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Published Date: 27 April 2008
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A YEAR after leading the SNP to a historic election victory, Alex Salmond is still enjoying a strong personal standing among Scots, according to an exclusive poll for Scotland on Sunday.

The poll was commissioned to mark the first anniversary of t
he Holyrood elections, and provides a unique insight into what Scotland thinks of Salmond.

Salmond's aides will find much in this poll to encourage them. The SNP leader's critics often characterise him as smug and self-satisfied. Yet only 32% of Scots would describe him as arrogant; 34% as patronising; and 24% as conceited.

Salmond is even making progress on the trust front. Asked by Scottish Opinion last week if they would trust the First Minister with their wallet, three out of 10 Scots said they would be happy to do so.

The 'wallet' question is a useful test of a politician's standing – and while three out of 10 might seem like a low score it is the best Salmond has ever achieved.

In May 1999, during the first Holyrood election, only 27% of Scots said they would trust Salmond with their wallet. In September 2006, that figure had fallen to 18%. Today's poll result is therefore a marked improvement.

But he has a long way to go before he can match the standing of Donald Dewar. In May 1999, 54% of Scots said they would trust the former Scottish Labour leader with their wallet.

Elsewhere in today's poll, there are findings that will cause concern for Salmond and his advisers. Only 43% of voters describe him as 'honest' and only 31% believe he has 'the best ideas for improving people's lives'.

The poll suggests the Scottish public remains to be convinced about the what the SNP administration can actually achieve.

Aspects of the poll will also come as a surprise to SNP strategists, because they contradict some common assumptions about where their support is at its strongest.

The party has traditionally enjoyed its highest popularity among the young, and has also won the backing of less well-off Scots.

No longer, it seems. The biggest Salmond sceptics are those in the 18-24 age group. Less than half think he 'stands up for Scotland' and only 17% believe he has 'the best ideas for improving people's lives'. Only 8% of them would trust him to look after their wallet.

Our poll also reveals the strongest enthusiasm for Salmond comes from high-income ABC1 socioeconomic groups. Poorer Scots have a significantly lower opinion of him.

One possible explanation is that having finally achieved power, the Nationalists are seen in a different light.

The SNP used to be regarded as political rebels standing up to the establishment – a stance that was attractive to the idealistic young and those at the bottom of the economic heap. But these days the Nationalists are the ones in the ministerial limos – the new establishment.

Last night political analysts and image consultants said the results of the survey were, on the whole, favourable for Salmond. Leading publicity and image expert Max Clifford, said: "Overall, this is a very impressive poll for Alex Salmond. Any politician getting more than 40% of people describing him as honest is pretty good going. The issue about the wallet is interesting, because the wallet is so important to people and it touches on the issue of trust.

"This poll suggests to me that people know Alex Salmond the politician but don't feel that they know Alex Salmond the man. I advise appearances on daytime TV shows, for example, so that people can learn more about him as a person."

John Curtice, professor of politics at Strathclyde University, said: "This is a good poll for Alex Salmond and shows that people approve of him. In my view, the questions about the wallet and whether he has the best ideas for Scotland show that while people think he may be doing well as First Minister, they are not yet confident about following him and the SNP to their eventual goal."

• Scottish Opinion contacted 757 Scottish adults by telephone between April 21-25. The representative sample was taken from all Scottish parliamentary constituencies.





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  • Last Updated: 26 April 2008 7:41 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Scottish National Party
 
1

James,

Dundee 26/04/2008 23:43:06
'But these days the Nationalists are the ones in the ministerial limos – the new establishment'.

Labour to be cast aside.....they havent noticed it coming yet.
2

An Beal Bacht,

27/04/2008 00:13:36
What a silly poll. Let's see the results from the real one SoS - fearties.
3

McX,

27/04/2008 00:16:07
"Would trust him to look after my wallet?"

What kind of a question is that? Name one person ither than a close family friend or a member of your family you'd trust with your wallet. It's human instinct to trust nobody with your wallet!


Can we expect to see the results of a similar poll done on the WENDY.


Well done FM Salmond on an excellent first year in power, here's to many more.
4

McX,

27/04/2008 00:19:41
"Not leadership material?"

Err, isn't that rather a redundant question?
5

Rob - Honest Toun,

27/04/2008 00:20:48
Dae ye think Wendy wad raither thae results applied tae Alex Salmond or tae hersel?
6

Nacho Darcheville,

27/04/2008 00:22:41
Rob - Speak English you halfwit.
7

McX,

27/04/2008 00:30:26
I wonder how much pain it caused Kenny Farquharson and Murdo MacLeod to write 'Scots give Salmond the thumbs-up', and how much grief it will cause our dribbling mentalist Union dependent chumrades.

If only they'd engaged on the issues rather than sniping from the sides..
8

Jimmy the Pie,

27/04/2008 00:32:07
Good on you Alex Salmond. Keep up the good work.
9

Patrick Henry,

Edinburgh 27/04/2008 00:37:29
I trust Alex Salmond. I am not so sure about opinion polls.
10

Jimmy the Pie,

27/04/2008 00:44:17
From the Sunday Herald

A SENIOR Labour peer has been criticised after he claimed nearly £45,000 in overnight expenses to stay in a property he inherited from his late mother.

See if you can guess which Peer this is?????


A night with Red Wendy for the winner
11

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27/04/2008 00:51:04
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12

Jimmy the Pie,

27/04/2008 00:52:37
And this from the Sunday Times.


