs details, particularly those of Eric Joyce. Should make interesting reading.
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Jimmy Le Pie,

10/05/2009 01:57:39
#146 subrosa,

David Marshall, disgraced former Glasgow East MP, must be looking forward to see his claims plastered all over the front pages!!

I am!
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Jimmy Le Pie,

10/05/2009 02:01:55
Looks like Comrade Darling is being set up as fall guy for Comrade Broon's utter incompetance!

Ed Ballocks tipped for Chancellor!!

Will that be IF he survives the expenses scandal??

From the Telegraph,

"Mr Brown is almost certain to make substantial changes shortly after June 4, when Labour is expected to perform badly in European and local elections. He is considering whether to make Mr Darling home secretary in place of Jacqui Smith. Her reputation has several perceived gaffes, most recently over the decision to restrict the rights of some former Gurkhas to remain in Britain.

If Mr Darling was moved, sources said, the new Chancellor was likely to be either Ed Balls, the Children's Secretary; David Miliband, the Foreign Secretary; or Alan Johnson, the Health Secretary. The source said: "Alistair will have had two of the toughest years one could possibly imagine as Chancellor. There is a case to be made for saying he has taken the tough decisions in the Budget and, as far as possible, set us on the road to recovery."
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Edward,

10/05/2009 02:05:15
#150 Jimmy Le Pie
Its called moving the deckchairs around as the ship slowly sinks
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Jimmy Le Pie,

10/05/2009 02:08:08
#151 Edward,

Aye you're right.

Great entertainment though!!

Will Comrade Broon announce his cabinet reshuffle using You Tube I wonder???
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Castaway™ ,

10/05/2009 02:11:17
Food Glorious Food or Food for Thought.

John Prescott - £4,800 - Maximum food allowance for 04-05 and 06-07:: £3,200
And ex-Deputy PM John Prescott claimed £16,000 for food over four years, apparently without supplying a single receipt.
James Purnell MP has charged the taxpayer up to £400-a-month for his groceries. Mr Purnell's claims for food have totalled £9,094 in the past five years, he tried to claim £475 a month on his groceries, but this was rejected.
Geoff Hoon MP- The then Defence Secretary often claimed £400 a month for groceries consumed at his Derbyshire home.
Miss Blears MP - initially claimed the maximum £400 a month for groceries.
Phill Woolas MP -he had filed receipts along with claims for groceries at his second home.
Paul Murphy MP made regular claims for food, often between £200 and £300 every month.His expenses claim for the year to March 2008 included a groceries bill of £2,806.
Alistair Darling MP-£300 a month - Food.
Peter Mandelson - £450 for two months - Food.
By 2005-06 the then deputy prime minister (Prescott) £2,882 food claim had been overtaken by Sir Ming Campbell's £3,700. By then Beckett claimed £2,520, Brown £2,385 and Osborne £2,300.
"Binge eating" claims are also common, with some MPs claiming the maximum £400 a month food allowance all year.

Note:- This means some MPs also claiming the £400 a month food allowance during the Parliamentary recesses ?
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GONNYNODEATHAT,

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Oh Dear, Salmond is just like the rest of the Pigs in the Trough. He drank whiskey from his fridge and tried to cover it up with orange juice. How pathetic. I for one am DEMANDING a GERERAL ELECTION. Some people here are pathetic with there replies . These Politicians are a Scourge to the people. They make the people carry a Heavy Load. They need NEED HORSED out of their positions. None of them are prepared to Listen to the People no mater what party they belong too.
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Robbie 2,

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142 Edward
“Four of Gordon Brown's ministers are exposed for milking the parliamentary MPs' expenses system.”
Yep, Edward all true and here’s but one link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5298065/MPs-expenses-Four-ministers-who-milked-the-system.html

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2Right,

On Location 10/05/2009 02:25:14
£1,633

Someone on benefits would be lucky to get this to furnish their entire House.

This is absolutely shocking.

Mr Darling is no better with his clain for one set of drawers at £1.400.

Time someone done something about them.

Wonder what Kenny Macaskill's bill is like.

One MP even claimed for Tampax and it was a man which makes it worse.

I fail to see how Tampax comes under any job desciption for a male, never mind female.

What other job has ever allowed such expenses claims ?
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Jimmy Le Pie,

10/05/2009 02:25:32
Charles,

Would it not be better for you to learning to spell BEFORE you come on here and write such utter rubbish??

And what on earth do you do when you're 'bulling'??

Did you see this in Jacqui Smith's blue movies??
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Iainbroch,

10/05/2009 02:25:57
To settle everything once and for all - LETS JUST HAVE AN ELECTION.

I dont think Oink Broonie and his WestMidden pals will let us have one though. But then the timing does not suit he must at least wait for the holidays so they can fiddle the postal votes on the scale required.
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Edinburgh 10/05/2009 02:29:13


Jimmy Le Pie ~163,

The SNP have become ridiculous, you Know it, I know it, and the Next Votes Will Show it!


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Steve A.,

10/05/2009 02:31:11
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LOL.... That was without doubt the most desperate post i have seen in a long time !
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Iainbroch,

10/05/2009 02:31:45
re 165

BRING IT ON!!!! BRING IT ON!!!!

Your bluff is being called!
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Steve A.,

10/05/2009 02:33:00
talking about post 158 jimmy
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 02:33:01


ridiculous
[r?'d?kj?l?s]

adjective

worthy of or exciting ridicule; absurd, preposterous, laughable, or contemptible,
From Latin ridiculosus, from ridere to laugh

? ridiculously adverb

? ridiculousness noun

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 02:38:18

Steve A ~171,

Maybe if I was on the "Glue", the SnP would make more sense, but I dont mind reality hurting, unlike you!


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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 02:42:52


IndependentlyInclined ~174,

Think what you like!, obivously for you the Truth Hurts!

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 02:44:46

Jimmy Le Pie ~175,

Very Funny, and ,,'Until-the-next-Time'!

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Steve A.,

10/05/2009 02:44:59
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oooooooh!ouch ...your so cutting with your remarks Charles.

That hurt Charles !
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 02:46:58


Steve A ~178,

Sorry!

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GONNYNODEATHAT,

Glasgow 10/05/2009 02:48:30
Hi DEAFY, Oh Dear, Salmond is just like the rest of the Pigs in the Trough. He drank whiskey from his fridge and tried to cover it up with orange juice. How pathetic. I for one am DEMANDING a GERERAL ELECTION. Some people here are pathetic with there replies . These Politicians are a Scourge to the people. They make the people carry a Heavy Load. They need NEED HORSED out of their positions. None of them are prepared to Listen to the People no mater what party they belong too.
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Shape to Shoot,

10/05/2009 02:56:29
Salmond is such a hypocrite....the ones that rail the loudest about other peoples' shortcomings often turn out to be so.
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Steve A.,

10/05/2009 03:06:13
Labour's popularity has slumped to its lowest level since polling began amid a series of scandals and renewed speculation over Gordon Brown's leadership, it has been claimed.

More MPs' expenses add to Brown's pain
From manure to dry rot, expenses row dogs Brown
Cleaning bill leaves new stain on Brown

Research for the Mail on Sunday found the party's support had dropped three points over the past month to just 23 per cent - even lower than when Michael Foot was at the helm in the 1980s.

I think cyclops would swap his probs for Alex's probs any day of the week.
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Charles Linskaill,

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IndependentlyInclined ~181,

Listen, and listen well!

I am not attacking "Salmonds physical attributes".

I am trying to get across, that Polices of stupidities, are not the way forward to lead Scotland to Independence, and I find it on a comical note that Salmond claimed expenses on the tax payers expense, for a bed worth £500 and a few sheets worth a tenner, where did the other £1,123 go? Answer me that?, hence the 'Female entertainment', maybe?

It is not a responsible attitude for the ones that lead our Country, do you agree?

Never mind attacking Me!, read between my lines and think!

I only post the way I see it, and it is, I have no preferences for political matters, wither it be Brown our the 'Mad-Raven-Loony-Party', any of them do a idiocy, I will make comment to show it.



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Jimmy Le Pie,

10/05/2009 03:11:40
GONNYNODEATHAT,

How come you say you're from Glasgow??

Whisky is the correct spelling.

The Irish and the Yanks spell it whiskey.

Visit the adult learning classes with Chick and JC1!!

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Steve A.,

10/05/2009 03:45:05
Brown the most unpopular PM since polling began - and half want him to quit now.

The MPs' expenses scandal has helped to drive support for Labour to the lowest level since opinion polls began in 1943, a devastating new survey has revealed

The onionist nightmare is appearing before their very eyes ......is it any wonder their posts look so desperate?



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Jimmy Le Pie,

10/05/2009 03:52:18
#191 Rock Lobster,

Superb post.

