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Published Date: 21 June 2009
MPs ARE expected to back new laws to make expense fiddling an automatic criminal offence this week.
Justice Secretary Jack Straw is in talks with the leaders of other parties to bring forward fresh legislation that would see the introduction of criminal sanctions in the case of serious offences. The moves would tighten up the law after it emerged o
n Friday that Scotland Yard has begun investigations into the expense claims of a number of MPs and peers.

Those at the centre of the investigations include former Agriculture Minister Eliot Morley and Labour MP David Chaytor who claimed for "phantom" mortgages that had already been paid off. The Labour peer Baroness Uddin, who allegedly claimed £100,000 by registering a property as her main home when it was barely occupied is also under investigation.

The inquiries have been prompted by more than 100 complaints from members of the public about apparent expenses abuse. It is thought that prosecutions will only be possible in cases where MPs or Peers set out to deceive the Commons Fees Office.

That escape clause may be closed by Straw this week however, if new tighter legislation is introduced. Parliamentary sources say that the legislation could be rushed through before the July recess, as all the parties attempt to show they are serious about cleaning Westminster up.

It is understood that Westminster is closely following the example of the Scottish Parliament where tighter legislation and sanctions already exist. The new moves will not stop police continuing with their current investigations, which will be considered under existing Fraud laws.

Another peers being looked at by police is Lord Clarke of Hampstead who apologised after claiming up to £18,000 a year in "subsistence" when he often stayed with friends.





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  • Last Updated: 20 June 2009 7:27 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Politicians' expenses
 
1

Willie Mor,

21/06/2009 03:24:55
Why does Westminster say it needs to pass a law to make fraud a crime?

Fraud is fraud and to my knowledge it has always been a criminal offence.

Maybe I am missing something, or is this the reason that politicians who commit fraud don't get done like everyone else.

What absolute tosh.
2

Jim A,

21/06/2009 04:08:19
#Willie, those were my thoughts as well as I was reading this story. Crimes have already been committed, so where are the Police?
3

drunken proffet,

Tassy 21/06/2009 09:03:35
You have left it too long. You now have a large number of second and third generation unemployed who unless some effort is made will lead to a fourth generation. All of them wanting to increase a totally inadequate weekly income to something they can live on. Apart from relaying the railway tracks and cleaning the beaches, I would not know what they are going to do. I reckon you should start a Space Academy, you can dump a lot of items into space.
4

Linda,

Edinburgh 21/06/2009 10:47:07
New Labour in action one law for the rich… the little fish like Devine are got rid off but Darling , Hoon & Co are not even put before the Star Chamber. Read Iain MacWhirter in to-day's Sunday Herald
The party leaders clearly believed that by forcing a few backbenchers into early retirement, they had given sufficient blood sacrifice to public opinion. But this was almost as disreputable as the belated cover-up. The Labour "star chamber" has turned into a kangaroo court which has been bullying the weakest Labour backbenchers into giving up their careers. Why is it only small fry like Jim Devine, Ian Gibson and Margaret Moran have been forced to appear before the disciplinary panel while the bigger fish, like the former front benchers Hazel Blears, Geoff Hoon, James Purnell, Tony McNulty and the Chancellor, Alistair Darling, avoid the inquisition? This is not just bad PR but an offence against natural justice.

And others are getting off Scot free. Last week, Darling let the City off the hook, announcing that there would be no new regulation of the big banks to prevent another credit crisis. There can be no doubt that a major cause of this failure to take action against irresponsible lending, the bonus culture, derivative trading, and the rest has been the moral implosion of the political class. In short: how can they take action against people like Sir Fred Goodwin when they have been caught with their own fingers in the till?
5

Budgie,

INCHINNAN 21/06/2009 13:15:50
The suggestion seems to indicate that only SERIOUS fiddling of expenses will become a criminal offence. Looks like Westminster petty thieves will continue to flourish.
A thief is a thief, and should be prosecuted accordingly.
6

mr broon,

Edinburgh 21/06/2009 14:06:03
It appears this is a bare-faced attempt by Labour, probably with the complete agreement of the Opposition parties, to create some form of legal loophole for existing Members of Parliament?
7

nostress,

grangemouth 21/06/2009 21:40:11
Michael Connarty, Labour MP for Falkirk East and Linlithgow says: "I do not agree with the argument that I'm a better MP than you, because I'm a cheaper MP. I've been 17-years an MP and I've worked my butt off. At the end of the day I don't think that £64,000 is a lot of money."

Bejasus and gommorah...that's a lie for a start! Have you seen the size of Connarty's butt? Doesn't look like he's been working that much at all if you ask me. As for thinking £64,000 isn't a lot of money? Well, maybe not in your corrupt little world Mikey, but I reckon 80% or so of your constituents might just disagree with you there. Especially, when you take into account the £633,467 you've managed to claim on expenses over the past 4 years. Now, that's what I call serious dosh Michael!
8

nostress,

grangemouth 21/06/2009 21:53:40
#4 Linda, completely agree with your feelings there, but just one little pedantic niggle from me - scot-free doesn't have a capital S because it has nothnig to do with Scotland or the Scottish people, but is an old English word meaning payment or reckoning. I know, I know, get a life - but when even the Sunday Herald capitalises the phrase, there is no hope :-)
9

bluehead,

edinburgh 22/06/2009 03:01:59
thats A could idea, for with a bit of luck that should mean there won't be any politicians around any more
I am sure the air will smell nice and fresh for a change

 

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