Britain's wealthiest 1,000 people have seen their assets quadruple under Labour, The Sunday Times Rich List reveals

Any comments Red Wendy
13

Rob - Honest Toun,

27/04/2008 00:53:57
Nacho

Sorry. A didnae ken ye warnae bi-lingual. A aye feel sorry for monoglots. Hae a guid nicht.
14

Jimmy the Pie,

27/04/2008 01:07:56
And this from the Independent on Sunday

Senior Blairites believe that Gordon Brown is doomed to fail at the next election, and are urging David Miliband to start organising his leadership campaign now.
15

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27/04/2008 01:07:57
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Soosider,

Glasgow 27/04/2008 01:15:32
what a silly poll!!!! all about personality and very little about policies, issues.
This is meant to be a serious newspaper, how come then that this is how you assess a year of an SNP government.
Daft just Daft
17

Richardinho,

27/04/2008 01:43:18
I wonder how many people would trust Gordon brown with their wallets?

When you got it back, you'd find half your money missing-then after he promised to put it back you'd find the other half gone as well!
18

Jimmy the Pie,

27/04/2008 01:52:22
And this one from the Mail on Sunday!

Lord Levy: 'I warned Tony Blair about long massages with Carole Caplin'

Not more New Labour sleaze?
19

Willie Macleod,

Wick 27/04/2008 03:21:21
19 Labour sleaze what about the Laidlaw we can not comment on this Tory andparty funding,
20

Alan Reid,

NZ 27/04/2008 03:32:38
Leading from the front, well done Mr Salmond.
21

mesmiths,

fife 27/04/2008 04:06:29
#7 McX-
Well they clearly can't hide their disgust. Just look how they spin it into elaborate but clumsy criticism of Salmond. I can always relay on this title for a good laugh, thanks to the comedic editorial slants and secondary school standard of writting. I doubt the sales figures give much cheer to them in return, however.
22

Jardine,

27/04/2008 04:42:05
Scots trusting ANYONE with their wallets?

Shurely shome mishtake?
23

Auld Twa,

Edinburgh 27/04/2008 08:03:58
Had a look at the pdf and don't think that this can be taken as a serious poll, an awful lot of wasted effort. There is little correlation between the poll results and the article.
Are they ever going to publish the "real" poll we have been waiting on for three weeks now.
What about Gordon Brown ? Statements on Zimbabwe so far have taken precedence over ones on the fuel problems. Fuel price inflation will probably exceed the level in Zimbabwe here in the next few days.
24

Linda,

Edinburgh 27/04/2008 08:14:27
Where is the Scotland On Sunday poll they promised to publish two weeks ago?

I can only assume the results were too favourable to SNP and Alex Salmond so they commissioned another poll
25

Alfred E. Neuman,

27/04/2008 08:16:59
Salmond gets two thumbs down.

But I guess he is better than Wendy Alexander, who Scotland would also like to vote for. No accounting for taste.
26

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 27/04/2008 08:30:37
The poll shows just how stupid the average Scots voter is and is another reason why the franchise should be restricted, particularly in the West of this country. 54% of voters trusted that twisted auld rogue Dewar with their wallets and look at the 400 odd million bargain at Holyrood he saddled us with. All for his own vanity.
27

roughrider,

Glasgow 27/04/2008 08:38:57
Dour Dewar. In May 1999, 54% of Scots said they would trust the former Scottish Labour leader with their wallet.I wouldn't have trusted that London controlled ponce with a my biscuit tin never mind my wallet.
28

brownlie,

27/04/2008 08:56:39
6 Nacho

So those who cannot speak English are half-wits? I'd like to be watching when you tell Carlos Cuellar your opinion! Strange, too, that you adopt a Spanish/French name as your monicker.
29

brownlie,

27/04/2008 08:59:33
30 Rules for seperation

"Salmond mainly appears good because the rest are so poor".

Oh dear, the nats will probably say the rest are so poor because of successive unionist budgets.

According to reports Lord George is not exactly poor!!!
30

BIG EYE,

Paisley 27/04/2008 09:10:01
This poll is one of the most stupid polls I have ever read.

What was it's purpose?

Glad I wasn't one of those polled as the were questioned on the basis of calling the First Minister a series of playground insults.

Where were the serious questions about what Alex Salmond and his government have been doing during the last year?

I think I know the answer as the writers would hate to know the real answers about how Scots view this professional and efficient Government
31

Boy Wonder,

27/04/2008 09:10:18
"The SNP leader's critics often characterise him as smug and self-satisfied."

Espacially the writers of the article. Eating humble pie now, are they?
32

Union is Best,

27/04/2008 09:37:18
I can't pretend these poll results are not a set back for us Unionists. Having invested thousands into probing the biggest ideas of Scottish politics - whether Salmond is 'patronising', 'smug', 'sexist' and 'conceited' and having found he is not, I am now struggling to translate these findings to a negative unionists narrative on local income tax, energy policy, and the constitutional future of Scotland.
33

Calum10,

27/04/2008 09:45:57
This must have been a very painful story for Kenny Farquharson and Murdo MacLeod to write. Every key press must have left the Unionist Dynamic Duo in agony. This pair of Unionist hacks must have been utterly grief stricken when they finally submitted this piece to the SOS editors.

