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Published Date: 20 April 2008
GORDON Brown was on a collision course with Labour's 10p tax rate rebels last night after the Government set its face against concessions.
Some 70 backbenchers and six ministerial aides expressed concern over abolishing the lowest band, amid warnings that millions of society's poorest will be hit.

A number of Parliamentary Private Secretaries – the lowest rung on the ministerial ladder – have spoken publicly about their reservations over the decision to scrap the 10p rate.

Jeff Ennis, aide to Cabinet Office Minister Ed Miliband – one of Brown's closest allies – said "everybody has concerns" over the decision.

Celia Barlow, aide to Science Minister Ian Pearson, has written to Brown about the issue and Dave Anderson, PPS to Higher Education Minister Bill Rammell, told the Evening Standard: "We are doing the wrong thing here."

Stephen Pound, PPS to Employment Minister Stephen Timms, said the issue had become "corrosive" and there was a "groundswell" of people who were not happy about it.

But Government sources quickly moved to play down the chances of a compromise. Treasury Chief Secretary Yvette Cooper went further last night by appearing to rule out either reversing the changes – which were announced in last year's Budget – or offering compensation to the worst affected.

"You have to remember, of course, that when you have a major package of changes like this it isn't possible to help everyone in any one Budget," she said.

Asked whether additional compensation for low earners was an option, she replied: "What I'm saying is that for those who haven't benefited from this year's package of reforms, they will have benefited already from previous Budgets, from previous changes."

Treasury sources have suggested that any scheme to redress the situation could cost up to £8bn, but expressed hope that a solution could be reached "in the fullness of time".

The tax change, which came into force earlier this month, has left many Labour MPs uneasy.

More than 70 have signed one of three Commons motions calling for action on the abolition of the 10p rate.

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  • Last Updated: 20 April 2008 12:37 AM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Labour Party
 
1

Angus Ogg,

19/04/2008 19:55:53
There is already serious talk of Frank Field standing as a Stalking Horse Candidate, if Gordo loses sufficient council seats in the May election to put the fear of the dole office into dozens upon dozens of Marginal Labour MP's. He could be out by the Summer.

Then how many days to the next General Election?

Suppose the big question is, will Gordon Brown call it after the customary 4 years, or will he bottle that to and be dragged kicking and screaming out of Number 10 Downing Street when the Statutory 5 years in power come to an inevitible end? Or will his own Labour MP's boot him out sooner?

Talk about losing touch with your core voters. 5 million will pay the 10p price in loses from their wage packets, but Gordon Brown will pay the Number 10 price.

Oh how rude it is to intrude on private grief. What is it about watching inept politicians being booted out of office by the electorate that is ultimately so satisfying ?
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20/04/2008 00:16:00
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20/04/2008 01:16:23
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An Beal Bacht,

20/04/2008 01:22:52
"Brown faces 70 rebels in tax battle"

Only 70?

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democrate,

numbersup 20/04/2008 01:30:07
what were those 70 doing when this was announced last year? Why did it take them so long to object? Guess we know the answers already.
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Matt there,

somewhere 20/04/2008 01:32:10
Doubtless he'll be thinking: "Only 70? Gosh! I got off lightly!"
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Hen Mc.Stoorie,

20/04/2008 02:16:00
Doubtless he's also contemplating some fine SNP ass
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Shhh... you know who,

If I told you where I was I'd have to...... 20/04/2008 02:53:29
Secret - Eyes Only

Dear Prime Minister, Your tireless efforts to inconvenience, impoverish and demoralise the British public are well noted, and will be rewarded later.

We have now activated Phase 1 of Operation Clearout which, with your continuing cooperation, will ensure that the May elections are a disaster for the Labour Party. Shortly after this, you will receive instructions to remove or demote certain members of your Government, around 70 in number, who have proved themselves unwilling to follow our instructions. Naturally, you will appoint others to take their place. We will advise you of the names in due course.

Kindly ensure that you follow all our instructions carefully. It is important that we progress without delay to Phase 2 of Operation Clearout - the Summer of Discontent. In connection with this, we are displeased to note that some trades unions have ignored our carefully designed plans, and have launched or threatened industrial action without our permission. This must be stopped immediately. We insist on a professionally-run campaign of damage, not some rag tag and bobtail bunch of workshy malcontents with no idea of the big picture. You will ensure that the appropriate security forces are deployed accordingly.

