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Published Date: 17 May 2009
LIKE a dinghy navigating a tempest, David Mundell MP yesterday braved the public opprobrium that has been raining down on politicians and their lavish expenses.
"Shoot the buggers," was the verdict of Marlen Jones when the shadow secretary of state for Scotland ran into her at a coffee morning for the ex-standard bearers of the St Ronans Borders Games at the Vale of Leithen Social Club.

"If it was somebo
dy in one of the local mills had been caught doing what they've been doing, they would have been put out of work," Jones went on. "It is just terrible. Mothers and fathers are trying to bring up kids to tell the truth and the people who are supposed to be running the country are diddling the country. It is diabolical."

Public outrage had clearly reached the quiet village of Innerleithen, near Peebles, in Mundell's constituency of Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale, the kind of anger Labour MP Diane Abbot was talking about when she said voters wanted to see "dead MPs hanging from lamp-posts".

Even though Mundell has not been caught up in the scandal, every person he met yesterday wanted to vent their feelings. And Mundell knew he had to face the public as well as the music. "Politics is about getting out and about. You can't hide away just because the public is unhappy," he said before he was confronted by yet another constituent.

"Ordinary working people are finding it hard to survive at moment," said Anna Smith. "Then we learn about this. MPs should be taken to court and made to pay all the money back. I'm just glad that they've been found out."

There was no escape as Mundell moved into the High Street. "I think it is disgusting," said Irene Lindsay, who was off to lunch. "Everyone I speak to feels the same," she added.

"I agree," said her friend Suzanne Kernan. "I travel to work in Edinburgh with Scottish Widows every day and I don't get any expenses – not even for parking. Then you hear of these people being chauffeur driven around their constituencies. It is just terrible."

Wearily, Mundell admitted that his trip to Innerleithen to press the flesh ahead of next month's European elections was unlike any other canvassing expedition he had been on before. "At every door that we've knocked, the people have mentioned it – that's very unusual," he said. "The only other time you experience that is when there is some big local issue. People are very unhappy about this and I think the reputation of the political classes is at an all time low."

Earlier, Mundell faced more wrath as he knocked on doors in the Well's Brae area of the village, where the Tories are fighting against the Liberals for votes.

"It's disgraceful," said the male occupant of one house, with very little prompting.

"I think it's important to find out what people are thinking," Mundell said.

He soon found out. "In Innerleithen, I would imagine that 60 per cent of the population are all below the national minimum wage," Mundell's constituent said. "I'm disgusted with what's happening at Westminster and I'm not sure if I'm going to vote in the local election."

Mundell persisted: "David Cameron is trying to sort it out..."

But his words had little effect. "Poor working people aren't able to claim money like that," the man said. "Not many people around here have moats," he added before closing the door.

Norman Donald, a Conservative supporter, and his wife Sally were prepared to overlook the damaged reputation of politicians and invited Mundell into their house.

"It is absolutely shocking," Donald said. "I work in the knitwear trade in Hawick and I have just accepted a 10 per cent pay cut – again. So this is a very hard pill to swallow."

As the anger mounted, Mundell admitted: "Clearly, you shouldn't claim for clearing a moat. You can't justify that."

"We haven't got a moat," said Sally Donald. "We've only got a fish pond."

"And I clean that myself," added her husband.





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  • Last Updated: 16 May 2009 11:38 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Politicians' expenses
 
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ultravires,

Edinburgh 17/05/2009 00:11:20
so much for the new Tory broom - lets hope their greed sweeps them all away
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17/05/2009 00:14:20
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Observer,,

Glasgow 17/05/2009 00:14:46
Do we shoot him for being an MP or for being a Tory ?
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Wisnaeme,

17/05/2009 01:11:57
My that's shocking that. "Shoot the bu*gers", says Marlen. Ye mind yersel, lassie. Ra polis wull be round at yer door, them being mindful of the anti-terrorist legislation.

So it wull be them hanging frae lamp posts then?

That's a disgrace, yon. Lamp posts serve a better purpose for the dugs.