Never mind guys, tomorrow you can go back to your old job of sniping at the SNP. Why deal in the painful truth when the lies are a lot more fun.

34

McX,

27/04/2008 09:50:54
#41 'Union is Best', I feel your pain.

Never mind old Etonians Cameron and Johnson might put up a better defence of the union than the WENDY and Broon.
35

brownlie,

27/04/2008 09:52:42
41 Union is Blessed

Nonsense - this is not a set-back for us unionists. The article is a prime example of how to put a negative spin on a poll which is favourable to the nats and we should take lessons from that. Negativity is what we do best and will be our saviour under Jackie and Wendy. HM will be along shortly with our favoured 23% which is the only poll we recognise. Alfred E is stuck in the jacket again so its all hands to the pump until he frees himself.
36

GM,

27/04/2008 09:54:27
Only here could such a positive poll be reported as -


"Yet only 32% of Scots would describe him as arrogant; 34% as patronising; and 24% as conceited."

"and while three out of 10 might seem like a low score it is the best Salmond has ever achieved."

"But he has a long way to go before he can match the standing of Donald Dewar."

"Only 43% of voters describe him as 'honest' and only 31% believe he has 'the best ideas for improving people's lives'"


This article is a total lesson in how to take something positive and spin it to appear negative... something that Labout et al in Scotland have been trying to do for over a year now, but most people it seems see straight through it.

Why do they persist?

The answer is, its their own arrogance. They think the public are some great unwashed non-thinking body of people who will believe any drivvle printed by the unionistas because they are the ones who *deserve* to be in power!

Its truly laughable - they haven't learned their lesson in over a year now.




37

McX,

27/04/2008 09:56:20
#43 Happy, are you sure you're truly happy?

You don't appear to actually know anything about what's happening in Scotland, what the dispute is about, how the opposition in Scotland are leading the way in asking probing questions about hungry caterpillars with access to powerful corriders...

I put it to you sir, that you are in fact a dolt, a dunderheid, a dobber a throwback to the halcyon days of Thatcher, a nyaff nay a posturing mountebank.

Begone with your idiocy and return to the Mail on Sunday whence you came.
38

The west awake,

Argyll 27/04/2008 10:03:24
"But he has a long way to go before he can match the standing of Donald Dewar. In May 1999, 54% of Scots said they would trust the former Scottish Labour leader with their wallet."

I would have trusted Dewar with my wallet - but not my country.

While head of the "fighting 50" Labour MPs entrusted by the Scottish people to defend us against the out-of-control Tories under Thatcher in the 80s, he and the other 49 did - absolutely nothing! Instead of standing up for us,he and his fellow useless Labour cowards stood and watch as Scotland was torn to pieces by Thatchers brownshirts.
39

brownlie,

27/04/2008 10:08:19
43 Happy English

Quite right, sir, these greedy scots should forfeit their pensions - the part that's left after Gordon plundered them - in order that their employer can improve on his already high position on the very rich list.
40

Union is Best,

27/04/2008 10:09:35
48. Happy English! Well said, Scots are subsidised hand-out junkies who produce nothing of economic worth! We should cling on to Lodnon for all we are worth, which is not much!
41

Mike555,

27/04/2008 10:09:42
It's not surprising that Alex Salmond is on a high since he is up against the worst Labour opposition ever, both in Westminster and Holyrood.

Brown never listens, robs the poor by giving their hard earned cash to the well off and Wendy I'm afraid is a total waste of space. It's wake up time or that other lot will march in by a landslide.
42

brownlie,

27/04/2008 10:10:35
48 happy

Great post - full of substance and free of insult - that will put the scots in their place.
43

donald,

glasgow 27/04/2008 10:15:46
The Herald pulled the real pol on the grounds of the SNP answering back.
44

Grant,

Scotland 27/04/2008 10:16:16
#48 Given the recent revelations that £25m per day of tax revenue goes through Grangemouth from the Forties fields, equating to £9.1bn per year (and that is only half the amount generated from the North Sea)

Happy English, next time you meet a Scot in the deep south of England - stop him and thank him.

Either we Scots are the most charitable and giving nation in the world, sponsoring the UK Treasury with our resources.

Or we've been taken for a bunch of mugs.
45

McX,

27/04/2008 10:18:18
#48

" Mr Salmond is a coward

( what evidence is there of this slur and insult?)

where is he while this fuel dispute is on.

(He's in Hollyrood running the country)

This is making Scotland look very weak,

(if anything it's reminding the people of Scotland just how much money flows through our country into your country)

how could Scotland have Independence they could not afford millions of pounds every day it would cripple you,

( are you sure you don't want to rephrase that question it makes you come across a bit special)

the rest of Britain are having to pay for those greedy men

(do you have any evidence to support this compellingly stupid statement?)

and even if they had the Oil it would not pay for it,

(Ditto you're coming across a bit confused here, are you still drunk?)

Europe and England are now producing more fuel to keep the flow going

(Where exactly in England are you producing oil? The oil being transported has already been stored in large tanks which are called reserves)

, caused by greedy Scottish workers,

(When does it become greed to defend the rights and conditions you're entitled to according to your employment contract?)

All this is not made in Westminister it is home grown Scottish.

(Is English your first language old crocus? You appear to have a particularly bad habit of mangling syntax and spelling.)