Finally, Northern Rock. This has gone too quiet recently. We require you to arrange another bank run, to keep the public in constant fear of their financial well-being. Perhaps this time you will choose a bank nearer to your home town, one that may have over-extended itself recently.

My syndicate awaits developments.
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Richardinho,

20/04/2008 04:38:50
"What I'm saying is that for those who haven't benefited from this year's package of reforms, they will have benefited already from previous Budgets, from previous changes."

Hear that? Those who've seen their tax doubled should think themselves lucky!

An unbelievably crass comment!
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Scotindy,

Los Angeles 20/04/2008 05:31:58
We are so lucky to be alive.Comment 10 you hit this one on the head. Stupid labour arrogance,they will rue the day they left the people behind for which the labour party was formed to represent. I's quite amazing all Scottish Unionist mp's who go to Westminster immediately forget where they came from and who put them in there. INDEPENDENCE for us at home here in SCOTLAND is the only answer.
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Ubi,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 06:47:39
Where is the surprise? People who know him, have worked with him - Labour supporters such as Campbell and Clarke - warned that Brown would be a disastrous Prime Minister. Fatally flawed, totally uncollegiate.

And so it proves. Let him hang himself and take his comrades with him.
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1745,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 07:13:35
Brown certainly got a package in Yvette Cooper, she is as dictatorial as her boss,suggesting that it is ok to increase taxes for the poorest people because they have benefitted previously.How about the eithteen year olds who have just put a foot on the ladder, what benefit have they had?
I trust that when she is out of office no one will employ her, it can't be too soon
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donald,

glasgow 20/04/2008 07:23:21
Labour MP charged with criminal damage (Gordon Broon?)
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/politics/Labour-MP-charged-with-criminal.4000879.jp
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Tweedmouth,

Coldstream 20/04/2008 07:24:03
"They whom the Gods would destroy the first make mad"
The insensitivity and stupidity of a bunch of Nulab 'pigs in the trough' politicians is almost unbelievable. Brown, Cooper, Miliband, Harman, Straw, Darling - are all on salaries in excess of £100,000 a year, and receive huge 'expenses' - in the region of £150,000 - £200,000 a year. They employ their mothers (Hain), their sons and daughters (Conway), their in-laws, nephews and friends - and employ an army of tax-dodge accountants to ensure that they pay very little tax. Brown has created hundreds of new stealth taxes - effectivley doubling most people's tax burden since 1997. He has sold off the gold reserves, built up the biggest public debt in history and destroyed the education system. Labour will be crushed in the May elections and hopefully this bunch of Scottish Marxists will be sent packing at the next general election.

News today is that Frank Field may stand against Brown - for the leadership - which would be the first time an honest politician has got near the leadership for a generation.
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W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 20/04/2008 07:28:51
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Tweedmouth, Frank Field honest? He's as egocentric as Alex Salmond and the egocentric are not honest.
17

Non!!,

East Britain 20/04/2008 07:54:55
The cutting of the standard rate of tax (with the concomitant elimination of the 10% rate) was represented (by Brown) at the time of its announcement as a tax cut. Now we are told by Yvette Cooper that it would cost the country £8 billion to restore the 10% rate.Perhaps someone can explain this apparent contradiction to me.
18

kimba,

20/04/2008 08:16:51
Never fear Cameron will soon be here!
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Blindscout,

fife 20/04/2008 09:00:00
gordon your time is running out as pm you are crippling the low paid , as if thing arent bad enough just now
But will David Cameron be any better
20

Aqwes,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 09:07:58
20% of Labour MPs want to keep their jobs.
21

kimba,

20/04/2008 09:27:33
21.He couln't be any worse! but yes,I believe he will.
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Muknid,

20/04/2008 09:34:42
Am I wrong or doesn't this situation seem a bit familiar to those who remember the last longish term labour administration? Government borrowing and spending out of control. The leeches looking after themselves and Harold contentedly puffing his pipe and revelling in the good job he was doing, while being humiliated by various jumped up despots clamouring for independence in Africa (M'gobby included).
This time,though,there isn't a Maggie to sort things out, just Lord Snooty and his bunch of silent, useless pals. A fat lot of good they will do.
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Publius,

London 20/04/2008 09:42:42
The poll tax dished the Tories.
Ending the 10 per cent band is dishing Labour.
LIT will dish the SNP.