Widna want a dug troubled by low hanging, Westmidden obstructions when he's about his beezness, would we?

Naw, not even a dug would have a use for a Westmidden politician on the make.

Mind you, there's always their Westmidden expenses free, hand outs of tins of dug food for the charity of.

Come in handy that, for poor, homeless, ex hard working, family dugs.So it would.

PS. Cannae type in bu*gers cause ra "Hootsmon"moderation says it's unsuitable,

...But the "Hootsmon" can print it. Ah shurely think yon's double standards. But there ye go, "Hootsmon" toeing the Westmidden line, yet again.
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Ronald Penman,

GLASGOW 17/05/2009 01:12:30
DOES ANYONE BELIEVE FOR A MOMENT THAT GORBALLS MICK

WILL SEE OUT THE WEEK ?

I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THINGS ARE BAD FOR NEW LABOUR,BUT

HECK,EVEN OLD BETTY BATTENBURGH, OUR BELOVED QUEEN

HAS APPARENTLY BEEN GIVING THE HAPLESS "MAGGIE" BROON

A LAMBASTING. MIND YOU, I WOULDN'T SAY TOO MUCH IF I

WERE IN HER POSITION - UNELECTED, UNDEMOCRATIC,

EXPENSES STILL SECRET DESPITE THE FREEDOM OF

INFORMATION ACT ..........

AND THE FINAL NAIL - NEW LABOUR DOWN TO 16% IN THE

LATEST POLLS.......

IT HAS ALL GONE TONTO FOR THE NEW LABOUR ANIMALS AND

THEIR DUMBASS SUPPORTERS
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Jimbo2,

17/05/2009 01:30:37
Michael Connarty MP, was seen walking through Grangemouth yesterday, head down, wearing a large hat and a scarf wrapped round his face.

Connarty claimed £183,000.00 in expenses last year. Probably the reason why he was trying to remain incognito.
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subrosa,

17/05/2009 01:32:29
# 7

That was exceptionally witty Wardog. :)
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Iainbroch,

17/05/2009 01:58:13
re 6

We could fly him somewhere it would be legal¬! Och tooo miuch malty the night
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madrab,

Edinburgh 17/05/2009 02:25:59
Give us a General Election now.
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Scotindy,

Los Angeles 17/05/2009 02:32:44
Bring on the REFERENDUM and FINALLY GET RID OF Westminster and THIS THIEVING, LIEING, STEELING, RECOURCE SUCKING, UNION WITH england. When are you going to WAKE UP SCOTLAND. INDEPENDENCE IS OUR ONLY ANSWER. IT'S TIME ALL OF THE UNIONISTS AT THE PUBLIC TROUGH. IT'S TIME. LET'S GET RID OF THEM ONCE AND FOR ALL...........
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17/05/2009 02:46:33
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Stephen fae Scotland,

San Francisco (& Edinburgh) 17/05/2009 03:11:51
What a nasty bunch i am reading this paper with. Try focusing on the liars and thieves that have actually been fleecing us all instead of those like Mundell who are doing a good job. Oh but wait, he IS a Tory... guess that's enough for some to just start their frothin... How pathetic.
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Iainbroch,

17/05/2009 03:12:19
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re 18

I wonder how many breaches of the peace the Strathclyde Police had to deal with today following Lieboar Constituency meetings - they might prefer to have old firm derbys every other weekend?
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Mareng,

Edinburgh 17/05/2009 03:18:10
The BBC interview people who respond with tame comments of "It's not fair, is it?"

Only Sky News tells it like it is.

Me? I'd happily string the politicians up, as a warning to others.

At the very least - strip them of their pensions.