There you go light on insults, I still contend you're not Happy about being English, admit it you'd rather be Scottish. Go on.
46

Grant,

Scotland 27/04/2008 10:19:10
It's good to see that Prime Minister Salmond enjoys a high rating in Scotland. There's a good article in The Observer:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/apr/27/scotland.scotland

Times certainly are changing.
47

Union is Best,

27/04/2008 10:27:17
There is some good news. From the Sunday Times Rich List "A decade of Labour government has been better for the super rich than even a Tory government would have been. They have neutered politicians of the left".

Good thing too.
48

antifa,

27/04/2008 10:27:28
A powerful moral case for intellectual honesty is made in this this essay by George Orwell:

http://www.george-orwell.org/Notes_on_Nationalism/0.html

It is focused on various types of "nationalism" but is not really a criticism of nationalism, more a critique of a certain habit of mind.

Posters of both nationalist and unionist persuasion could learn from it.

Now, let's be honest with ourselves. Is it a source of concern that Salmond is popular with richer people, and unpopular with the poor, and more popular with the old than the young?

The source of these trends might just be ignorance of what the SNP is trying to do (older and richer folk might be better informed) but I still think it's worth reflecting on.

On the first point, if we look at the major policies of the SNP, many are about making universally free what was previously free only for the poor. Where are the policies that directly target the poor?

The only one I can think of is the new grants for council housing, but 240 new properties is not going to make much difference - at most it will only affect around 1000 people.

On the second point, it is possible to see a bias in SNP policies in favour of the old. The LIT, for example, will benefit older, asset-rich households at the expense of young couples.
49

Union is Best,

27/04/2008 10:28:26
58. Happy English - as one Brit Nat Unionist to another, the phrase "I do not doubt that Scotland gives generously to the UK budget" seems to undermine our case!
50

McX,

27/04/2008 10:32:47
#60 Antifafa

"Now, let's be honest with ourselves. Is it a source of concern that Salmond is popular with richer people, and unpopular with the poor, and more popular with the old than the young?"

Now let's be honest you made that up didn't you, you pesky minx you?
51

brownlie,

27/04/2008 10:35:46
60 antifa

Great post - the negativity is precisely what us unionists must emphasis in order to damp down the "feel-good" factor and optimism about Scotland's future engendered by the SNP. We know that it is quite wrong to state that the LIT will benefit older, asset-rich, househols but we must keep on saying it, and similar untruths, regardless.
52

Alfred E. Neuman,

27/04/2008 10:41:24
I do find the nat-wits comments amusing. I think half of them actually fancy Alex Salmond, they are hanging around here and worshipping like a cult leader.

Imagine a newspaper ran an article that was bias and critical of any other party leader. Do you think those who vote for that party would log on and worship him?

I can only conclude one of two things. That there are people paid to come on here and campaign for the SNP or that there are a few SNP worshippers who have lost sense of reality.
53

Union is Best,

27/04/2008 10:47:47
65. ALfred, good thing you did not log on to comment on a Salmond story, as those who do are obsessed with the fiend!
54

McX,

27/04/2008 10:50:58
#64 Now do listen old fruit, you're tying yourself up in riddles, spelling appears to be the least of your problems. I'd say you're quite proficient in mangling grammar but seem to appear a tad confused as to what constitutes debate.

Take a deep breath and think long and hard about what it is you're trying to say, perhaps peel an orange or chant for a few moments, and only then commit your thoughts to the keyboard, and please read aloud what you're trying to post before pressing the 'post comment' button. Remember grammar is a courtesy to your reader.

I'm delighted that you live in a Mews house, drive two cars and have a job. I live in a castle, drive a car, a motorbike, a motorhome, a boat and a paraglider.

I employ three former Polish prostitutes to keep them and the castle clean. I have numerous children and several ex wives. I'm always looking to add to my collection. Wink wink.
55

McX,

27/04/2008 11:00:56
#68 err you posted #64. As I say sweetpea do try and read before posting. Right I'm off out to enjoy the day, the sun is shining and Independence is ever closer. Toodles
56

Union is Best,

27/04/2008 11:03:11
69. Ciderman is currently undergoing treatment for his undescended testes, he will be along shortly, along with Highland Mighty. They may be put off by the headline, depressing as it is for us Unionists - honestly, you would think a year of negativity and mud slinging would have more effect?
57

Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 27/04/2008 11:03:20
Sadly Happy English, oil is a matter still devolved to Westmincester.

Independence from you lot? BRING IT ON.
58

brownlie,

27/04/2008 11:05:22
69 Col.

Good morning, Colonel, my colleague Union is busy briefing HM on polls. Ciderman is currently trying to get Alfred out of the jacket and will be along shortly.
59

brownlie,

27/04/2008 11:07:33
71 Union
Sorry union and colonel - Jackie's mixed up the briefing papers again!
60

Union is Best,

27/04/2008 11:15:06
75. Erm, Happy English - we Unionists who oppose the SNP prefer to play down the economic contribution of North Sea Oil, now you are saying it has a massive impact! You are not helping us!
61

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27/04/2008 11:22:35
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Alfred E. Neuman,

27/04/2008 11:25:27
76 Union is Best

Wow! Do you know about "oil"? You sound really clever.

Go and do a wee "oil is ours, independents now!" shout for us? There's a good laddy.

Do you know how to get it out the ground or process it by the way? Seems only a few Scots people do, imagine they had the same selfish outlook as you? Well, the country could be held to ransom every other week for their personal gain.