That'll have cost the SNP at least 10% in the next opinion poll.

You should get a job with New Labour Sleaze and Corruption as a research assistant to Iain Gray!

With you're combined intellects you'd be equal to a lobster(cooked!)
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The Kids Are Alright,

10/05/2009 03:54:45
To be fair on the bed expenses, a normal one wouldn't do for him.

Needs to get one of those "made to measure" jobs imported Sweden, which is one of the few places that still makes them.

Bit pricy, but hand wound springs are said to be the best in Europe
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Jimmy Le Pie,

10/05/2009 03:58:48
I see from the Sunday Times that New Labour Sleaze aren't doing too well!! Looks like the Monster Raving Loony Party could beat them in next months elections!!!

It might be all this sleaze but on the other hand it could be the standard of posts on here by the party faithfull!!!

"An analysis for The Sunday Times by Colin Rallings and Michael Thrasher, the election experts, shows Labour is trailing the Liberal Democrats as well as the Tories as it heads into the June 4 elections in 34 English local authorities. "
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The Kids Are Alright,

10/05/2009 04:07:35
As they say, he made his bed and now he has to lie in it
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cummontator,

10/05/2009 04:10:42
this is a daft story how many hundred LAbour MPs claimed £400 for same months????

just silly
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Steve A.,

10/05/2009 04:12:26
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Welcome to the quality of Scotland on Sunday.
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Jimmy Le Pie,

10/05/2009 04:14:49
Cooked Lobster,

I'm sure the Sleaze Party will keep you right on fiddling your expenses.

You don't want to use plastic - too easily traced.

Use cash and get blank receipts.

Then get someone to fill them in for you (preferably someone who can write!)

If you are queried just start wittering on about being no fairly right.

No one would question that assertion!

That's all that there is to it.

PS

Mind and claim 5p for every carrier bag you get!

Onwards the Empire!
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The Kids Are Alright,

10/05/2009 04:15:52
#199

But they are liekable characters
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terry osser,

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how much did salmond (and others) receive for relinquishing the lease at dolphin square. was it decared? tax paid? was it in register of interests
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Clartmonkey,

...Ma Hoose 10/05/2009 05:44:17
"Tell me this!, what was going-on, in Salmonds bedroom department, for £1,633? (re: article)..."

Let me just translate that into English:

"Tell me this! What was going on in Salmond's bedroom department for 1,637?"

Actually, kitting a rented flat our for two grand is pretty good going. Buying a second-hand bed is fair enough, but nobody would expect you to sleep in second-hand bedding.

I found myself looking at a set of sheets in Oxfam the other day and thinking "Who would be disgusting enough to buy a pair of sheets that Charles Linksaill's been entertaining his clients in?" (The black faux-sateen with red lace trim was a bit of a giveaway)

Then I thought: "Of course! Rufus...)
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Clartmonkey,

...Ma Hoose 10/05/2009 05:55:59
Seriously, there must have been some long faces around the Torygraph as they went through their investigation.

Given their obsessive hatred of Scottish independence (it's noticeable that the biggest troughsnouters of all, Scottish Labour MPs, are obligingly granted immunity from exposure) I don't doubt that SNP expenses got the most thorough scrutiny of all the major parties.

There must have been loud groans of despair when the 'worst' they could come up with was Salmond's food bill, a second-hand bed, and the bedding to go on it.
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The Kids Are Alright,

10/05/2009 05:58:24
#206


"I found myself looking at a set of sheets in Oxfam the other day "


How many hours of your community service still to go?
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Phil C,

10/05/2009 06:20:45
We must not be deflected away from Labour's incompetent and dangerously dishonest governance.
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Phil C,

10/05/2009 06:37:52
#215 The Col

It's the way ya tell 'em!
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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 06:38:12
__________Sleaze has a new daddy!__________

__________Alex Salmond is the Sleazemeister!!!__________
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The Kids Are Alright,

10/05/2009 06:40:57
What does the sign above Salmond in the photo say?

Can't quite make it out...
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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 06:41:14
Good morning naughty naughty natties!!!

>>>>>>>>>>Sleaze has a new daddy!<<<<<<<<<<

>>>>>>Alex Salmond is the Sleazemeister<<<<<<
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Phil C,

10/05/2009 06:52:08
Alex' expenses seem quite reasonable conpared to most of Labour's serial abusers. He's maybe touched by the expeses row, but certainly not 'engulfed' as this oh so SNP-friendly paper states!
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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 06:54:45
So Salmond's MP Expense claims (remember, he has only been there 6 times in 2 years);

* £13,988.98 in rent for a flat in Westminster

* £84,664.94 for his parliamentary staff

* £476 toilet repair for his busted flush

* £18,591.34 Incidental expenses

* £1,480.80 Travel Expenses

* £2,081.85 Travel for his staff

* £293.50 Travel expenses for his wife

* £399 Savile Row Pin Stripe Sopranos Suit for FMQ

* £2,221.84 communication allowance

* £1,017.37 for stationery

* £4,768.25 for postage

* £11.99 for a Sandi Thom CD

* £1,255.46 for computing

All for a job he does not do.
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The Kids Are Alright,

10/05/2009 06:56:48
#222

He has clearly shown that he is on the greasy pole
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Phil C,

10/05/2009 06:57:44
Yes botox, we've seen that. Quite reasonable for someone with staff in Stinksville, Englandshire.
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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 07:00:15
PhilC, 225:

are you trying to defend the indefensible, Phil?

Snouts....trough....all OK by you?
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Mareng,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 07:00:29
Every MP interviewed, talks about "moving forward" and "providing transparency" in a new system...........

Sod that! Most of the general public want prosecutions, fines and repayment of their gains.

Al
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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 07:09:36
>>>>>>>>>>Sleaze has a new daddy!<<<<<<<<<<

>>>>>>Alex Salmond is the Sleazemeister<<<<<<

All hail Scotland's new king of sleaze!!!!!!
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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 07:11:31
PhilC, 225

Do you think the Sleazemeister will resign over this?

Or would that require more integrity than the Sleazemeister can muster?
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Phil C,

10/05/2009 07:18:23
#226 BOTOM

I am defending the expenses of a party leader and Scotland's FM from attack by a biased newspaper and some daft eejits on here.

Salmond, by necessity, operates mainly from Scotland, but still represents his constituents at Troughminster.

Labour's sleazy ministers, who juggle their 'second, third,fourth.... properties' for persoanal gain are the real culprits. Any venom should be concentrated on Labour's lying, cheating and catastrophic bad government, rather than Alex' or others trivial expenses.
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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 07:22:40
PhilC, 235:

LOL! I guess you're entitled to try to defend the Sleazemeister, PhilC - that's your prerogative.

I hope you'll understand if those of us with morals take a different view.

Work it out for yourself:

trough
fat
Alex
caught
snout
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Phil C,

10/05/2009 07:26:36
#236 BOTOM

I'm wasting my time. Away and wipe yourself!
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Steve,

Bo'ness 10/05/2009 07:27:07
Well it's no surprise that amongst the huge stinking pile of Labour sleaze and corruption, this newspaper would seek to paint Salmond in a bad light, is it?

He claimed for food and some bed linen. Wow. I assume every MP has claimed for something.

But unlike Labour's grubby mob, he RENTED acommodation and didn't seek to profit from multiple second home allowances and dodgy property deals. And he only claims 1/3 of his Holyrood salary which he gives to charity!!

Nice attempts at deflection guys, but it just wont wash. Labour's only defence: smear Salmond.



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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 07:30:47
Steve, 239:

Can I summarise your position?

Labour sleaze: bad, evil, wicked, greedy, unacceptable
Tory sleaze: no comment
SNP sleaze: reasonable claims, deflection, smear.

Reality:

Big trough. Lots of fat greedy snouts. All parties.

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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 07:31:33
Vista, 241

Aye, and it's endemic.
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Phil C,

10/05/2009 07:32:03
#240 The Col

Have you bought a black glitter toilet seat recently?! What a price!!
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W Smith,

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Its by claiming huge expenses that Salmond, Darling and others try to off-set the high left wing income tax that they claim to support.

Once the expenses are paid they have effectively made Westminster their own tax haven.

Brilliant - in a devious marxist sort of way.



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10/05/2009 07:49:35
#250 Let Scotland be rid of Troughminster!
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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 07:53:50
BlackDouglas, 251:

Your post is built around the assumption that I'm a Labour man and that I support the items you raise (wars & Trident & election fixing)

You're wrong, of course, but that's to be expected from your sort.

And all because I dared condemn wee fat Alex Sleazemeister for him stickin his snout in the trough with the other greedy batards.