Unfortunately, in the circles they swim in - being branded as a thief doesn't seem to hinder their careers. That says it all.
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Mìcheal a Eilean Rùim,

Richmond 17/05/2009 03:54:12
Where is Rufus when we need someone we can trust to explain why this is all the fault of the SNP and Alex Salmond?
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Iainbroch,

17/05/2009 03:59:15
re 22

It is all hands to the shredders tonight and any left over have to destroy the hard drives! Thats the ones who got out of the Constituency meetings alive that is!
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Mareng,

Edinburgh 17/05/2009 05:10:05
Does anyone else feel that the stock answer given by the thieving scum a few weeks ago:
"I did not break any of the rules"

smacks of:

"I was only following orders"

The likeness to Nazis doesn't stop there, in my opinion.
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17/05/2009 05:50:11
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Phil C,

17/05/2009 06:43:38
6,7,8 etc

It would be far more relevant and cleansing to shoot the Labour MPs!
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 17/05/2009 07:34:02
I do not agree with the shooting of Tory MPs.

How about attaching them to chandeliers and throwing them from the tennis court into the nearest moat instead?
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Kenny A,

17/05/2009 07:48:57
TS1

Good comments greatly liked them, Americxa however is as corrupt as a bunch of unmentionables from Westminister.

What realy gets me however are the young career politicians who have never done anything in their lives apart from bulls00t and claim expenses, how can such immature, inexperienced juviniles be expected to give constructive leadership.

While no fan of politics a few names seem to stand out as been there and done it before going into politics.

I will deliberatly only give one comparrison and trust me on this I am no fan of either.

Paddy Ashdown, ex Major in the SBS, I believe, that is something.

Ed Balls, done nothing ever as far as I am aware.

One deserves respect the other cannot avoid contempt.

Even Maggie Thatcher deserved respect or fear, despite her grotesk homicidal policies and put on irritating voice. Cameron could not in any way be found fit to hold her handbag for example.

Here I am giving faint praise to a woman who I think is the Anti Christ incarnate, so what does that make this current bunch of politicians.
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Jim M Glasgow,

17/05/2009 07:53:35
"Even though Mundell has not been caught up in the scandal"

In the words of Widow Twanky "Oh yes he has".

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2009/05/11/mps-face-backlash-at-the-ballot-box-over-expenses-sleaze-86908-21349043/

The News of the World has a rather more blunt view on claiming for popp wreaths.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/299354/Tory-MP-James-Gray-is-exposed-as-a-greedy-skinflint-after-claiming-for-Remembrance-Day-WREATHS-on-expenses-while-Marathon-hero-Phil-Packer-crossing-finishing-line.html

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Tynietiger,

17/05/2009 08:08:00
Was it Michael Martin who authorised the shredding of all MPs expenses prior to 2005 when the authorities knew there were Freedom of Information requests?
Lord George Foulkes who claims £579 a day for his second job of signing in at the House of Lords has been defending Speaker Martin (who stopped all attempts to publicise MPs expenses) in to-day’s Sunday Times.
From Sunday Herald 27 April 2008 A SENIOR Labour peer has been criticised after he claimed nearly £45,000 in overnight expenses to stay in a property he inherited from his late mother.
George Foulkes, who is also an MSP, billed the public to stay in a London flat registered as his company's address.
Quote from Ian Dale's political blog (12 May 2009):-

"Following the noble Lord Foulkes's fulminations earlier about expenses and salaries, how about his own remuneration:-
House of Lords: claimed £54,441 in allowances for 94 days attendance (£579/day)
Earns £36,000 as a Parliamentary Consultant to Eversheds LLP for 36 days work (£1000/day)
Claimed £3061.17 in allowances from the Scottish Parliament between April 2008 and March 2009
Salary for a Member of the Scottish Parliament £56,671.
So he trousers £110,000 in salary from the taxpayer, more than a government minister. And what's more I am sure that Mr Speaker surely can't approve of his almost hourly visits to the Sky News studios giving his views to the media rather than Parliament.... "

He has also been accused by the Scottish Government of wasting public and government time money by asking a large number of parliamentary questions, including how much money the Scottish Government has spent on spacehoppers, and how many times Scottish ministers have met with Scottish musician Sandi Thom. These questions reportedly cost the Government nearly £100,000 to answer.
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tommy,

belfast uk 17/05/2009 08:20:13
and they criticise the BNP
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Conan the Librarian™,

17/05/2009 08:48:23
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And you don't tommy?