Now, back to University with you, an independent Scotland cannot flourish just with workers who know how to answer a telephone and write short stories.
63

karinxxx,

27/04/2008 11:29:55
well the results of that were interesting and very good for alex salmond but you wouldnt think it to read the way the sos spun the story.

69 percent of those polled think alex stands up for scotland.

53 percent think he is likeable.

68 percent think he is intelligent

43 percent think he is honest

and 45 percent obviously think he is in touch with peoples concerns.

Great results.

However sos if you think this poll is going to make us forget about the one you wouldnt publish then think again.
64

karinxxx,

27/04/2008 11:31:52
and by the way your the poll is also flawed because to be valid every adult in scotland has to have an equal chance of being chosen and if the numbers are pulled from the telephone book then all those who are ex directory dont have a chance so your poll is automatically invalid. so there.
65

shivago8,

livingston 27/04/2008 11:36:10
Well done Alex and your party,you have achieved more for Scotland than the LLLLLLLLaaaaaaBBBBBBooooouuuuurrrr party have done in 10 years.
Keep Bendy Wendy sweet,as we want her to remain in office as every time she opens her north and south she puts her foot in it
66

Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 27/04/2008 11:38:09
Tut tut Happy Slappy English, you know as well as I that English MPs have the noses in the trough whilst our oil & taxes flood south to the Treasury.

By the way you can keep the turncoats Brown, Darling et al. You deserve each other.
67

brownlie,

27/04/2008 11:41:18
79 Alfred

Congratulations on two front. Firstly, for getting out of the jacket and, secondly, for posting your sensible and well-reasoned - heavily reliant on facts - contribution.
68

Alfred E. Neuman,

27/04/2008 11:41:40
I think that Methalions better invent a new moniker character that blasts the Scotsman for bias against Labour.

It is rather telling that there are two stories running today on Brown and Salmond and only people are chipping in to defend Salmond.

The SNP are worshippers not voters. The minority pressure group has more in common with scientology than you could possibly know.

Anyone who disagrees with the SNP will be "fair gamed" on this site.

Shameful.
69

Union is Best,

27/04/2008 11:50:40
85. ALfred - you don't get paid per post for repeating the same post on different threads! Jackie is docking you for that one. Otherwise great work!
70

Union is Best,

27/04/2008 11:55:51
--------A Labour MP told the London Evening Standard that Brown had "recently got through three mobile phones in one week by hurling them against the wall in anger".
Right now there is a mini boom in rumours about the PM's psychological condition. He's variously said to have taken a wobbly after the election-that-never-was, plunged into depression over Christmas, and brought in the New Year by kicking chairs across the room.
-------------------
Why did SoS not include a question on whether people perceive Salmond to be psychologically unstable and prone to tantrums - it seems unfair and one-sided to just let people think this is an issue that only affects our Unionist leader Brown!
71

Alfred E. Neuman,

27/04/2008 12:05:45
88 Methalions

You are also brownlie and McX and what have you?
72

Alfred E. Neuman,

27/04/2008 12:09:18
Actually, it's not winter any more so can make better use of this afternoon.

If someone would be kind enough to log on and fake me a couple times in my absence I would grateful.

"Salmond gets two thumbs down", "the cult of the SNP have worshippers not voters", "they will fair game you like scientologists" and so on, you now the stuff.
73

John S,

27/04/2008 12:23:56
#86 - It wassnae me -An independent Scotland would set up an oil fund.
The Petroleum Fund of Norway is owned by the people of Norway.
On January 2008 it was worth $384 billion - The fund, created in 1990, invests Norway's oil and gas wealth in foreign stocks and bonds to save for future generations when the oil runs out and to shield the Norwegian economy and currency from the threat of overheating through huge oil income.
It is Europe's biggest sovereign wealth fund and worth about $81,000 per capita of Norway's nearly 4.74 million population.
74

antifa,

27/04/2008 12:27:58
62 - "Now let's be honest you made that up didn't you, you pesky minx you?"

No, I didn't make it up. It's from the article:

"The biggest Salmond sceptics are those in the 18-24 age group...Our poll also reveals the strongest enthusiasm for Salmond comes from high-income ABC1 socioeconomic groups. Poorer Scots have a significantly lower opinion of him."

63 - LIT will favour older households (who are more likely to be asset-rich and income poor) over the young (who are likely to be the opposite): that is an objective fact.

I mention it not because I am against LIT (I'm not sure either way) but because the article fails to provide any reason why support for the SNP might be more popular among the old than the young.

75

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 12:36:26
91
Faking you? Maybe it's your Body Thetans?
76

Union is Best,

27/04/2008 12:38:36
96. Please do not mock Alfie. He is having a parnoid episode, seeing Meths everywhere and whinging, whining and dribbling all ways in his obsession about it.
77

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 12:47:59
97
Perhaps he's drinking meths.Would that explain it you think?
78

James,

Dundee 27/04/2008 13:06:59
#24 Dundee is not a different time zone.
There are a few 'back doors' to the website where you can access earlier.
79

Robert Mason,

Larkhall 27/04/2008 13:43:01
It is time we Scots put more water in our whisky.
80

Eve,

Scotland bonnie Scotland 27/04/2008 13:53:59
#14 Jimmy the Pie: Whos he I thought it was Edd Balls that was next in line to be PM (if the Labour party was still to be in power)
81

brownlie,

27/04/2008 13:55:06
91 Alfred

I only post as brownlie which happens to be my name. Ask ciderman/highland Am2,UiB or even yourself in your more rational moments. Don't forget it's four of the red tablets, four of the white and four of the blue - colour coded so you won't forget.
82

Eve,

Scotland Bonnie Scotland 27/04/2008 13:57:06
#102 Robert Mason: Eh!!!! AND yer point is?