Politicians always forget the golden rule of tax changes. Those who benefit won't thank you. Those who are penalised will scream like hell.

Wake up SNP. Abandon LIT before it's too late.
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Publius,

London 20/04/2008 09:45:30
#25 Muknid You're right about prime ministers and presidents. The spat between Brown and Mugabe is very similar to the spats that Wilson had.
The present spat is one between a head of government who has wrecked his country's economy and is undermining the rule of law and a head of government of a small country in Africa.
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Nebulous,

Aberdeen 20/04/2008 09:46:21
The Lady's not for turning.

Could you drive a fag paper between them at this point in time?
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Toast,

20/04/2008 10:12:39
Dear Yvette Cooper,if as you say somebody has to suffer, why should it be those who can least afford it that you always pick on,alcohol,cigarettes,utilities,petrol are all going through the roof and you cut their wage packets,socialists,don't make me laugh.
I was in Kirkaldy yesterday and there is a huge groundswell of opinion to get rid of Brown as their MP.
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Angus Ogg,

20/04/2008 11:07:53
#30,

Tell us more, please.

Is it the Kircaldy Cat Catcher that is looking for strays ?

Gordy embarrassingly lost his neighbour, so what's the scoop on his local Labour Club ? Bo Selecta for De Selecta !
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kimba,

20/04/2008 11:24:21
phew! that was close,my 19,766 earnings should increase
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Publius,

London 20/04/2008 11:26:54
#36 Spook
For once you're right. Also if you are single, between 60 and 65, and have no dependent children, and earnings of less than 18 and a half grand, you will be worse off. Very few people over 60 have dependent children - the children have grown up and left the nest.
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jkr,

Lochwinnoch Greater Glasgow 20/04/2008 11:50:46
This will sink Labour and good riddance too.
What a fright they are going to get at the English local elections 1st May.
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jdships,

20/04/2008 12:00:40
Treasury Chief Secretary Yvette Cooper's statement beggars belief !!
"What I'm saying is that for those who haven't benefited from this year's package of reforms, they will have benefited already from previous Budgets, from previous changes."

Could you please elaborate dear lady ?

Have checked what is available and it appears that if your under 25 years of age ,single and earning between £7,000 & £18,000, then you will be worse off.
While I accept that many WILL benefit , what really worries me is that it is the low paid/vulnerable that will suffer

Boy ! Didn't Mr Darling look most uncomfortable this morning on the "Andrew Marr " programme - "untenable position" comes to mind !!
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The Strategist,

20/04/2008 12:04:22
Add to this 10p tax nonsense the fiasco over Northern Rock, the Govt's proposed £50bn bank bail out and it's generally "they can do no wrong" attitude to the banks and it seems to me the Govt has truly lost whatever plot it had in the first place.

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Liberal for life,

Dunblane 20/04/2008 12:25:12
The removal of the 10p tax is a cruel BLOW for the low paid and for the Labour party it is a disgrace of monumental proportions. There is no reason why it cannot be reversed in the autumn budget so lets pile the pressure on the government and support these rebels.
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Clive Hamblin,

Somewhere on the South Coast 20/04/2008 12:31:10
Not for the first time, I'm glad I took early retirement!

I hope that it won't be long before this talentless government start claiming their pensions, before they start wondering if it's worth plundering mine, that is!
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Auld Twa,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 12:41:27
So Brown and Darling will not budge on the 10p rate.
These affected cannot imagine the deprivations that would have been suffered by those who were helped by this government's u-turn on inheritance tax, reduced taxation of non domiciled executives, steadfast refusal to increase the higher rates of tax and the bail out of Northern Rock shareholders.
No you can not and never will as you live in a different world and NuLabour intends that you will remain there.
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MadMax,

20/04/2008 12:57:36
#6 Yes my sentiments entirely.



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weewumman,

Bristol 20/04/2008 13:00:57
#19 I couldn't get that to compute either!

Did Wee Gordie get his sums wrong I have to ask?
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pehman,

sussex 20/04/2008 13:26:30
According to the mail on sunday, des browne is having a breakdown with the stress.

I thought cairns was there for that, just punch him now and again, that would release all that pent up negativity
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zigzag,

Tecumseh Canada 20/04/2008 13:38:51
."..it isn't possible to help everyone in any one Budget," Yvette Cooper.