His behaviour may meet your standards....but they fall way short of mine.
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Phil C,

10/05/2009 07:56:05
#251 Black Doug

Labour have long since excluded themselves from being deemed a political party. A fraudulent, incompetent, sleaze-ridden, self-seeking bunch of voter abusers maybe, but never again represetatives of the people.
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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 07:56:10
BlackDouglans, 254:

and now you tell us snouts at the expenses trough is OK when SNP loyalists reckon the greedy batard is doing a good job.

I guess you just have a different moral compass from decent folk.
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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 07:57:37
Col, 257:

did you ask me?

in which post?

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MNS,

Scotland 10/05/2009 07:59:23
Published Date: 10 May 2009
By Tom Peterkin
Scottish Political Editor

HOW MUCH DOES MR PETERKIN EARN?
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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 08:00:43
MNS, 262:

did Mr Peterkin's earnings concern you when Labour politicians were being scrutinised?
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W Smith,

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#254 'Coloured' Dougie

Two salaries Salmond is doing a "sterling job" - he can't get his hands on enough Pounds Sterling!!

He uses Sterling to pile on the pounds!

Never stand between Salmond and a big plate of food - it could get ugly.

Ah .. the 'tyranny' of English rule, eh Saeed?
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Oilman in Qatar,

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They are all at it regardless of the party politics. If the ordinary working man/woman made these claims they would be considered a 'Benefit in kind' and taxed.
It's interesting how the opposition parties have all been quiet on the subject.
They are all working the system and I’m pleased that the mole in Westminster has done us all a favour!
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Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 10/05/2009 08:05:42
GENE:

Price of union divi: £606bn (of borrowing).

Afraid the unionist apologists are the only ones on a greasy pole.
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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 08:07:45
Richard, 268:

care to condemn the greed of Alewx Sleazemeister Salmond?

Throwing OUR money around, eh?

Appalling.
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W Smith,

Middle East 10/05/2009 08:08:58
Didn't Hearts used to have a Chairman they used to refer to as the "Pie Man".

Now they have their most famous supporter 'Who Ate All The Pies Man Salmond'.
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Astonished,

10/05/2009 08:10:42
Luckily for labour some 'comics' will still print what their told. I am amazed at their utter subservience. It will damage their circulation in the long run.





It will not matter that the SOS (How apt) are unfairly painting Mr Salmond as sleazy. And failing to investigate the endemic corruption in the labour party. Labour are desperate and manufactured stories like this, on the front page, reveal the depth of that utter desperation.


The constant, professional (as in they are getting paid) and ever more shrill cries from the labour poster(s?) is hilarious.




Who will be the sleizemiester ? I think it will be Mr Martin (the speaker) or possibly Mr Hoon. It will DEFINITELY be someone in the labour party.





Finally BOTUB : Did you get a ride in the chauffeur driven limo for labour ? I bet you did !
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10/05/2009 08:11:05
#261 Vista

Your cynical stance is sad. I do believe that many politicians do their time-consuming work out of deeply held beliefs.

It is right that MPs & MSPs get expenses. It is wrong when they abuse them, as many of Labour's lost souls have done. Alex Salmond has not been shown to have done anything wrong, yet is being smeared with Labour's tarry brush. This is wrong too.
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Astonished, 274:

I see you too are labouring under the flawed assumption that I am a Labour man.

Does my principled contempt for greedy batards at the trough of taxpayers money necessarily mark me out as a labour man?

Are others incapable of taking such a moral stand?
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Asdtonished, 274:

wait til you see the Telegraph file on Tory Boy!!!

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Astonished,

10/05/2009 08:24:23
Botub @278 : I look forward to it - Got a link ?

I never distinguish between red or blue onionists - as they are indistinguishable.


I note that you haven't denied a wee hurl in labour's limo. Possibly I am just jealous.
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MoClana,

10/05/2009 08:24:57
The Unionists posters on here really do bring the level of debate down to their gutteral level.
They are not worthy of replys.

Let them try and blame the expenses on Salmond, anyone could have told you months ago that this would be the SOS headline, interestingly no other paper this morning mentions Salmond but this rag.

This storm is much bigger than Salmonds bed linen claims and will not suceed in trying to land a punch on the SNP.

The real story today and what real journalists are reporting is that Cameron will withdraw his support for part privitisation of the post office and motion a no confidence vote on Brown..........the endgame is now very ....very close !

(There you go Peterkin, you've had all week to come up with this pishy story, so i thought i'd help you out with some real news)


Saor Alba
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Stan Butler,

10/05/2009 08:28:16


Looks like Fat N'Eck Salmond must have had breakfast with Sandy Thom.

As for Sinn Fein I'm sure their expenses claims are all in accordance with the provisions of the Green Book.



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BOTOB,

10/05/2009 08:28:46
Aston, 278:

not available to you yet, Sir....but I'm sure it will be a cracker!

Yes, I can see where your blind spot is.

Labour Tory - bad

Natties - good (despite the reality)

Oh, and ref the ride in the big car...forgive me for not taking you seriously.
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Linda,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 08:38:27
SoS of course forgot to mention that it is on record that Alex Salmond had severe back problems a few years ago and that is no doubt why he required to buy a good specialist bed.

His expenses are at the bottom end of the scale so lets keep a sense of proportion in this debate.

Labour having blamed previous Tory government of sleaze have had 12 years to sort out this mess but have done nothing.
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Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 10/05/2009 08:39:09
GENE, BOTOB:

Go on then, convince me why Scotland is better off in the union. Why should I vote Labour, or Tories, or Libdems, given what I've read & heard in the last 1-2 years.

England is about to wipe Labour out, 1yr & counting, & vote principally it would seem for the Tories. A party many Scots will always despise. Even with the excellent Vince Cable, trhe Libdems will never form another Govt.

Seriously, I am interested to know why, with £600bn of borrowing, & the westminster trough, exactly WHY we are still better off in a de-facto bankrupt union.

But I'm willing to be convinced......
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 08:40:15
Not much of an indictment on Alex Salmond here, not even a bath- plug worthy of the name.

Still it’s got all the usual suspects frothing at the mouth in faux indignation.

To them any, however minor, diversion from the main story of Labour sleaze and corruption is a welcome respite from the daily drip drip of further revelations of their greed and scorn of their electorate.

Never mind, soon they will be relegated to their natural role of baying from the sidelines, totally oblivious of what is really going on. Much like the Labour MSPs in Holyrood.
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Brideun,

Culloden 10/05/2009 08:42:01
Repay all the money stolen from the taxpayer, then fix a date for an election. Make the greedy b'stards face the electorate.
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Stan Butler,

10/05/2009 08:44:11
#290 Richard Taylor


'the Tories. A party many Scots will always despise.'


Come now. There are plenty of Tories in Scotland. Indeed there are many parts of Scotland which for generations were Tory strongholds. They are now mostly held by the SNP. Go figure.

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TWC,

exLabour 10/05/2009 08:44:22
The poodles have been in pain for about 3 days now with all this Labour sleaze, they were desperate for another name to come out and it was the Nats and the sinn fheinn. However nothing can remove the stench of Sleaze from Labour they are really embarassed by this even the Church has condemned them in England.
Dissolve Parliament and all the guilty parties; call a general election, that's the only way to fully resolve the problem.
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The Kids Are Alright,

10/05/2009 08:44:54
I wonder if Salmond reads these threads over his soft boiled egg and diet yoghurt
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Linda,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 08:45:37
From Sunday Herald in April last year
A SENIOR Labour peer has been criticised after he claimed nearly £45,000 in overnight expenses to stay in a property he inherited from his late mother.
George Foulkes, who is also an MSP, billed the public to stay in a London flat registered as his company's address.
His claims were made over a two-year period in which he bought almost £600,000 of property without a mortgage and made £400,000 on another home.
The SNP branded Foulkes, who uncovered details of first minister Alex Salmond's expenses, a "prize hypocrite" and urged him to explain his bill.
Lord Foulkes, a former Labour MP, divides his time between the House of Lords and Holyrood, where he is a Lothians MSP. He was ennobled in 2005.Figures show he claimed £18,623 in "overnight subsistence" in his first year in the Lords and £26,105 in the last financial year. Peers can claim £165.50 tax-free for every night they spend in London on Lords' business.
The Sunday Herald can reveal Foulkes racked up nearly £45,000 in overnight costs for staying in a London flat he inherited from his late mother.
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Geoff,

sa 10/05/2009 08:49:39
300?
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Geoff,

sa 10/05/2009 08:50:01
300??
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Geoff,

sa 10/05/2009 08:50:43
300!!!
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Stan Butler,

10/05/2009 08:54:07
#297 Warthog

Which party now holds the former Tory seats in Scotland?