You apling that the guid people of Scotland drink more Whisky than water!!!

You may have a point about Scots having to drink more water.

BUT adding more of it to the whisky just seems pure warped.
83

Eve,

Scotland 27/04/2008 14:10:54
#106 Bob10: No, defently on the same time zone!!

Thats cruel of you to suggest that. I'm found of the folk from Dundee
84

Eve,

Scotland Bonnie Scotland 27/04/2008 14:13:30
#77 Col. Blimp­IV*:

Aye
Nae (Monacies should all exist in fair tales)
85

Union is Best,

27/04/2008 14:19:21
109. This is a disgrace! The super rich should be voting for Labour!
--------------------------------------------
The richest 1,000 people in Britain have seen their wealth quadruple under Labour, according to The Sunday Times Rich List published today. Even under Gordon Brown’s brief premiership their fortunes have soared by 15%, just as the financial squeeze and faltering house prices have hit ordinary people.

The collective wealth of the 1,000 richest has jumped to £412 billion, up from £99 billion in 1997. Total net wealth during the same period has slightly more than doubled.

“The 11 years of Labour have been absolutely fantastic for the super-rich,” said Philip Beresford, compiler of the list. “Having a friendly Labour government has almost been better than having a Tory one; it has neutered politicians on the left.”

86

Eve,

Scotland 27/04/2008 14:34:20
#109: Acording to the results:
144 of thoes asked belong to Social economic group AB.

204 of thoes asked belong to Social economic group C1.

167 of thoes asked belong to Social economic group C2.

243 of thoes asked belong to Social economic group DE.

Note that the bottom two Social economic groups are place togiver. As are the top two Social economic groups.

This tells you that more people in the lowest social ecomic group were ask than thoes in the higher.

It is a fact that a large percentage of people from the lower Social econimic groups in Scotland use to vote labour no matter what.

So yer wrong pal it on the contry shows that Alex Samlond is becoming more populare with the folk that use to vote Labour no matter what cause they thought they would protect them for the tories (BUT they never did).


87

antifa,

27/04/2008 14:35:45
“The 11 years of Labour have been absolutely fantastic for the super-rich,” said Philip Beresford, compiler of the list. “Having a friendly Labour government has almost been better than having a Tory one; it has neutered politicians on the left.”

Too true. But are there any parties in in the UK with the guts to change this?

88

Union is Best,

27/04/2008 14:38:39
113. We have the guts to double tax on the lowest paid. That should sort it.
89

Eve,

Scotland 27/04/2008 14:41:04
"Scottish Opinion contacted 757 Scottish adults by telephone between April 21-25"

Whan you take the figgures from the first table the reposes = 758. Is their a phantom person in there some where of I done a wee miscopy some where.
90

Eve,

Scotland 27/04/2008 14:42:37
#114 Union is Best: They won't get away with that!

91

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 27/04/2008 14:42:43
Compared to Red Wendy and The Lost Boy, Salmond comes acorss as very competent and sensible. I may not agree with all his policies but at least his hand is on the tiller!
92

A Better Way,

Edinburgh 27/04/2008 14:44:30
The amount of Oil money that the Westminster pretendy parliament released in its press releases is very interesting indeed.

Based on their figures Scottish Oil is providing 27.6 billion quid a year into the british Economy.

Scotlands present economy generates 45 billion quid per annum.

Now I know the English orientated numpties will say that these figures are wrong, or whatever else comes into their heads, but an Economy of 72 billion a year in a Country of 5 million people sounds very good to me. Obviously there are many issues left over from 50 years of Westminster control. Like the highest child poverty numbers in Western Europe, and Scottish adults dying at the lowest ages in Europe. The lack of a decent transport system including rail and roads. Investment of a percentage of Oil Monies into trusts for the Scottish Nations future generations. The list goes on and on.

The bottom line is that we Scots will be minted and London will go bust. We are paying for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. We are paying for the London Olympics. We are providing the Trough for Westminster Politicians to stick their snouts in. As a matter of fact we are keeping them in London in a manner they got used to at the expense of the Nation of Scotland.

It is most definately Time.

By the way, the replacement Poll in this rag was done on the very cheap by some mob in Corstorphine. Never run a poll in their lifes and are probably a business owned by the hootsman.

WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE ORIGINAL POLL MR EDITOR. FALSE ADVERTISING AND ALL THAT,MAY APPLY HERE, SO GET THE REAL POLL UP NOW.

ARE THE HOOTSMAN REALLY THAT STUCK FOR MONEY THAT THEY HAD TO DO IT ON THE VERY CHEAP. TURNOVER IS BEGINNING TO SUFFER. LESS THAN 50,000 NOW I HERE.
93

brownlie,

27/04/2008 14:45:29
116 Eve

Oh yes we will! We have made the poor poorer since 1997 and they still vote for us so we must be getting something right.
94

A Better Way,

Edinburgh 27/04/2008 14:53:11
MR. ANGRY,

Welcome to the light.