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gus1940,

Edinburgh 17/05/2009 09:15:01
Re Diane Abbot and 'dead MP's hanging from lamp-posts' I would prefer to see some preliminary wriggling, screaming and choking.

If Martin has ensured that pre 2005 expenses details have been shredded (surprise surprise - memories of Glenrothes voter's lists)surely it is very difficult to destroy the actual bank transactions which would at the least lead us to the gross expense payments to each bloodsucker.
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Russell M,

Stirling 17/05/2009 09:21:58
Centuries of the abuse of authority in Britain has engendered an attitude of, Get Mine Now, Hang The Rest, which the contemporary political, economic, and financial situations illustrate all too well. Now, if there truly is a British sense of fair play and justice, we must avoid the excesses of the French or even American Revolution. Punish the guilty -- absolutely! Let's just be sure we do not create the next generation bullies and opportunists.

Throughout the Twentieth Century, British politicians and bureaucrats have shown a willingness to sacrifice civil liberties in the name of 'public safety'. In reality the safety and security they were insuring was their own. That safety and financial security which they feel has bred contempt for the rest of us. We've all played a part in creating this sad state of affairs. Lead by the mainstream media we, the public, have cried out for instant action when a more measured approach might have been more just. The Firearms (Amendment) (No. 2) Act 1997 springs to mind.

As a dead white guy of The Enlightenment once said, "Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither." Maybe we're getting the best politicians money can buy, and have no basis on which to complain.
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17/05/2009 09:26:26
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all hypocrits,

Glasgow 17/05/2009 09:53:26
Not condoning what has been done by the MP's but how many other people out there are shouting "disgrace" when maybe they have just finished a"cash in hand" job. Greed is rife in society just look at your local joiner or painter, how much tax do they pay. Not very much I am sure so before everyone shouts "hang them" the they should look around them or maybe even in the mirror.
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Unimpressed one,

17/05/2009 09:54:11
Scots at the heart of the UK banking scandal and also in key positions in a failing Westminster government. Who will trust us again?
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17/05/2009 10:26:08
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17/05/2009 10:29:16
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jtk,

stirling 17/05/2009 10:30:55
when is wee alex going to apologise and all his other nats who are robbing us.
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17/05/2009 10:31:51
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17/05/2009 10:32:42
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gus1940,

Edinburgh 17/05/2009 10:33:16
Surely last thursday's Question Time marked a turning point in UK Politics.

When the heckling and booing broke out the look on the MP's faces reminded me of the great Ceaucescu moment when, standing on the balcony, his expression changed and he realised that the game was up.
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17/05/2009 10:33:30
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Vivas,

Edinburgh 17/05/2009 10:37:52
Only BBC Reporting Scotland could have interviewed punters on the streets of Springburn last week and found 1) a woman who thought "that (Martin) doesn't get half the money folk say he does" and b) a man who "sees (Martin) in the area a lot, think he does a lot for the area".

An (ahem) random sample of 2 (!) punters, both supportive of Martin. Worthy of Pravda itself.
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TWC,

exLabour 17/05/2009 10:38:22
39 Unimpressed one,

None of the thinking scots are at the centre of Government and they were the same guys who relaxed the Banking rules and the MP Expense rules.. Wait it was one guy who did both GORDON BROWN

wise one
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Toast,

Innerleithen 17/05/2009 10:55:57
Even though I have never [or ever will] vote Tory David Mundell has been very helpful on the two occasions I have had reason to contact him,he has a much greater affinity for rural life than either the lib/dems or labour especially who have constantly through their ignorance attacked rural life,and at least he has the guts to get on with his job even though his occupation is currently regarded as the lowest of the low.
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Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 17/05/2009 11:00:07
It certainly looks grim if the polls in the Mail on Sunday and the Independent are any indication of Labour's fortunes/or impending doom:

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1183461/Gordon-Brown-neck-neck-Euro-elections--UKIP.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/two-in-five-shun-three-main-political-parties-1686268.html

It certainly looks like Cameron, should there be a General Election soon, would have a majority of around 150 seats or more. A majority almost entirely delivered by English votes. This may mean that a vote for Labour in Scotland, other than being a vote for ring side seats at the wake, might be no more than a vote to keep Labour from slipping into third place in England (behind the Lib Dems). Could Labour be moving towards the position of being the third party in English politics?