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Geoff,

sa 10/05/2009 08:54:09
300! Hey meths-put that in yer pipe and smoke it!



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SilverShred,

in the jamjar 10/05/2009 08:55:44
Get ready to apologise Cynicus.

As I told you yesterday no Nat has played "the Westminster property game" - think you'll find that the full receipts when published will show that those who have bought a wee flat are still in the original property. At which point I will follow every one of your posts with "time to apologise".

And frankly if I was one of their MPs I would think about suing you as your "33 per cent" b*llocks libels every one of them.

As for this story of two Labour MPs sharing a room at conference, and both claiming for it (and that's THE LEAST of what's to come), that misses the point. Rooms at party events eg conferences are not covered within the rules - so neither of them should have claimed.

I live a modest life, but some of the nonsense spouted here (not least by Charles L) has caused me to check my records. My bed, bought from Furniture Village (hardly the most extravagant of emporia) in December 1998 cost £695, and I paid £350 for the mattress.

By that token just over £1000 for a bed - delivered - in Central London seems pretty standard. Don't now what sort of fetid scratchers some of you lot hibernate in.
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TWC,

exLabour 10/05/2009 08:56:58
301 Stan Butler,

Which party holds the former Labour seats?
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puskas,

East kilbride 10/05/2009 08:59:46
The pressure of Westminster sleaze and a Labour Government in control for 12/13 years cannot be overlooked. Transparent government said Blair.. Could that have been the first lie?

Maybe he didn't include MP's expenses in that quote.

No confessionary box visit essential.?

One thing for sure as they rest in hell, many will not miss them as we stoke the fires..

Sadly ......... Some on this site will join them.

Comedy acts that are reknown worldwide throughout the internet.

When becoming independent a priority will have to be a massive re-education programme.
Indeed education is a Holyrood priority for obvious reasons.

Isn't it Chic







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Stan Butler,

10/05/2009 09:02:46
#304

There are very few seats that have gone from Labour to SNP and none of those are regarded as safe by the SNP.

Unlike the former Tory seats.

You are obviously happy to get into bed with a party whose core support is from the Tory heartlands. More fool you.
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TWC,

exLabour 10/05/2009 09:06:51
306 Stan Butler,

I don't do parties, not since I woke up to how the Labour party operates. I live in Ayrshire and it has moved to the Nats, it is unheard of.
They are going to be WIPED OUT in the UK.
When are they going to wake up to the fact that it is the WHOLE party that is going down the tube.

Scottish Labour ceased to exist when wee Wendy was shopped by a No 10 Mole.
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Castaway™ ,

10/05/2009 09:12:37
Labour MP Hazel Blears - Bed £899 : Bed linen £668 : Mattress £651.60 :

Labour MP Douglas Alexander - £550 - Bedding.

Labour MP Jack Straw - two new beds.

Labour MP Alistair Darling - £768 for a bed.

Labour MP Margaret Moran - bed worth £527.20

Labour MP - 3 beds bought in the space of nine months between October 2005 and June 2006 at a total cost of £1,917.94
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jdships,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 09:14:14
42 All Politicians are the same,

Says it all methinks.
SNP supporters seem to have this wonderful idea of all their representatives being snow ehit pure
Come into the real world guys .
Salmond et al are just as culpable as s other politician - in it for what they can get for nothing.

Promise you the "Kingdom of Heaven" to get your vote and then they "stuff you"
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Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 10/05/2009 09:17:10
Stan: You taxi's waiting! :-)

Still waiting to be convinced, GENE & BOTOB.......
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puskas,

East kilbride 10/05/2009 09:17:18
No307 TWC exlabour voter,

I agree wholeheartily.

As I have said previously the Labour party is a cesspit as I know to well as an ex-labour organiser.

It saddens me that what we see happening in politics is their demise maybe forever due to the unscrupulous. From leadership to what we see on these boards.

The bottom of the cesspit.
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smokey joe 1,

10/05/2009 09:17:38
Salmond will still be getting my vote.
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TWC,

exLabour 10/05/2009 09:19:47
313 jdships

We should sack the whole Westminster Parliament and call an election, then we can critique the expenses of our candidates and Vote accordingly.

This is making the whole UK Government the Laughing stock of the world.

The Mother of Parliaments
Honourable & Right Honourable Members
Saving the World

What a mess.
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TWC,

exLabour 10/05/2009 09:27:04
320 Hagbard Celine

Is your name Curran and did you sook a lemon this morning?

You have all the symptoms of a Labour supporter

Angry, sad, Loser.

Free yourself accept that Labour are finished.
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Nikostratos,,

10/05/2009 09:29:53
#291 Mr i don't wanna admit to snp wrongdoing

SO using your logic(twisted and warped by many years of nationalist hate training)"Not much of an indictment"

£800 +£1,633 =£2433 is not much one wonders what level of expense fiddling you would consider 'much'


Or is it a case nationalist fiddling be quiet don't mention it, ignore it, suppress it, hide it,
finally coming to saying so what.

unionist fiddling ..get the Nationalist megaphone out scream from the roof tops.....

Alex dun wrong plain and simple and thats how normal decent people will see it.....

no wonder Independence is at 21% in the polls how can you trust the snp when they act just the same as they accuse the unionists when caught with their trousers down.

What would Scottish law become under their Governance in a Independent nation. I tell you what it would be what ever the snp decided for it to be for that day.
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brownlie,

10/05/2009 09:32:09
No doubt David Maddox will have a column in the Scotsman tomorrow expressing his disgust and anger regarding the innuendo and attempts to smear Salmond by Charles Linskaill at 16, 26, 33 and 47 and Fifi la Bonbon at 19. Surprisingly for someone with a modicum of intelligence, Rufus aka Doctor Death, joined in at 21, 52 and 64. AM2 will be furious and join in the condemnation.
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TWC,

exLabour 10/05/2009 09:32:24
323 Nikostratos,,

Every one of them whether its Salmond or brown; if they have done wrong they should answer forit.

The problem here is they have all done wrong to a greater or lesser degree.
Sack the Parliament call an election NOW!!
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brownlie,

10/05/2009 09:36:53
319 sm753

I am surprised at you - "Highland child molester" - that is an outrageous smear.

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brownlie,

10/05/2009 09:39:15
327 Rufus

Good morning - I hope you've sobered up enough to reflect on your post at 328 and your earlier posts.
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Pavla,

Irvine 10/05/2009 09:42:47
Now this abuse is in the public arena isn't it also time to end the farce of mps,msps and euro mps employing family members as secretaries,assistants and researchers etc.Anyone in any other public service position is prevented by virtue of protocol.I remember when my uncle was admitted to the ward I was working in I was moved to another until he was discharged.How can staff be professional and objective if it's your mum,dad,sister,brother,aunt,uncle------------
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brownlie,

10/05/2009 09:48:29
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Lol - None of the adjectives describe me. I think you were wrong to repeat, at 328, the vile allegation made in sm753's post and I've already posted what I thought was wrong with your earlier posts.
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TWC,

exLabour 10/05/2009 09:49:25
336 Rùfùs,

What is working age, I thought Labour had done away with age discrimination.
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A Crofter,

Fat Arce in the Trough 10/05/2009 09:52:49
And still the rabid Cybernats leap to the Messiah's defence!

When will they learn the lessons from history?
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tommy M,

Scotland 10/05/2009 09:54:34
Salmond kitted out an empty flat for a third of what GB spent on a cleaner.

GB has bankrupted Britain and mismanaged the british economy.

Given the above, i know who i trust to run Scotland's economy and it ain't weird fake smile Brown.
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TWC,

exLabour 10/05/2009 09:56:06
343 A Crofter,

Well you canny blame them when you consider the alternative.
Let's face it at least he tries to look after Scotland Labour only look after the Party and themselves apparently.

Scottish Labour disappeared when Wee Wendy was shopped by an insider.
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tommy M,

Scotland 10/05/2009 09:59:41
Labour's popularity has slumped to its lowest level since polling began amid a series of scandals and renewed speculation over Gordon Brown's leadership.
Research for the Mail on Sunday found the party's support had dropped three points.Again?

Well, what do you expect when you bankrupt Britain?

Independence. It's time. Cut loose from the Wetsminster noose.
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Pavla,

irvine 10/05/2009 10:00:44
Rufus this practice goes right across the political spectrum examples of the worst offenders are Neil and Glenys Kinnock whose whole clan appear to work for them in Brussels.
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tommy M,

Scotland 10/05/2009 10:01:08
Have David Marshall's expenses been leaked yet? Now they should make interesting reading.
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tommy M,

Scotland 10/05/2009 10:09:17
"To me the most important thing is keeping the United Kingdom together and I don't like the Scottish Nationalist plans to break it up." David Cameron

This tired old line doesn't really work knowing that THERE IS NO SECURITY IN A UNION with a BANKRUPT wetsminster, mismanaged by the sleazegate party.

