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Published Date: 22 June 2008
BUSINESSES will be encouraged to monitor the weight of their employees as part of a £56m Government plan to tackle Scotland's obesity epidemic.
Workers will type in their weight every morning – using Government-provided software – allowing occupational health staff to spot significant weight gain and offer early help, under the scheme unveiled by ministers. The Government also plans to appo
int a full-time official charged with liaising with Scottish food firms and encouraging them to make products healthier.

Ministers also want to change the way cooking is taught in the nation's catering colleges by getting young chefs to rely less on salt, sugar, butter and cream, and more on healthy alternatives.

But the plans have attracted criticism from opposition MSPs, who said promotion of exercise in primary schools was being neglected. One business leader said the scheme seemed "heavy handed".

Obesity is estimated to cost the NHS in Scotland £170m a year and Scotland is the second-fattest nation in the developed world behind the United States, according to figures published last year. A quarter of Scots adults were classified as obese in 2003.

The Government's new anti-obesity strategy is being launched today by the public health minister Shona Robison.

Additional measures include spending £19m of the total programme on vouchers for fruit and vegetables for women of childbearing age, pregnant women, and children under five in disadvantaged areas, and a review of commercial sponsorship rules to crack down on advertising and promotion of junk food.

Ministers will order a retraining programme for midwives and health visitors to ensure that they can give the most up-to-date advice to pregnant women and mothers. In addition, the SNP will launch a "cooking bus", which will tour Scotland giving advice on healthy eating.

Robison said: "Obesity is one of the problems that, like climate change, does not have a simple solution and requires a new way of thinking. If we successfully tackle obesity then we will reduce ill-health, and a healthier Scotland is vital for sustaining and growing our economy."

Dr Rachael Wood, an expert in child health at Edinburgh University, said: "I'd be very supportive of efforts to train midwives and health visitors to give advice to pregnant women. It's interesting how they are wanting to talk to food producers about making their products healthier. Until now, we have tended to focus on the demand side."

Iain McMillan, the director of CBI Scotland, said: "I think we will want to look at the detail and we are in favour of promoting health. But it seems that some people are drinking far too much and some are eating far too much and it's everyone else's fault but their own. We need to have far greater regard for the fact that people are responsible for their own welfare. And this seems to be a very heavy-handed approach."

Margaret Curran, the Scottish Labour health spokeswoman, said: "Today's announcement seems half-hearted.

"It's very surprising and disappointing that it does not include key SNP manifesto commitments on guaranteed outside activity for children in disadvantaged communities, and of course two hours' physical education for all schoolchildren."



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  • Last Updated: 21 June 2008 11:08 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Obesity
 
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 22/06/2008 00:19:15

"Scots told to work on their weight"

Its Sunday one will be polite and have the respect for others!

Soo in my 'Polite Way',...

'STICK-IT WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE'

AND STOP TRYING TO CONTROL OUR LIVES!!

WE AINT ALL FAT YOU KNOW!
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mousey,

Edinburgh 22/06/2008 00:22:56
Has anyone noticed how the so called Health Care Professionals all seem to be obese these days? Perhaps they should tackle them before us.
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 22/06/2008 00:31:44
mousey ~2,

Its all,..'Pie in the Sky'

Connotations of control!

One minute they say Scottish Children lead a healthy life, (in this very News Paper)

Now This!

Next we all will be told, how many times we are allowed to have sex in a week!
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 22/06/2008 00:34:48
Scott Webb ~3,

Nothing these days surprises me!

I used to watch the 'Muppet Show' with my Children, never at that time, would I ever believe, that I would be in it!
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Paddi,

22/06/2008 00:53:11
On the same page, £56m to " tackle Scotland's obesity epidemic" and then we read "£4m boost for war on terror"....what a joke.
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Willie Macleod,

Wick 22/06/2008 01:10:27
#8 Ford Transit TDi Maybe we are all bored with your battle with your alter ego.
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walter,

22/06/2008 01:14:31
When the Berlin wall came down they said Stalinism was dead, how wrong they were, it is alive and well and living in Scotland.
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Willie Macleod,

Wick 22/06/2008 01:26:17
#10 Scott Webb Can you be more specific about how and when we are going to be enslaved and living in tents.