It'll be interesting to see if the Tories get any more than one or two MPs in Scotland. I'd be happy if they got none.
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Phil1,

Edinburgh 17/05/2009 11:08:20
46 "Rufus T Fiarfry,17/05/2009 10:33:30
# 42 jtk
Take yer medecine ya numpty!
Vote SNP"

Why is it always the nasty party who abuse people who have different opinions is it racism, is it fascism or is it petty nationalism and ignorance?

Who is the 'numpty' the nasty abuser or the abused?

Whatever the reason it puts people off politics when nasty people abuse anyone who disagrees with them.

I am off for lunch with Alex two salary and two expenses Alex.
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Phil1,

Edinburgh 17/05/2009 11:15:20
Scottish MSPs are no different - even the Nasty Party MSPs have their snouts in the trough


Of the 28 MSPs currently charging taxpayers for the cost of mortgage interest on a second home in Edinburgh, 12 are Nationalists, half of whom are cabinet secretaries or ministers. They include finance secretary John Swinney and housing minister Alex Neil, who would make profits of £95,000 each if they sold up.

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SianB,

17/05/2009 11:16:42
Phil, it's the nasty contingent that vote for whatever party they think has the best chance of power and the greatest likelihood of distributing largesse.

Most of them were "Labour, man and boy" not so long ago, and if the Conservatives were planning to increase the social security budget, they'd be Tories tomorrow.
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Tom Cambeul,,

North 17/05/2009 11:22:21
CENSORSHIP,Why, when content is removed, is there no reason stated?
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Number 6,

Germany 17/05/2009 11:33:23
Hilarious, the funniest part being Labour, and what's left of their Scottish flock, think it will be "All right on the night", while the tories think the people are going to scuttle out from beneath Labour's skirts, and run to them !!!!!!.

Priceless. Only in Scotland could you find such mindsets.
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SianB,

17/05/2009 11:43:09
Only in Scotland can you find that unique combination of insane naivete utter incompetence.

Her politicians can't manage to build a parliament building on time or budget, let alone a simple tram system in Edinburgh but hey, they can run a country.
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Vivas,

Edinburgh 17/05/2009 11:46:32
Scottish Labour could be caught similtaneously molesting the carcass of a dead donkey, snorting class-A drugs, moving money to Swiss accounts and chanting satanic verses whilst cutting the throats of the firstborn... and BBC Scotland, The Scotsman etc etc would still see nothing untoward happening.

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Curley Bill,

17/05/2009 11:48:47
Phil1: I think the Scottish public have come to realise who the 'nasty' parties are - and it is not the one party who puts Scotland first, led by the man who is Scotland's Greatest Living Politician.
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SianB,

17/05/2009 11:55:27
Scotland's Greatest Living Politician....

Let's face it, it doesn't take much.
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Number 6,

Germany 17/05/2009 11:55:40
The Daily Record have panicked and closed their News forum on their "London based"(their words) website,with no explanation.

Unable to deal with the tidalwave of anti union comments, they have chosen the path of censorship.

Expect less oppertunity to comment as we near the date for the European elections.
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Edward,

17/05/2009 11:55:46
#29 Kenny A
'Ed Balls, done nothing ever as far as I am aware'
Erhm, suggest you read this :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5325590/Ed-Balls-and-Yvette-Cooper-flipped-homes-three-times-MPs-expenses.html
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The Tin Man,

17/05/2009 12:01:16
#60 #6

Don't worry - you can always comment on the Times, or the Telegraph. Not thanking the Daily Record for bringing Holyrood's expenses fiddling to light a couple of years ago? Not remember when Labour, Conservative, SNP, & Lib Dem MSP's were lead kicking and screaming to expenses reform?
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The Tin Man,