You gotto pick a pocket 'O two boys
You gotto pick a pocket O' two

Rememeber what you did to Maggie with the Poll Tax...do Gordo the same way lads.
After all he is stealing from you Grannie and Granpa and the lowerst paid.
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Publius,

London 20/04/2008 13:49:23
#19 Non!
#49 Weewumman

You are on to something folks. I heard the figures of seven billion in taxes and five and quarter million people affected. That means they're each down over 1300 a year. Surely not. And of they are down by 130 a year, the figure should be seven hundred million in taxes.
Or is my Lagavullin causing my eyes to glaze over the noughts?
Please somebody. Help.
Publius
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jkr,

Lochwinnoch Greater Glasgow. 20/04/2008 14:43:30
With council tax being what it is now I wonder if some people would prefer the poll tax?
42

Anus (the SNP campaigner),

20/04/2008 15:25:16
Neo LieBore are bad. The SNP by contrast are good. Good things are better than bad things.

The Union is dead.

Brown is a window licker.
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Anus (the SNP campaigner),

20/04/2008 15:30:35
Here is what Neo LieBore have done to Scotland. Imagine a pair of union jack undies with a skid mark on them. That is the union.

The Saltire is a jock strap. Trident is bad too.

FREEDOM NOW.
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marilyn brophy,

shipley w. yorkshire 20/04/2008 15:33:05
#53 Publius
You're maths is right, theirs is wrong but are you really surprised? Their collective inability to do basic maths( even GB) is probably what got them into this mess in the first place and undoubtably accounts for Yvette Cooper's inane, robotic responses. I doubt that she has the mathematical ability to check her own utility bills or payslips but then, maybe she doesn't need to check them as closely as those of us who are being targeted with this tax 'reform'. Talk about driving a wedge between the 'haves' and the 'have nots'. Although it is not their fault I feel like canvassing my neighbours to see who earns £30K pa and saying to them, 'You'll be getting my £210, will you pay my water rates this year?' It would be good to hear from more of the beneficiaries of this tax reform, I'm sure there must be some who are not happy to have more spending money at our expense.
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marilyn brophy,

shipley w. yorkshire 20/04/2008 15:38:33
p.s. I hope you are all lobbying your MPs of all pursuasions, if they fear enough for their seats they may speak out in the house. It would be nice to think that they would speak out because they care about us but, being realistic all we can do is let them know they will be hit where it hurts them most
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Anus (the SNP campaigner),

20/04/2008 15:51:19
In an independent Scotland we would have a minimum wage of £12 and a working week of 25 hours.

You would never be taxed on income unless it was over £60,000, and even then it would just be a fiver.
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Anus (the SNP campaigner),

20/04/2008 16:14:25
Thanks for the compliment, but you should now I only date clued up nationalists who know about the oil and the McCrone report.
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mike3,

Midlands 20/04/2008 16:21:41
"I was in Kirkaldy yesterday and there is a huge groundswell of opinion to get rid of Brown as their MP."


and where would he attempt to pop up next?
50

Agent 99,

20/04/2008 17:08:22
[62] No for nothing were they known in past times as "Rotten boroughs".

Sums up the whole sty of them.
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Agent 99,

20/04/2008 17:19:55
Backing out the budget change.

Who is this drivel about "can't do" supposed to persuade? It looks increasingly like a petulant "won't do" rather than a statement of impossibility.

I have noted in the past that The Chancers statements @ budget time invariably take effect at the following midnight when it comes to straightforward taxes like those on alcohol, tobacco. PAYE falls into this realm too as a straightforward item. Despite the last 10 years of trying to obfuscate matters Brown has not actually succeeded in destroying the PAYE system. It could therefore be changed at whim. Well, not my whim, but Parliament's.

Who's up for forcing the issue, starting with a motion of no confidence in the laybore government's ability to manage the ecomony? Moving swiftly onto a proposal to can the change that eliminates the 10% tax band...

Despite the former howls of protest from some backbench MPs, I don't see a rush to participate.