Even the most fervent SNP supporter does not agree with everything Alex Salmond stands for. By the very nature of the SNP, Scots are encouraged to vote for the New Scottish Political Parties that will form after Independance. Me I am after a Country that values business investment, but has a very strong sense of community, and providing opportunities for all.Lifting up the skill base to what it once was is a top priority.
95

A Better Way,

Edinburgh 27/04/2008 15:01:28
By the way I also support the idea that runs in Australia. Employees and Employers are legally bound to contribute to all employees Superannuation. I would suggest 5% by each party. I am also a supporter of the fact that companies legally cannot touch these contributions, and that they are paid into Pension Funds, to earn interest and be invested into the economical future of Scotland. The idea that my super is growing in the top 50 of the Stock Exchange or are part of some new office block helps one sleep a bit better at night.

Every Scottish Person knows that they will retire to a save secure pension scheme and not be a burden on the community.
96

Eve,

Scotland 27/04/2008 15:22:07
#119 brownlie:
Poor may = a lot of thing BUT
Poor dosenae = Stuiped!

97

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 27/04/2008 15:22:53
Supporters of the Labour Party in Scotland and Scottish Conservative Party complain about the dire threat of
the Nationalists when, indirectly, both these parties are wholly responsible for the present constitutional situation? They are two sides of the same political coin.

At the end of the 20th Century, the disasterous intransigence and subsequent wipeout of the out-of-touch indigenous Tories, and upsurge in support for Devolution introduced by New Labour, has ultimately
benefited the Nationalists.

In 2007, the Scots Electorate did not vote for the Nationalists to bring about Independence but to
give them an opportunity in government after the ineffectual Labour/Lib-Dem coalitions legislative ticket machine.

All the Unionist parties complain about broken promises and lack of legislation at Holyorood but so far "small government" appears to be working exceptionally well!

It appears the Unionist parties are bereft of ideas, and forget that they are the collective majority whilst this wafer-thin minority Nationalist administration runs rings around them at Holyrood, a chamber created for Develoved Unionist Government!

98

Eve,

Scotland 27/04/2008 15:26:26
#118 A Better Way: May be there system convenuntly crashed.

It's Odd take two days to type up the results from over 700 phone calls.

BUT takes weeks to type / calculate the the reults of an internet poll.
99

Eve,

Scotland 27/04/2008 15:32:03
#123 Mr. Lachie Todd: Whats that! Do they have two heads or two tails?

And would that be the delitful union coins, which few people realise they have one because they are very sutle.

I notice cause I've always had a thing about pictures on coins ever since they came out. Cause I liked the idea of spending the ugly coins 1st. It's a hard habit to get out of.
100

Eve,

Scotland 27/04/2008 15:34:27
oops should really mention that in comment #125 I was refening to £1 coins, £2 & £5 coins.

And was really talking about when the £1 notes became less used and we got lots of £1 coins in there place.
101

Eve,

Scotland 27/04/2008 15:36:51
#126 Alfred E. Neum­­­an: Why did you do that?

102

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 15:49:15
126
Yes Alf, thats a good idea.Fill the bath with jeyes fluid and plunge your computer in.It has to be plugged in mind;-)
103

Eve,

Scotland 27/04/2008 15:58:49
130 Alf: I asked why NOT how?
104

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 16:18:30
133
Oh, Trump. I'm sorry, I thought there was something wrong with you.

105

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27/04/2008 16:19:45
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
106

Nikostratos,

27/04/2008 16:42:32
#139

meths hows the Euro to pound doing...........ouch.
107

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 16:48:14
141
It's taken a pounding...ouch.
108

Nikostratos,

27/04/2008 16:51:41
just got back from tenerife double ..ouch
109

Scotindy,

Los Angeles 27/04/2008 17:16:29
How come you never called me????? Never mind I voted in the real poll, where it was a simple yes or no to Salmond. Please can you tell me where the RESULTS are?????????
110

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 17:34:26
Another pogrom by the pony-tails I see.
Farewell forever Alf.(Sniff)I'll miss at least one of you...
111

 Ayrshire Scot™,

27/04/2008 18:11:11
139. Hoos poos and all feathers in hats at full mast, C the L.

Who got bumped? (mind looks like someone deregistered themselves rather than got deleted)
112

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 18:19:34
140
Ah.A de-register would take off all their posts too?
One of the Alfs jumped into a bath of Jeyes fluid.
113

 Ayrshire Scot™,

27/04/2008 18:24:14
141. Yes, deregistering takes off all the posts under that name (messing up the numbers of the posts) - the pony tails just delete. Too much to hope it was the real Alf is suppose?

114

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 18:27:06
142
That would be MAD.
115

Alfred E. Neuman,

27/04/2008 18:29:46
142 Ayrseshire Scot

You called? "Pip pip" was a dead give away it was you faking me early.

Two thumbs down for Salmond!
116

Alfred E. Neuman,

27/04/2008 18:33:26
146

Oh dear, did you make him say too many naughty words?
117

 Ayrshire Scot™,

27/04/2008 18:36:59
144. Alfie, nope, not me faking you. Make your mind up, I thought you said it was Meths?
118

 Ayrshire Scot™,

27/04/2008 18:38:00
144. And I never write "pip pip"
119

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 18:41:38
150
Yes, I know old crocus.
120

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 18:46:25
156
I only ever post as Conan the Librarian™
121

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 18:50:36
Happy haggis day dudes, is another favourite.
122

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 18:53:52
158
Furry boots?
123

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 18:57:26
161
Are ye fakin yersel noo?
124

indune1,

Canada 27/04/2008 19:21:31


Ayrshire Laddie, Conan and Meths! How the he** are you?