17/05/2009 12:03:47
...and despite the reforms, the SNP MSP's are leading all the other parties when it comes to making profits from second homes in Edinburgh, if anyone wants to politicise the issue...
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The Creature from the Back Lagoon,

17/05/2009 12:04:31
# Tin non-Brain Man

You'll never give up won't you!
Trying to keep non stories and old couple of years ago stories alive. Seems unionists like you have a blind eye on other things that happened "a couple of years ago"!
Cheap comments, nothing else.
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The Creature from the Back Lagoon,

17/05/2009 12:09:48
# 51 Phil

What's wrong with you?
So many words, so many questions?
Why don't you just swallow it, and get on with your life?
Unionists on these boards only make stupid comments, there is no discussion possible.
So when they vomit over the thread they'll need accept the word numpty.
Other words are not allowed on here.
So go and and roll out your UK map and keep saying "that's all ours"!
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SianB,

17/05/2009 12:11:11
How cruel of you Tin-Man....didn't you know that crooked behaviour is a non-story when the Scottish Parliament (budgeted cost £40m, actual cost £400m) is concerned?

Only crooked behaviour at Westminster is a story in the brave new world.
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Cabbage'n'Ribz,

17/05/2009 12:14:09
It appears the solution is death to the politicians and anarchy thereafter.
the reality is nothing is done. we meekly accept what is happening as the norm and come the next general election a small percentage may swither whether to put their X in another box.

Candy off a baby? who can blame them.
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The Tin Man,

17/05/2009 12:17:29
#66 SianB

Sorry, I forgot that it is entirely ethical of MSP's to make a personal profit out of their expenses. Silly me!
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SianB,

17/05/2009 12:18:03
Scottish population = 5,495,000

Scottish workers = 2,133,783

Of which, state sector = 579,240

So.....1,554,543 Scottish workers support 3.9m pensioners, children, unemployed and state workers.

Ah, but "sooooroyalllll!".....?

Gross government revenues from the North Sea will fall to £6.9bn this year, declining until scheduled depletion in 2020.

Total govt. spending (Scottish and Westminster) in 2007 was 53.3bn.

Whose pockets will wee Eck be picking after independence?

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SianB,

17/05/2009 12:19:04
govt spending in Scotland by the Scottish parliament and Westminster = £53.3bn
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Queen D,

17/05/2009 12:19:35
I think the media and the MPs still don't get it.
It's not just about expenses it's about Iraq, Afghanistan, spin and lies,surveillance ,eroding of civil liberties and NOT LISTENING.
When MPs are paid a large wage by most peoples standards , it is not enough to vote with the whip and trundle into the right lobby shouting "Aye" or " nay"
Surely they should be questioning and representing their constituents not behaving like zombies following a party line?
Do they spend all their time munching and drinking in the heavily subsidised cafes and bars then rush in to rhubarb ,rhubarb the oppositon , then vote as they are told?
There is shame on the Westminster Parliament and it is not just for claiming extras.
I could not start on my feelings for the fellow Foulkes so I will leave that to another.
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The Tin Man,

17/05/2009 12:20:06
"SENIOR MSPS were last night desperately trying to cling on to almost £2 million of profits tied up in their publicly-funded second homes."

http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2508650.0.0.php
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Edward,