Quislings one and all.
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 17:23:59
I wonder what wage "Treasury Chief Secretary Yvette Cooper" has to survive on. Other than her salary, no doubt she also has so called "expenses" and "allowances", which are probably more than the annual median income of the rest of the country.
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 17:28:42
I wonder what wage "Treasury Chief Secretary Yvette Cooper" has to survive on. Other than her salary, no doubt she also has so called "expenses" and "allowances", which are probably more than the annual median income of the rest of the country.
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 17:29:46
and why has it taken a year for all the politicians from all the parties to concentrate on this?
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Buckfastleigh,

Devon 20/04/2008 17:41:52
Why does Gordon B. not accept the consequence of his cynical move to penalize the lowest earners in the budget to reward the better off; and now he's been rumbled it's time he stopped digging his party further into the grave. Watch the Local elections in England unravel this one!
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 18:00:05
I would simplify income tax to first £10,000 tax free, can't be many earning as low as that if you believe the 'average' wage figures so won't cost much at all, then 10% on every pound above that, and no higher tax rate at all.
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Anus (the SNP campaigner),

20/04/2008 18:05:22
69 Brian M

You are obviously a clued up SNP voter too. See 59. Don't forget the £12 minimum wage.
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Anus (the SNP campaigner),

20/04/2008 18:12:25
70 The Spook in Leith

Some mungionist nutter tried to tell me that Brown probably done this one year ago to avoid election law which stops giving tax breaks just before an election.

This idiot also claimed that a tax break will help get the middle-class vote as they tend to go to vote more.

I laughed in his face, what a moron! We all know it's about the oil and secrets. They burried this like the McCrone report.

LieBore is rubbish! They will never just reverse this tax break for the rich after election day. Haha.

Brown is a skid mark on Blairs butcher's apron undies.
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Anus (the SNP campaigner),

20/04/2008 18:37:01
75 The Spook from Leith

Everyone hates Neo LieBore for this. The rule in Britain is that the middle classes pay for everything and smegs get stuff for free.

Did you know that a single person will have to do without 40 fags a week now?

Of course with childrens tax credits mummy can still smoke!
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Brian M,

edinburgh 20/04/2008 19:21:41
As time goes by Brown looks so much more like a loser than a ditherer
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pusscat,

East Kilbride 20/04/2008 19:26:41
Many of the Labour stooges claim that they are "uneasy" that the poorer workers and pensioners are subsidising the better off.The usual procedure will apply-Darling will promise to do something in the future,40 or so will pretend that they have gained something and vote for the abolition of the 10% rate,the whips will allow 30 or so to vote against the Govt.,not enough to cause an upset.The whole of the parliamentary Labour party-instead of a few feeling uneasy- should be up in arms at this outrage.The figure of £8B which it will cost to reverse this illustrates the amount which is being taken from the more needy in society.As for not being able to find this money,a similar amount was found immediately to fund the illegal war against Iraq.
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Buckfastleigh,

20/04/2008 20:07:08
We hear that G B has let it be known that he's not budging on this issue. His chancellor is suitably adamant too but suggested that concessions might be introduced in the next budget.

It's straight out of the well known Italian political scientist Scot MacYavelli "The prince will promise his subjects freedom but never deliver, for if he does deliver freedom they will take advantage of it and overthrow him". Oh why am I so cynical?
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Seannair,

Oban 20/04/2008 20:33:41
I watched a Scottish Labour MP- one I had never heard of before - being interviewed on BBC at lunchtime. His name was David Hamilton and he claimed that he was troubled at the impact of Gordon Brown's abolition nof the 10% tax threshhold that would penalise less well off taxpayers.

Presumably he had voted for this change last year when it was introduced by Brown as Chancellor. Did he and his colleagues vote for this at the time although they did not understand the consequences of the change? How stupid was that? Obviously they paid no attention to Alex Salmond when he told the Commons that this would penalise the lowest band of taxpayers.
Then this Diddy stated that there were some issues on which he was unhappy such as Iraq, Trident and the 10%.
Such is the calibre of the Labour Party in Scotland now!
Fortunately for Mr Hamilton and for us the interviewer, Glen Campbell, did not question him too closely
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morris,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 20:41:06
What Gordon Brown faces are 70 members who ,one year ago did not give a flying rats about the low paid and the doubling of their lowest tax band to 20p .Now that they realise it could cost them their seat on the gravy train,they are all hot and bothered.