As for Cameron, i shall say this: NO MANDATE TO GOVERN IN SCOTLAND
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Ubi,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 10:09:54
There is now a moral case for the citizenry to withhold taxes from the state until we can be sure that our money is being used properly to provide public services.

It is repugnant that our extortionate taxes have been used in secret to finance largesse for those who make laws by which we are expected to live, from which they have exempted themselves.
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Bejjy,

Europe 10/05/2009 10:10:05
I have said it here so many times before, a politician is a politician whatever their political colours. I was never in any doubt that people like Salmond and Adams would be implicated in this immoral sleaze and I expect it will be revealed that many more nationalist MP's and MSP's are also implicated.
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Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 10:10:26
According to local journalists in the South-West of Scotland, the one and only Scots Tory MP at Westminster
has so far "declined" to give any interviews about the current expenses scandal which will affect every political party?

Between 2005 and 2008 the lone Tory's Westminster Parliamentary expenses totalled: £478,944!

This did no include his annual MPs salary of £64,000!

His 3 year first class travel bill was a huge £56,222!

During this period he also charged the taxpayer £1,661 for his family to travel back and forward to London?

In the information technology age the lone Scots Tory claimed an incredible £17,081 for stationery?

His "incidental expenses provisions" (whatever that covers?) totalled £84,450!

His staffing allowance totalled £181,048!
According to this morning's Sunday Telegraph, the vast majority of MPs are employing close relations and friends?

He who casts the first stone...............
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Jim P,

10/05/2009 10:11:52
Let's ask the SOS owners, editors and journalists to make public their expense claims!

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brownlie,

10/05/2009 10:12:40
339 Rufus

Do you have any idea how the Westminster Parliament works? Just because Salmond only voted six times does not mean to say that he only attended Parliament six times. A lot of MPs duties are carried out behind the scenes but when the bell rings if they do not have a direct interest in that particular subject they carry on with what they were doing whether that be meetings with constituents or whatever. Furthermore, there are meetings with other agencies such as civil servants, Scottish Office, Treasury etc etc which are not reflected by actual votes in Parliment.
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brownlie,

10/05/2009 10:14:24
I see the obnoxious Paisley Pete/Ciderman is back. Bye, folks.
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 10:15:38
323 Nikostratos,,

A somewhat blatant if rather lame attempt to try and tar Alex Salmond with the same brush of sleaze and corruption as practised by the parliamentary Labour Party.

The electorate of Scotland will easily see through this futile example of the smear campaign we can expect to gain momentum as the general election approaches.

Incidentally, I note that the Mail on Sunday carries an opinion poll which suggests that Labour now can look forward to receiving 23% of the popular vote at the next election.

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Mercutio,

FALKIRK 10/05/2009 10:17:23
Where are we going to find 600 odd Martin Bells to stand for parliament.
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John S,

10/05/2009 10:17:46
Alex Salmond was not alone claiming £800 for food in August and September 2005 even though Westminster was in recess at the time.

And because MPs can claim up to £400 per month for food, with no need for receipts, some put in claims for precisely that amount every month, even during the recess when they are not expected to live at their “second” home. Guardian 08 May 2009

John Prescott - £4,800 - Maximum food allowance for 04-05 which means he also claimed £800 for food in August and September 2005 even though Westminster was in recess at the time ?

Peter Hoone - Home in Derbyshire (Claimed between 2004-2006): £400 a month - Groceries.
Hazel Blears (December 2004): £400 per month - Groceries.
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KL1,

Ampang, 10/05/2009 10:18:11
Fairly pathetic article.
Sad to see what was once a robust newspaper being driven into oblivion by petty agenda and poor journalism.
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TWC,

exLabour 10/05/2009 10:21:30
360 Rùfùs

I don't actually care. All the Labour people I know employ their families, I don't like it but the problem is that it is efficient and still the cheapest way for the rest of us.

This attack on Salmond is just the cornered animal that Labour has become as it approaches complete rout, a sad reflection of a once Giant party in Scotland. (not this nu Labour UK muck)

Nearly every revelation so far has been :Labour and some of these house sales will go to court.

It can't be hidden like the individual ones were in the past, a revolution is needed.
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The Strategist,

10/05/2009 10:25:31
"Mr Cameron told the IoS: "As long as the Government doesn't do something crazy and change its mind and do a U-turn, we support part-privatisation of the Post Office... So as long as they don't suddenly change their plans, and as long as they answer reasonable questions about the structures of what they are putting in place, and as long as they are reasonable about how much time the House of Commons has to debate and discuss this."

Cameron may well win the GE but with this sort of attitude it is unlikely he will gain a mandate in Scotland.
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Mercutio,

FALKIRK 10/05/2009 10:26:18
Top of The Expense claim League.The Rangers and Celtic of Scotland's trough swillers
1 Eric Joyce (Lab, Falkirk) £187,334
2. Michael Connarty (Lab, Linlithgow & Falkirk East) £183,466
I hope the electorate of these two constituencies are reminded of this come election time.
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W Smith,

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Mr Salmond is a very spiritual person, in fact, he's very pie-ous.
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Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 10/05/2009 10:34:28
GENE: My taxes are going to greedy snout-snuffling money-grabbing unionist MPs & paying for their largesse. From plugholes to artex to loo seats.

Close the door on your way oot, just like the union is on its way oot. :o)
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It's me!,

10/05/2009 10:37:53
Can't wait to read the Tories expenses claims. I'll bet the Telegraph is keeping the best for last! That's why Cameron is doing his usual character assassination.
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Eddie,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 10:39:17
THe government should buy a hotel in central London.
MPs can stay at home like everybody else, or when they are in London, free accommodation at their own hotel. Food and board supplied.
They could even lay on a bus to take them to work in the morning.
If that's not good enough for any of them, they can pay from their salary to stay where they wish.
What's so special about them anyway?
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Aesop,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 10:40:07
Why does the SoS give credence and space ina front page news story to viewpoints from the so-called Taxpayers Alliance. It is well known that the TA are nothing more than a not very transparent front organisation for extreme right wing elements in the Tory Party. Printing their comments only devalues the news story.

Cant the Tories speak for themselves under their own auspices? Or are they staying silent, holding on tight to their expense accounts until the media interest in the subject abates?
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 10:45:07
385 Gene Pool,


Are you predicting that Hazel Blears will survive her capital gains tax evasion scam?
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SCOTSWAHAE,

TRANENT 10/05/2009 10:46:20
We elect them to run the COUNTRY and all they do is RUNUP ther EXPENCES get rid of the LOT O THEM no votes NO PROBLEMS
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The Tin Man,

10/05/2009 10:48:26
Of course £800 on second-helpings explains a lot. Get on your push-bike, Mr Salmond.
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tartan army 2222,

10/05/2009 10:55:37
The primary weakness of BOTOB's argument is that he purports that all politicians have their nose in the trough. Actually that is completely untrue (on all sides). The accusations against Salmond are laughable - he bought necessities and RENTED his house. Gordon Brown - as much as I would have loved him to be abusing the system - the simple fact is that the Telegraph tried to make something out of nothing. And then you have others such as Hillary Benn.

What is happening in Scotland is an attempt to deflect attention from the real sleazemeisters - John Reid, Hazel Blears and Phil Woolas.
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10/05/2009 10:56:37
At least Salmond was obviously not breakfasting at the same place as Sandi Thom.
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 10:56:48
Following the advent of the Scottish Parliament, Scottish constituency Westminster MPs are virtually redundant.

Their only role appears to be to prop up a discredited and failed Brown Government who are now entering their dog days prior to their inevitable self-destructing implosion.

Let us simply do away entirely with this unnecessary and expensive layer of Government and return all powers to Edinburgh, where they rightly belong.
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Munguin,

10/05/2009 10:58:05
It’s good to see that at least Mr Woolas has provided receipts for his tampons, panty liners and his skirt. As quoted in the Telegraph “ he deleted claims for hair dye and baby wipes” but not it seems for the necessary panty liners and women’s shoes. Surely much more embarrassing than the £400 claimed by Alex, oh Mr Woolas also claimed for his food too. Alexs indiscretions pale into insignificance when tabulated against the tidal wave of sleaze coming from the Government in Westminster.
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John S,

10/05/2009 10:59:25
#383 Col. Blimp­IV*,

Do you think being MP for a Scottish constituency is a full time job ?

Labour's Margaret Curran yesterday insisted she can do two jobs - as both an MSP and an MP. Jul 7 2008

Our Scottish constituency MP's more pay for less work !!!