17/05/2009 12:36:17
Can the following actually face their constituents with a clear conscience?
Frank Doran - Aberdeen North
Anne Begg - Aberdeen South
John Reid - Airdrie & Shotts GUILTY http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5301741/John-Reid-claimed-for-a-pouffe-and-a-glittery-loo-seat-on-MPs-expenses.html
Sandra Osborne - Ayr, Carrick & Cumnock
Brian Donohue - Ayrshire Central
Tom Clarke - Coatbridge, Chryston & Bellshill
Rosemary McKenna - Cumbernauld, Kilsyth & Kirkintilloch East
Russell Brown - Dumfries & Galloway
Jim McGovern - Dundee West
Adam Ingram - East Kilbride, Strathaven & Lesmahagow GUILTY
Anne Moffat - East Lothian
Jim Murphy - Renfrewshire East
Gavin Strang - Edinburgh East
Mark Lazarowicz - Edinburgh North & Leith GUILTY
Nigel Griffiths - Edinburgh South GUILTY
Katy Clark - Ayrshire North & Arran
Alistair Darling - Edinburgh South West GUILTY http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5293500/Alistair-Darlings-stamp-duty-paid-by-public-MPs-expenses.html
Eric Joyce - Falkirk
Mohammad Sarwar - Glasgow Central
Ann McKechin - Glasgow North
John Robertson - Glasgow North West
Tom Harris - Glasgow South
Ian Davidson - Glasgow South West
Michael Martin - Glasgow Springburn GUILTY http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5298316/Michael-Martin-Speaker-spent-1400-on-chauffeurs-to-his-local-job-centre-and-Celtic-Park.html
Lindsay Roy - Glenrothes
David Cairns - Inverclyde
Des Browne - Kilmarnock & Loudoun
Gordon Brown - Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath GUILTY http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5293446/MPs-expenses-Gordon-Browns-house-swap-that-let-him-claim-thousands.htm
Jim Hood - Lanark & Hamilton East
Michael Connarty - Linlithgow & Falkirk East
Jim Devine - Livingston
David Hamilton - Midlothian
Frank Roy - Motherwell & Wishaw
Gordon Banks - Ochil & Perthshire South
Jim Sheridan - Paisley & Renfrewshire North
Douglas Alexander - Paisley & Renfrewshire South
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Edward,

17/05/2009 12:36:50
continued :
Thomas McAvoy - Rutherglen & Hamilton West
Anne McGuire - Stirling
John McFall - West Dunbartonshire

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Edward,

17/05/2009 12:38:45
I think the expenses of Nigel Griffiths may be interesting aledgedly in connection with another MP
Aledgedly of course
72

Jack and the Bean Stalk,

London 17/05/2009 12:57:33
@ 73 Add to this list: Tam Dalyell who had put in £18,000 for book shelves just a couple of months before he retired. When so called "working class Labour MPs" mock Tories as Etonians, here in Tam Dalyell of Linlithgow, a posh-speaking English-accented Etonian putting in 100 times the cost of book shelves one gets from IKEA.
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Jack and the Bean Stalk,

London 17/05/2009 13:07:40
Large democratic countries like USA do not have 650 elected reps like Britain has .One could easily cut 50% of MPs in England and 75% of MPs in Scotland as they do very little constituency work in Scotland.
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Vivas,

Edinburgh 17/05/2009 13:10:05
Nary a mention of Darlings serial tax-avoidance on Glen Quisling's pravda sanctioned Poitics Show. But the corkscrew got mentioned 3 times as you'd expect.
75

Dylan fan,

Planet earth 17/05/2009 13:15:11

So, when Scotland becomes independent..you can create the government structure that fits you best! It has had to be difficult all these years having the shadow of England... looming large over you! Always showing the way... And expecting your brave sons to defend her..Time for a change! :)
76

Pilrig,

Livingston 17/05/2009 13:24:58
73 - hooks, crooks & comic singers.
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TWC,

exLabour 17/05/2009 13:48:09
We've still got the Labour poodles trying to Tar the LibDdems and Nats as the same as Labour and the Tories.
It just isn't true and that is why the Polls are so bad for Labour.
The longer Brown delays the worse it will become, SLAB need to draw a lone between themselves and Westminster including changes in policy.
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Tired of Hypocrites,

Mount Forest 17/05/2009 13:57:35
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Russell M,
Stirling 17/05/2009 09:21:58
Best comment I've seen on this media event. When you expect the government to solve all your problems, this is what you get. Unfortunately there's a saying that goes with this" Beware of giving advice, most don't need it and fools won"t need it"
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Tired of Hypocrites,

Mount Forest 17/05/2009 13:58:43
35
Russell M,
Stirling 17/05/2009 09:21:58
Best comment I've seen on this media event. When you expect the government to solve all your problems, this is what you get. Unfortunately there's a saying that goes with this" Beware of giving advice, most don't need it and fools won"t heed it"
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SianB,

17/05/2009 14:46:52
Well, for one, I'm Scottish and I don't think Thatcher was.