This only confirms that the New Labour Party have no principles (other than those of self preservation) left,and are unfit for even opposition,and certainly an insult to any socialist beliefs which were once held.
Remove them from your options. England already has, and only an imbecile believes that they can win now.
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bluehead,

edinburgh 20/04/2008 20:48:11
labour must resist this terrible impulse to take from the poor to give to the rich,if ever there was proof
that this mob have lost the way, this is it!
brown and his mob won't be happy till they have driven this country to destruction,it is already to late to
repair the terrible damage that has been done.
wot a mess!!!!!
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morris,

edinburgh 20/04/2008 20:51:03
69

I recognise what you are saying but of course the £10,000 free pay (or code 1000 which is what it is in PAYE speak) has to rise in line with inflation annually,or any Gross Increase to counter inflation would create a larger taxable pay and contribute more tax,and in effect in real terms produce a lesser net pay.The principle however I can understand .
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 21:01:14
We are all obviously missing darling Brown's point that the lower paid should apply for some sort of tax credit/benefit which is supposed to be available.

And if they don't then that's their fault.

Much to the treasury's advantage

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Richardinho,

20/04/2008 21:14:01
It's curious that this issue is only a political hot-potato now, (the change only took effect this month) rather than at the time of the budget.

I recall back then that most of the media were seeing this as a 'tax cut' and completely ignored the potential effects of the abolition of the 10p rate.

It is only since people have started opening their pay packets this month that there's been a scandal about it.

Which suggests that we're not very well served by our media or our politicians for that matter.
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Richardinho,

20/04/2008 21:15:47
#86 Not only that, If everyone who is eligible applied, there would be a massive black hole in the governments budget.

Either this is economic mismanagement on a massive scale or else cynicism of the most despicable kind.
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 21:18:58
#85 I still think that employees should have tax-free income of £10,000

I doubt that the "Treasury" would miss such tax on the lopwer paid

Given the billions the Government have given to Northern Rock and offers to the banking system, it's obvious that the ordinary working taxpayer can go to hell
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Bikefast,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 21:26:40
#69
Sounds good idea. the trouble is what do you do about the people who have income slightly in excess of the £10,000?
Our esteemed Chancellor has said today that he cannot now alter the budget as it is too late as people are already paying the new tax rates. It is not all that long ago when the new tax rates were not effected until "the first pay day after (say) 7th July" so it is not impossible to make changes now. When he says he can't now make changes read "WONT". Why has it taken until now for the Members to be up in arms about the loss of the 10% rate to the lower paid--this warning was given many months ago especially in the BBC 2's "Working Lunch" programme. Perhaps Alistair Darling should try watching it--he may learn something about finance and how his or his boss's decisions affect the people of this country.
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 21:43:36
#90 - the first £10,000 is tax free, you only pay tax on every pound above £10,000, so if you earn £11,000 for example (which is probably what the majority of people earn) you would only pay £100.

Sounds great but such little tax return could not finance our military spending

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FedUpTaxPayer,

Edinburgh 20/04/2008 23:10:09
Brown is an idiot and Labour are a disaster, the sooner they are out of power he better for everyone.

Here's a thought. Instead of wasting countless billions, why not spend money wisely. This gives two benefits. Greater benefits for those in need. Lower taxes for those paying.

But no. Labour spend and waste. Tax and squander. Here's a reminder for future generations - Labour cannot be trusted with the economy. They are incompetent. Don't forget.
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Charlie Ferrier,

Hamilton 20/04/2008 23:21:13
It is typical of left wing governments to tax and spend. This government has outdone itself - usually they tax the very well paid - this time they are picking on the people who actually elected them.

Talk about power corrupting absolutely!

They are clearly so out of touch with reality that they are now marginalised in peoples minds. The only thing that needs to happen is for the election to come.

Everyone is having to tighten their belts - except the this government who believe that everyone elses money is theirs by proxy to take and spend as they see fit - thieves in the night no more - they are robbing us blind during the day as well now!!
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Mike555,

20/04/2008 23:26:49
Both trembling jaw Broon and Darling will not want to be seen doing a Uturn on this disgraceful piece of unfair legislation.

More and more Labour MP's know that the rank and file are seething knowing the middle classes are now better off and that the poorest in society (5.3 Million), are paying for it. Their cushy jobs are now on the line.

Of course Cameron and co are loving this as the Labour parties socialist principles have been swept aside by that cheating liar and robbing wan*er Broon.


 

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