What have Scottish MPs done since devolution? A lot less work;
Scottish MPs take part in less than half the votes in Westminster, falling far below the levels even for their Welsh counterparts, while their workload in scrutinising government has plummeted since the Scottish parliament was set up.

The definitive study of devolution throughout the UK has found that Scottish MPs' participation rate in House of Commons votes, which hovered above the 50% mark in 1999-2000, fell to 48% in 2001, the year of the last Westminster election. That compares with a Welsh voting record at 63%, which was slightly above even that of English MPs.

The think-tank research, based on House of Commons statistics, also found the number of oral and written questions asked by Scottish MPs has more than halved since the creation of the Scottish parliament. Time for monthly Scottish questions at Westminster has been halved to 30 minutes, and rarely extends beyond the second or third query on the order paper. The Sunday Herald, Jan 26, 2003

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Stan Butler,

10/05/2009 11:01:17


On the general topic of sleaze there's an interesting wee story in today's Observer regarding the gnats favourite whistleblower.

'The civil servant at the centre of the Home Office leak inquiry says he has been "dumped" by the Conservative party, even though Tory frontbencher Damian Green promised him a job in return for handing over sensitive Whitehall documents.

Christopher Galley was arrested and lost his Home Office position after leaking documents to Green, the shadow immigration minister. He says Green promised to look after him "if things went wrong".'


Who would have thought it?
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:04:49
I see Hazel Blears managed to claim for 3 TVs and repairs on her "second home" but cleverly managed to avoid paying capital gains tax when she sold the renovated property by telling the Inland Revenue it was her primary residence.

Unionist Divends abound!
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The Tin Man,

10/05/2009 11:05:49
#405

I am not qualified to comment on the voices you hear inside your head.

Salmond is fat - he should be following the examples set down south and cycle to work. That would be good for Scotland.

Sandi Thom's expense claim was outrageous, but at least we woun't be seeing her again at political events. That's good for Scotland.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:06:39
407. Stan, great post!

Disgraceful behaviour for a paid employee of the state! Far better that such people confine themselves to inventing vile and fictitious sexual innuendo and tales of VD to put on websites about Brown's opponents!

Avanti the Union!
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:09:02
409. Tin Man

great post! That Labour MP Margaret Moran is only slightly tubby because she regularly commutes to her "second home" which rather oddly is neither in her constituency and is a 120 miles from Westminster - hell of a morning jog that 120 miles!

Avanti New Labour, onwards the Union!
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Pavla,

Irvine 10/05/2009 11:12:30
I hope we don't forget the peers of the realm in this lancing of the Westminster political boil.This greed and lack of personal integrity has given the opportunity to the BNP to elect possibly seven meps in June.It's really alarming and hopefully like the French a few years ago the electorate will pull back from the brink in time but I am not so sure.What happens if England moves dramatically to the right which is a distinct possibility and we in Wales and Scotland remain as a social demcratic society? This is a question the supporters of the status quo need to start thinking about.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:12:45
412. Gene

great post! McNeil, as an MP, should have followed convention and had his hoggins in his parliamenatry office rather than sullying his position by the cheap and tawdry use of a hotel room!

We in New Labour prefer generally that people keep their amorous activities to badgers in the Ron Davies fashion, but if one must engage in same species activity at least keep it in parliament!

Avanti the Union!
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livilion,

livingston 10/05/2009 11:13:34
Jings oh its the SNP that's been fiddling their Westminster expenses is it?

Never mind come the next round of elections the great British public will deliver their verdioct, and Mr Brown's party will be re-elected with a resounding mandate to carry on its good works on our behalf.

Just remember to wear the fox hat in case them flying pigs do their business on you.
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Mèths,

10/05/2009 11:14:04
146 subrosa

Up late here and ploughing through the posts. You mentioned Eric Joyce. He came top of the list for claims for 2007 - 2008. I posted it yesterday. Salmond was 416th!

It's here:-
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=phNtm3LmDZEObQ2itmSqHIA
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:14:29
413. "I hope we don't forget the peers of the realm in this lancing of the Westminster political boil."

Disgraceful post.

Labour Peer Baroness Uddin saved the taxpayer a huge amout of money by staying for 3 years at her "second home" which had not a stick of furniture in it! She only claimed £130,000 for it too!

New Labour, New Value!
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Mèths,

10/05/2009 11:16:50
The paper guns for Salmond who was 416th on the list for claims.

No 1: Joyce
No 2: Connarty
No 5: Sarwar
No 6: Kennedy

No 416: Salmond.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:17:04
Disgrace. Today's opinion poll shows Labour at the lowest level recored since polling began, and below our previous best under Michael Foot!

People are so fickle. What is a little expensed porn, fictitious second homes, inventing sexual innuendo for websites about opponents relly got to do with our ability to govern!

Avanti New Labour!
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Stan Butler,

10/05/2009 11:19:38
#410 English Voice


Did MacBride invent the stories?

I don't think he did.

My understanding is that he reported in an email various stories that MPs and the rest of the Westminster village were already gossiping about.

Certainly the story about Osborne has been doing the rounds for years.

And the Cameron one is based on his own reporting that he had been to the clap clinic while at uni.

Obviously gnat politicians don't engage in rumour, gossip, innuendo and backstabbing. Just ask Margo Macdonald.
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John S,

10/05/2009 11:20:45
TOP Tory MP James Gray is exposed today as a greedy skinflint after claiming for Remembrance Day WREATHS on expenses.
Astonishingly when this perk was finally stopped he had the nerve to COMPLAIN to the Leader of the House.
Unabashed, the MP said: "It's necessary for me to attend three ceremonies and I have therefore to buy three wreaths at £20 each, so I am out of pocket to the tune of £60.

Last night-as another top Tory, Shadow Scottish Secretary David Mundell, admitted claiming for a Remembrance wreath-Gray, 54, was unapologetic. But he said: "I now do four Remembrance Sunday wreaths for which I pay £30 each. News of the World - 10/05/2009
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:21:04
"Independence leads to nuclear holocost: Scotland 2014"

It is a tribute to the bold work of the Scotsman on our behalf that we can now meld fiction seemlessly into our headlines and no one can actually tell the difference!

£5000 SNP tax bill - how will your family cope? By buying a second home on expenses, reovating at at taxpayer expense and selling it (while telling the revenue it your main house to avoid cap gains) I hear you say!

Avanti New Labour!
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Nikostratos,,

10/05/2009 11:22:18
#409 Tin man

That is outrageous smear on Mr Salmond he is not F## he has a BMI of around 40.

# 35-40: obese II
# above 40: morbidly obese.

Contrary to the Scottish Governments health Guidelines which he himself blithely ignores.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:22:18
424. TOP Tory MP James Gray is exposed today as a greedy skinflint after claiming for Remembrance Day WREATHS on expenses.

TOTAL DISGRACE.

He could at least have had the class of Margaret Beckett and had them made into hanging baskets before expensing them!

New Labour, new class!
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Tarchin,

Lothian 10/05/2009 11:23:01
#5 Doctor Death, AS bought a Saville Row suit for £399.00. Wonder where? Probably OXFAM. You would be lucky to buy a Saville Row suit for five time that amount.
The recent revelations about our politicians and their expenses makes me think that, to misquote Orwell "All polictians are guilty but some are more guilty than others"

Wonder what effect these revelations will have on the voter turnout in the European Elections.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:23:35
426. Gene

scurrilous.

Union is Best is my "second moniker" which I use only for claiming expenses from the Scotsman.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:25:03
431. Stan

quite right! I hear Jacqui Smith is available via internet enabled distance learning - £9.99 a session.
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Stan Butler,

10/05/2009 11:25:43
#423 Warthog


I don't object to anyone having the right to settle in the UK.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:27:20
435. Stan - off message!

British Jobs for British workers!

See Margaret Hodge, user of "BNP language" and hammer of the assylum seeker!

new Labour, new compassion!
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The Strategist,

10/05/2009 11:28:59
Cameron says he will govern Scotland with respect.... Patronising git!

If the Tories win the general election they won't do it on the back of Scottish votes. Labour voters need to understand that with the general election lost their only sensible move would be to vote SNP and support the referendum on independence.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:29:18
437. Col B

how can one expect Hazel to keep track of that! The poor woman was worked off her feet - she changed her "second home" designation 3 times in 9 months, conveniently just after expensing a new TV at each of the previous addresses.