For seconds, I was brought up with good Scots values, sadly lacking these days it seems.

Value No. 1 - Don't live beyond your means.
Value No. 2 - Neither a lender nor a borrower be

So:
- Where's the money coming from to make up the deficit?
- Which honest, proven politicians are going to be handling the money?



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McGinty,

Glasgow & Aberdeen 17/05/2009 15:00:59
#38 Agree. There a lot of honest souls out there who have probably never cheated in their lives and have been more givers than getters and for their sakes outrage and indignation is entirely appropriate. However all of us are hypocrites to a certain degree and none of us are perfect. The offenders, though, are elected politicians who constantly make shrill moralistic noises.
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redcliffe62,

17/05/2009 15:38:23
let us get wastemonster fixed first, then go onto brussels and holyrood.
if brussels is as bad as it appears to be then that will knock support for nything european even further.
i have no doubt that all parties are in it up to their necks, but ;abour saying they are as bad as us does not work when blair came in promising to get rid of sleaze, with a holier than thou attitude based on honesty, inmtergrity and hope. seems a lifetime ago. and blair led the worst government in british history in terms of corruption, lies and deceit, with somebody doing a glenrothes and losing his own expenses "accidentally".
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Vivas,

Edinburgh 17/05/2009 18:14:50
Terminally thick analysis from the unionists as you'd expect. Swinney and co. are not getting 2nd home profits any more than I am on my Embra pile. Like them, I actually need to live somewhere in this town. The market went up, the value of the property went up. To make a profit, they'd have to "flip".

Obviously (to anyone with a brain) the problem only arises when parliamentarians either flip these homes to play the housing market and pocket the difference (Blears, Darling et al) or claim for non-existent mortgages (Chaytor, Morley). All shameless members of the peoples party...

However, the BBC website after todays Politics Show would still rather focus on a 20 quid corkscrew. As long as the Scottish media are so infiltrated by quisling Slabourites, this country will never see balanced political reporting.
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the reporter,

Godalming, Surrey. 17/05/2009 20:57:55
Hanging from a lamp post should not be too painfull an experience, provided they have been shot first, as Mussolini discovered.Just does not do to upset the people.
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livilion,

livingston 17/05/2009 22:35:57
Isn't it technically still legal to shoot a Tory in Hawick, but only if you spot him within the town walls after dark on a Sunday, your weapon of choice is a bow-and-arrow, and you shoot from horseback?
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Buckfastleigh,

17/05/2009 22:38:23
How much longer is this "Crucible" style witch hunt to continue? If there are law breaches they should be referred to the Courts. Judgment by newspapers? - no thanks!

Hypocrisy is all very well but what does this do to our realm if not place it under ridicule for the wild search by the heard for the blood sport of MP baiting?

Meanwhile the media id de facto promoting alternative demagogues whose track record makes Bossi Fini and Berlusconi appear far more sensible to voters.


Is the nation going down while we seek for satisfaction? MPs should not be misled by this outcry into believing they can now forget their lawmaking responsibilities and act like fairground artists.
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bumpkin,

18/05/2009 00:24:11
SianB, you never mentioned the westminster deficit, a mere £100 billion annually.
allocate the £10 billion oil cash to scotland, and hey presto scotland is in credit and westminster still has a huge deficit.
You obviously have the thatcher small minded shopkeeper mentality, where the till had to balance at the end of the day, regardless of the long term consequences.
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Electric Hermit,

23/05/2009 16:53:12
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Buckfastleigh

"How much longer is this "Crucible" style witch hunt to continue? If there are law breaches they should be referred to the Courts. Judgment by newspapers? - no thanks!"

I wholeheartedly agree.

 

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