All we need now is Karin, the Col and Yankee Girl.

The snow here is finally gone - all 420 cms of it.
125

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 19:26:50
163
Evening Dunnie.We had quite warm sunshine here today(Edinburgh)
I await the sleet.
126

indune1,

27/04/2008 19:32:44

Hello Conan!

Gorgeous day here though the forecast is for lower temps this week with possibility of snow on Tuesday!


Looks like I will be over to Scotland sometime this summer. Can't wait.

Though it will be a business trip I hope to get up to the highlands- especially my favourite area around Dalmally and Ben Cruachan.

First made it to the top of Ben Cruachan when I was 15.

Hope all is well with you. Cheers, Dunnie.

(For the same strange reason, I am still banned from using my old moniker. For what reason, I will never know).
127

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 19:48:03
165
If you get to Edinburgh, lets meet for a pint.
128

indune1,

27/04/2008 20:07:54

Conan - you're on.

Col - you old reprobate! Perhaps two or three pints!
129

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 20:11:08
167
If thats your tipple Col.
Apparently it even kills the Bird Flu H5N1 virus.
Alfred didn't have a chance.
130

Conan the Librarian™,

27/04/2008 20:15:21
Argh! 161 Meths just got it, sorry.Must have been spooked.
131

indune1,

Canada 27/04/2008 20:39:47


Sounds like a party drink we used to make at university ( Queen's University of Kingston - very Scottish, school song is sung in Gaelic!).

It was called a Purple Jesus. Recipe - scrub out the bathtub. Rinse well. Put stopper in. Empty vast amounts of gin, vodka, ice and any other spirits hanging around. This is to be followed by a couple of gallons of grape juice.

Each invitee to bring drinking vessel of one's choice.
132

indune1,

27/04/2008 20:57:48
Meths! How's the plunge pool?
133

indune1,

27/04/2008 21:14:11
"Maybe our paths will cross. Who knows?"

You never know Meths, you never know.

Re. Dunnie. F..k 'em. Did nothing to insult them - at least openly.

So maybe I will do something soon to really warrant a ban!!!
134

indune1,

27/04/2008 21:34:45
Sage advice. :)
135

indune1,

27/04/2008 21:42:05

Hmm. Woodworm flambe? G'night old chum.
136

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 27/04/2008 23:48:39
Nikostratos @#130,

Brilliant Art Work!

And Very True!
137

Lulach mac Gille Coemgáin,

28/04/2008 00:55:24
If Scotland Achieve Independence - Will the Scotsman re-title itself - the Englishman in the hope of achieving higher readership figures ?
138

Lulach mac Gille Coemgáin,

28/04/2008 00:59:22
Q. How many Scotsmen does it take to change a lightnulb ?

A. One . . . but thirty unionists stand in the background blabbing on about how he couldn’t have managed it without them !
139

Lulach mac Gille Coemgáin,

28/04/2008 01:02:09
Ever noticed, even when you read and spell check your comment - Scotsman publications always seem to manage to slip an error into the comment if you are pro independence and anti onion ?
140

Publius,

London 28/04/2008 09:40:50
"Our poll also reveals the strongest enthusiasm for Salmond comes from high-income ABC1 socioeconomic groups. Poorer Scots have a significantly lower opinion of him."

More evidence that the SNP are Scotland's Tories.
141

Alan B,

28/04/2008 09:56:28
#187 Why? i think there are a number of reasons why this could be the case. the policies of the snp are so different from the tories it does not make sense other than at a very superficial level.



142

Liberal for life,

Dunblane 28/04/2008 10:54:00
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3804449.stm

Its not that long ago everything was rosy in Gordy Broons back yard as well so lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Theres aboslutely nothing wrong with generating a bit of confidence and self belief (as if we Scots don't have these already in plentiful supply) but when arrogance creeps in then watch out. I recall the hot air associated with particular rugby and football teams in the past and then reality kicks in.

We are what we are and to get hoisted by our own petard is a dangerous game to play.

We can all run a business (country) - some more successful than others, but keeping a sense of real proportion is the key.

For example, last night went to see Barabara Dickson perform in Stirling - it was one of her few Scottish dates with another 11 arranged for the rest of the UK. Barbara knows where the larger markets in the UK are and for our economic (and ultimatley social) well being thats the reality and we should never lose sight of what side our bread is best buttered.

So Stop Nationalist Propaganda now before we all live to regret taking the one way street to separation.
143

Publius,

London 28/04/2008 11:13:21
#188

More evidence that SNP are Tories' successors or Scotland's Tories.
(1) Most SNP seats are in the former Tory heartland - North East, Angus, Perthshire. Labour's heartland - Clydeside, the west - has barely been touched by the rise of the SNP.
(2) SNP funds come from businessmen. (Last year the SNP outspent Labour by 4 to 1, but only won 1 more seat at Holyrood.)
(3) SNP leaders associate with big businessmen or defend their activities. Consider Salmond's lame defence of RBS last week. He didn't blame its chief executive and board for digging their own hole.
(4) Both Tories and SNP go in for waving flags and singing nationalist songs. The flags and songs may be different but the idea's the same.

 

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