I have got some work to do on the house. I wont bother if you could tell me soon.

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 22/06/2008 01:27:35


Looks Like Scott Webb and I will be leading the,..

'Revolution'!

'LONG LIVE THE PEOPLES REVOLUTION!

Down With The 'Brainwashing' Dictatorship!
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Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 01:54:48
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It was terrible Willie.
In a large fenced compound, guarded by large men with dogs, I had a small two man tent which housed four.
The walk ways were a sea of mud.
Food was almost unabtainable, and overpriced when you got it.
If it hadn't been for Jethro Tull, I would have left.
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Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 01:59:14
Argh. "Unobtainable".

Must have been the brown acid.
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Symmachus,

Hadrianople 22/06/2008 02:02:21
Ave Cretins,

Errata - surely you genii have read the Protocols of the, Elders of Zion , which established Kenny McArskill and David Icke as the leaders of mengelian experimentation on female fertility? I woudl ahve though that with your combined IQ of 53 1/2 you'd have worked that out - no??
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Mr A Roy,

22/06/2008 02:11:32
More control freakery again !
get a life hootsman the rest of us have one.
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Willie Macleod,

Wick 22/06/2008 02:20:47
#15 Conan Morning conan Sounds as if you needed an aqualung

If you have a bit of good music you will put up with anything.
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Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 02:27:07
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Ave Symmachus,

Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui...
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Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 02:29:49
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Aye Willie.
Dick Gaughan got me through the eighties;-)
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 22/06/2008 02:32:04

Conan the Librarian ~23,

When and Where,?

Not me Not Now! gonna bed! :)
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Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 02:39:10
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Night Charles.Give DYW a kiss from me.
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Willie Macleod,

Wick 22/06/2008 02:55:09
#27 Scott Webb I fear not what you fear but it is you and others who are being brainwashed and controlled.

Honestly all the video's and what you say I fear that you and others are being taken in by very clever people deluded but clever.

I have watched a lot of what you have posted.

I have heard and read of more conspiracy theories than you can shake a stick at.
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Willie Macleod,

Wick 22/06/2008 03:14:29
#24 Conan Yes Dick Gaughan and Five Hand Reel saw them once in Edinburgh Gave a loan of two Dick Gaughan albums to someone and hav'nt seen them since.
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Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 03:36:44
Well you did ask, Willie.

Scott, the usual time for rounding up suspects...

...is about now...

Survive another night Scott and keep the faith brother:-)
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Willie Macleod,

Wick 22/06/2008 04:41:40
#53 Conan I dont think I will ask again One post reply would have been fine .

Anyway must get to bed catch up with you later Conan.

Scott Webb I know I doubt what you say. But It is done in respect and friendship Best Wishes Willie
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C.U. Jimmy,

China 22/06/2008 06:09:37
Scott Webb, you need to get out more. Try visiting China, for a start. You'd be surprised by the reality here.

Factually, your post #45 is garbage. The cost of living here is very low by UK/US standards, so in fact you don't need any more than 'sweeties' to buy the basics. And people work very hard, unlike the welfare-state junkies at home. However, Chinese salaries are rising at double-figure percentage rates, and have been doing so for years. The really low-value work (e.g. making shoes) is already moving to cheaper countries.