It is a bit much to expect her to recall what house she was renovating to sell and keep track of that with the revenue as well! (She didn't re-desiginate, btw)

New Labour, New Tellies!
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:30:02
439. LOL. Better than mine :-)
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Ewan Oosami,

10/05/2009 11:30:10
Porn must come under allowable expenses considering the bunch o fwankers in parliament
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Queen D,

Glasgow 10/05/2009 11:30:10
Guido makes interesting listening and reading and Old Holburn is in need of help.
His WANTED poster is pretty good!
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Munguin,

10/05/2009 11:30:26
Just like John Major never going anywhere without his Trollope it turns out the Dr John Reid never goes anywhere without his pouffe.
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Mèths,

10/05/2009 11:30:55
379 Rufus

Ah-HA! Your "Firefly" could have an upside down exclamation mark if you wished - viz - F¡refly.
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livilion,

livingston 10/05/2009 11:32:12
#437 Col. Blimp­IV*,
Mrs Blears infringement of the rules was to tell the Inland Revenue her main domicile was one place and tell the Commons it was another, oh yes and to stab her boss in the back.
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Nikostratos,,

10/05/2009 11:32:40
#433

But unlike master Salmond I am following the Scottish Government health Guidelines and doing something about it
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Richard Lionheart,

10/05/2009 11:34:08
Go on, the only people who have the power to resolve this are the people who benefit from it.

Put yourself in the same position what are you going to do?

The outcome will be that they are able to take even more tax free and general taxation will have to increase again to pay for it.

It's a pandemic (nose in trough disease) in British politics and no funds will ever be allocated to find an effective antidote.
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 11:35:09
412 Gene Pool,

Ah yes, Angus Brendan MacNeil, the Barra based bête noir of unionist “cash for privileges” scams.

The lurid unionist smear campaign against both Angus and Alasdair failed to stop Alasdair Allan being elected as SNP MSP for the Western Isles in May 2007.

As someone with immediate family connections with Uibhist a Deas, my impressions of the voting intentions of the good people of nan Eilean Siar differ somewhat from yours.

I don’t think that Mr MacNeil has too much to worry about regarding his future employment prospects.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:36:31
452. Gene

great post! That Nigel had his hoggins in his parliamentary office is not the disgrace. The disgrace is that Jacqui had to pay back the £9.99 she expensed to download the video feed!

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puskas,

East kilbride 10/05/2009 11:38:40
Margaret Moran has a partner who works 120 miles from Westminster?

My goodness we are lucky taxpayers. Think of the expense if it had been NZ.
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puskas,

East kilbride 10/05/2009 11:40:27
Salary increase, £100,000 would solve this problems for a few weeks.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:41:54
459. Here:

Communities Secretary Hazel Blears faces further questions over her expenses dealings after revealing she did not pay capital gains tax on profit from the sale of a London flat.
Ms Blears sold the property in Kennington in August 2004 for £200,000, making £45,000 profit.

The flat had been designated as her "second home" under Commons rules, meaning she was able to claim back thousands of pounds in mortgage interest and running costs.

But the Salford MP has confirmed that she had not been liable for any capital gains tax - indicating that the flat was simultaneously registered with the taxman as her primary residence.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:42:39
In March 2004 she designated her second home as a house in her Salford constituency, which she has owned with her husband since June 1997.

During that month she bought an £850 television and video recorder and a £651 mattress for this home.

The following month she changed to declare the Kennington flat as her second home.

After selling it four months later she apparently claimed for nights in hotels in London, including the Zetter in Clerkenwell, where rooms cost £211 a night.

In December 2004 Ms Blears purchased another London flat with a mortgage of more than £1,000 a month and declared it as her second home.
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W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 10/05/2009 11:44:19
Alex, admit that you were at it, say you were wrong, and grab the high moral ground. The others won't.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:44:20
Blessed Hazel - 3 second homes in 9 months, £45,000 sales profit on one, 3 new TVs boughts. So many second homes, but oddly her Inalnd revenue declaration said it was her primary residence.

New Labour - Collect £200 as you pass go!
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The Ayrshire Bard,

10/05/2009 11:44:58
Charles Linkscail has proved that he is no better than any of the Westminster smear team led by McBride.
I'm no fan of the SNP but if I were Alex Salmond I would be considering legal action against him for his slanderous and totally unfounded comments today.
Linkscail has proved himself to be lacking in intelligence as he imposes his daily drivel upon us.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:47:34
469. "Annus Horribilis" Bit of a typo there?
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 11:47:56
Have a look at side by side pictures of David Cameron and Ed Milliband and see if you can tell which is which?
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puskas,

East kilbride 10/05/2009 11:48:26
SNP to put up candidates for all UK seats the next GE.

Labour Government poll 5%

Whitewash for unionist parties as Mr Salmond prepares to be Prime Minister in an enlarged Scotland.

ID cards for all previously sitting Unionists now unemployed in the new Scotland.

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Mèths,

10/05/2009 11:49:40
From 2008 Times

"Twenty-four MPs with seats in Greater London claimed almost £400,000 of public money to fund second homes last year.

They were entitled to housing payments of £22,110 - the same as MPs with seats hundreds of miles away in Scotland and Cornwall.

Two Labour MPs with neighbouring constituencies in west London, Alan and Ann Keen, a junior health minister, have claimed more than £175,000 in allowances since 2002 even though their family home in her constituency is less than 10 miles from parliament.

A third MP, John Austin, who claimed £22,110, bought a London flat which is approximately the same travelling time from Westminster as his constituency home.

Among the highest claimants are the Keens, who share a family home in Brentford which has frequent train services to Water-loo taking half an hour. In 2002 the couple bought a £500,000 flat which is a 15-minute walk from Westminster. Both were unavailable for comment.

Andrew Rosindell, Tory MP for Romford in Essex, claimed £22,110 last year even though the train from Romford to Liverpool Street takes less than 30 minutes. Rosindell, who was also unavailable for comment, bought a flat in Southwark, across the Thames from Westminster, for £325,000 in 2002.

Joan Ryan, Labour MP for Enfield North, has a home in her constituency. Last year she opted to claim £21,971 in housing allowance for a flat nearer parliament in Kennington, south London.

By contrast her neighbour, the MP for Chingford, Iain Duncan Smith, the former Conservative leader, claimed just £566 in housing allowances.

Barry Gardiner, Labour MP for Brent North, claims the allowance even though he does not own a house in his constituency.

Dawn Butler, the Labour MP for Brent South, whose constituency is just 5½ miles from parliament (or 4½ miles as the crow flies), claimed £21,803 last year She owns a house in her constituency and a house in Stratford, east London, but not close to parliament.

The Dagenham MP Jon C
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:49:53
475. ID cards? Would the purpose of an ID card to be to identify someone as where they live?

I ask,because Hazel Blears would have a terrible time - poor woman changed her address 3 times in 9 months!
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:51:24
476. Gene

Betty Noir? I thought that was the title of one of the porn films Jacqui Smith charged to the taxpayer?
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Mèths,

10/05/2009 11:53:16
"Assistant government whip Dawn Butler has claimed £37,245 in taxpayers' cash in two years to pay for a second property.

The Labour MP for Brent South has a house in Wembley, aboutnine miles or a 32-minute Tube journey to Westminster, and a home in Stratford, about eight miles or a 24-minute Tube ride.

She was today facing questions over why she needed the two homes, which are almost exactly the same distance from the Houses of Parliament."

(Evening Standard)
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David55,

Kirkcaldy 10/05/2009 11:53:33
Gordon has problems with his rear end?
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Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 11:53:53
"The expenses scandal at the English Parliament(sic) has finally knocked Scottish singer Susan Boyle off the front pages!" Source: CNN TV report

Numerous US State and Federal politicians, who by law have to declare their annual salary and IRS returns for public scrutiny, simply cannot believe how MPs have been getting away with fleecing the UK tax payer
for years!

"This makes Tammany Hall patronage look like Salvation Army charity!" Source: New York Times
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Tris,

10/05/2009 11:54:42
Dear oh dear.

Whilst I condemn Alex Salmond for taking £800 in food allowance at any time, never mind in recess, how typical of this newspaper that it is headlining £800 over the hundreds of thousands by some of its party's MPs. And the fact that in some cases they are to be investigated by the Inland Revenue for tax fraud.

Labour on Sunday indeed. I'm off to the Herald for the news.
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Mèths,

10/05/2009 11:55:45
nova kimba

LOL - she's back.
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nova albion,

10/05/2009 11:56:40
464. Really! the only mentallist on here pal is you,what a shame,not even you can defend salmond and his glutony.
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Mèths,

10/05/2009 11:57:45
New Labour. They're buying up property quicker than than the "Monopoly" champion.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 11:58:36
485. Gene

great post.

Say what you like about Mike Watson and George Foulkes, but they are never too drunk to oblige, whether its bashing old ladies and police officers or torching hotels!

New Labour, New ASBOs!
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 12:01:10
488. I feel my 468 dealt with that first!
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Mèths,

10/05/2009 12:01:26
Houses of parliament? The MANY houses of parliament.
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Mèths,

10/05/2009 12:02:46
490

I'm trying to catch up! Apols. You're all posting quicker than a NuLabour estate agent.
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Tebbit,

10/05/2009 12:03:33
453 bully wee

You and Paisley Pete may not be aware that the young ladies concerned and their families spoke to the Stornoway Gazette about the distortions in the story published in the Sunday Mail. They said that the statement the Mail attributed to them were falsified, that there were others in the room and that no activity, even remotely sexual, took place. They tried to get the Mail to post an apology to no avail.

As you say, it was probably just coincidence that this version of events was published by the Mail whilst the "investigation" of the cash for honours was taking place.

Probaby unwise for the Genie and Stan Butler to remind us of the government's role in the cash for honours scandal when it is being swamped by sleaze. Does anyone really doubt that honours were given for cash?
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Mèths,

10/05/2009 12:04:44
"You might have seen the movie?"

No, but a certain husband of Jacqui Smith probably did.
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English Voice,

10/05/2009 12:04:47
493 Meths "You're all posting quicker than a NuLabour estate agent."

LOL
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Annals Ya Scorer,

10/05/2009 12:05:08
So, the Scotsman's owners (largely US investment firms)are worried about a collapse of the Labour vote at the Gen Election. They know that the tories are so loathed in Scotland that the SNP vote will increase, leading to more SNP in Westminster.

The last thing the elites want is a Tory government that needs SNP in London: sooooooo.........ensure a massive tory landslide in England by using the media there to ridicule Labour (in a manner that Bliar escaped) and focus on Wee Eck's expenses while ignoring others.

The illusion of democracy.
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Cramondo,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 12:05:54
The only thing more astonishing than this rotten expenses system is the huge number of party political points being made above.

It seems pretty obvious that this scandal involves all parties, and all levels (members, junior ministers, cabinet).

Whether it's Alex Salmond's food bill, Jacqui Smith's house, or Conway's children, no party is in the clear.

Not that the usual suspects above particularly want to see that.
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 12:06:14
476 Gene Pool,




"bête noir." Is that Gaelic for lying bastage who called in the police without any evidence?”



I realised that a post presented in three different languages may cause you some difficulties, given your propensity to “wonder” about some more prosaic issues.


However, as neither Alex Salmond nor Angus MacNeil have anything to worry about regarding the next time they are required to present themselves to the electorate, your feeble attempts to smear these individuals appears to have fallen upon stony ground.

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Mèths,

10/05/2009 12:07:48
Maybe it's all just made up. Wasn't this the paper that had "The Exclusive" about Galloway and Iraq? It was shown later to be a complete load of bawbags.
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Mèths,

10/05/2009 12:10:49
"Phil Woolas was at the centre of a fierce row over MPs' expenses last night over a £23 pair of women's shoes and a £5.75 bottle of nail polish."

Ooh matron ...
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Mercutio,

FALKIRK 10/05/2009 12:12:29
This whole sorry saga gives new meaning to the phrase benefit cheats.
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Mèths,

10/05/2009 12:14:51
How come Blair got a £296,000 mortgage on a constituency home he bought for £30,000?

Sub-prime surely.
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Mèths,

10/05/2009 12:15:45
"Minister Tom Watson spent so much on a shopping spree at Marks & Spencer funded by the taxpayer that the store gave him a free pizza wheel.

A leaked receipt submitted to the parliamentary fees office shows that he was given the free gift during his £150 shopping trip.

Other leaked documents reveal that Mr Watson, a close ally of Gordon Brown, spent the maximum of £4,800 in a single year on food. "
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Brianwci,

10/05/2009 12:16:46
I'm pleased to see that despite the unionistas best efforts the public's eye has not being taken off the ball.

Labour MPs generally have clearly been milking the system for all its worth and many have bent the rules to the point of breaking them on the second home issue e.g. Dawn Butler claiming for a second home 8 miles or a 24 minute tube journey from her own home.

Now THAT is disgusting and THAT is what is sickening the public and THAT Labour's 'greed for greed's sake' attitude is what will be severely punished by the electorate.
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Media at One,

10/05/2009 12:17:03
I am quite sure the authorities will investigate. Maybe once those results have been published we can take the media seriously - Until then it is all assumption.
The Scottish public amaze me though - this issue will attract over 1000 posts, yet out of control school children who act like scum on a daily basis and drag their classmates to a level not fit for an animal will go on without any real public outcry. Prisoners who rape and murder will receive 5 star hotel treatment in jail and that will not be an issue either. Anti social behaviour due to a benefit system designed to reward laziness and a lack of ambition will not receive as much attention as this story about expenses.
Amazing -
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John S,

10/05/2009 12:17:52
Labour MP John Reid claimed for a pouffe and a glittery loo seat on MPs' expenses
After moving into a flat in Glasgow in 2008, Mr Reid set about furnishing it with cosy trappings including a £199 pouffe, a £370 armchair and an £899 DFS sofa, which came with the instructions "plump cushions daily".

Last August, he also went on a shopping spree at Marks & Spencer and submitted a £486.50 receipt for everything from slotted spoons to an ironing board.
The bill included three rattan bins for a total of £34, electric scales for £25, oven mitts for £9.50, two ice cube trays for £1.50 each, a hand blender for £1.50 and four wine glasses for £7.50.

The following day he went shopping at Woolworths, where he spent 75p on two bath sponges, £1.68 on 20 coat hangers, £7 on a "magic mop" and 99p on a bucket. In 2007-08, a year when Mr Reid changed his address three times, he also had to deal with an official warning letter from the TV Licensing authority

John - Please tell me this is not true !!!

http://tinyurl.com/pqkuvs - Telegraph ::10 May 2009
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hoblar,

10/05/2009 12:18:18
Alex Salmond can defend this alleged £800 bill and we will see what happens, but the main story, the one the trolls have forgotten about, is the lies, corruption and fraud running into £Millions that the labour MP's are up to.

It is typical of the gleeful disproportion of this so called 'Scottish' newspaper, who have invented headlines about the Scottish Government that dwarf the actual living (or dead) Westminster economic disasters and trough snorting antics- we deserve a better press.

If Alex Salmond is in trouble, (yet to be proven) then gawd knows what will happen to the greedy labour lot, making a daily headline for all the wrong reasons.

They'll be hung drawn and quartered I presume?
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Mèths,

10/05/2009 12:20:16
The Commons official (Malcolm Jack) who called in the police over the leak of MPs' expenses splits his time between four homes in three countries. Homes are worth £4.5million.

Dr Jack, a close ally of Speaker Michael Martin, finds time to fly around the globe visiting his properties and has a second job as an author. His publisher even describes him as 'living in Portugal'.

When 62-year-old Dr Jack became Clerk in 2006 he moved into 3 Parliament Street, a plum grace-and-favour home opposite the Commons worth £2.8million. In the same year, the Westminster authorities spent £100,000 on a lavish redecoration of the property, adding sparkling new features which included a £39,000 kitchen, bespoke furniture, a butler's tray, flat-screen television and two ionic columns costing £963.

He also benefited from furniture polishing in the 'patio area', a £1,500 black slate hearth and 'knife-pleat empire lamp shades' at £158 a time.

MPs were furious about the expenditure - ironically, given the current furore about their claims - because the spending had not been approved by them."

Parliamentary officials said the cost of the refurbishment was below the threshold necessary for approval by MPs.

Dr Jack also owns a £1million townhouse in a leafy road in Islington, North London - shared for more than a decade with his 55-year-old partner, Robert Borsje - as well as a £600,000 home in Camps Bay, South Africa. In addition, he has the use of an apartment in Cascais, Portugal, estimated to be worth at least £250,000.
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 10/05/2009 12:21:24
494 Tebbit,


“You and Paisley Pete may not be aware that the young ladies concerned and their families spoke to the Stornoway Gazette about the distortions in the story published in the Sunday Mail. They said that the statement the Mail attributed to them were falsified, that there were others in the room and that no activity, even remotely sexual, took place. They tried to get the Mail to post an apology to no avail.”.


I am perfectly well aware of the article in the Stornoway Gazette as we have a subscription to this newspaper here in the outlands of Dùn Èideann and are not entirely bereft of culture or information.


However, the art of debate is not to disclose all your aces at the first showing.
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Budgie,

INCHINNAN 10/05/2009 12:22:07
I used to believe that M.P's were in it for the "public good". I now believe they are in it to take advantage of their right to indulge in legalised theft.
Party politics would appear to be anomalous, and the way they are all desperately attempting to deny us the details of their seedy practices gives the ultimate credence to the saying that "there is honour among thieves".
I intend to exercise my right to vote, but I also intend to spoil my paper,