PS: I just lost 2 hours of my life watching that video 'programme' you linked to. Don't you know a comedy when you see one?
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Bejjy,

22/06/2008 06:55:14
#59 C.U. Jimmy

Scott Webb is probably one of the welfare state junkies at home that you refer to.
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W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 22/06/2008 07:05:35
They'll need to take Salmond to the nearest weighbridge.
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C.U. Jimmy,

China 22/06/2008 07:24:55
Scott Webb,

I won't rise to your recycled bait. Try having an original thought for once. Good-bye.
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Mcsnagpile,

22/06/2008 07:50:52
This is Sunday morning –Get doon tae the baker fur fresh well fired rolls and the newspaper. Melt the lard on the Frying pan --get the fried Tatty scones, double egg, black pudding, white pudding, bacon and healthy fried tomato oan—don’t forget plenty o’ salt. Get the pyjamas back on and back into bed and do not forget the crumbs to get you back out of bed this afternoon.
By the way I hope you bloggers are in bed wae yer WIFI.
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Mcsnagpile,

22/06/2008 08:04:09
scott webb???? dinnae pit on the frying pan yell burn yersel.
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elizabeth the first ,

22/06/2008 08:13:26
I think your Mr Salmond is a excellent candidate.
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JT,

22/06/2008 08:50:25
If this is the case, can you get our employers to stop making us work the longest hours in europe, so we can go swimming, to the gym or for a walk after work, without being too late!
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Friend-at-large,

USA, the fattest nation. 22/06/2008 09:41:35
There have been tragedies of crop destruction--rice crop destroyed by weather violence, Myanmar, and Midwest USA corn and wheat crop damaged by river flooding. The media comments about how this is leading to a crisis of food availability have me concerned.

I am glad more and more people are tending vegetable gardens. The do-it-yourself independent type has my respect.

I wonder if this campaign to be temperate in eating is an advance tactic to shape how people deal with food shortages. Food prices are up. If you can eat less you can spare your budget and your waistline.

However, I think the supermodels get to use cocaine to keep themselves svelte and yet I do not think drug use is endorsed for the rest of us. (More typos and more train accidents, etc.) If we are all on diets we perhaps will not notice so much that there is less available to eat.

Coming soon: The rise of the survivalist who has a knack for cooking rat so it tastes like chicken...(Joke.)
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SILVANA,

glasgow 22/06/2008 09:55:59
Scott Webb will you shut up! There are folk that have an opinion but at the rate your blogging we cannot get a word in edge ways<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Yane,

22/06/2008 10:00:04
Haven't seen you for ages Friend-at-large! Svelte is a lovely word.
They're always on about Australians turning into porkers an a.
#79 Mcsnagpile —lard as well? No one cooks with that any more. There's nothin like a greasy fry up — now & then.
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SILVANA,

glasgow 22/06/2008 10:05:33
Today, I note that one article is on smoking, the next article is on overweight Scots. A few days ago there was an article in this paper stating that Scots kids are the healthest eaters on this Island????
Just a wee word to Mr Salmond........You are a shining example of obesity.

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Boy Wonder,

22/06/2008 10:11:23
Chuckles and Scott Webb have a new friend ... Conan the Librarian. And their views all mesh together. Will we see these old-agers come together to form the SPF (Scottish Pensioners First) party. Unfortunately foy these old codgers ... wisdom cometh not with age! :D
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Alex, Young Laird d' Drumchapel,

Madrid 22/06/2008 10:12:20
A lot of these plans are total baloney.

A good idea is what they do in Spain here; Every company who has over 100 employees has to have a canteen. When I visit large companies like these I have lunch and you get starters (soup, or greens) main course fish or meat, sauses, then help yourself to veges and chips and then for sweet is yoghurts or fruit and a beer or fruit juice. All in it costs the worker less than 5 quid.

I mean you can really stuff yourself if you want but the Spanish do not have a weight problem like us. In industrial estates there's no wee van selling greasy cr&p with irn bru or cola.

What are we going to do? Weigh people and then tell them off. Absolutely stupid. Almost everything the SNP do is good but having a bus go round to tell people what to eat is just foolish.
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Liberal for life,

Dunblane 22/06/2008 10:14:28
By the time people start earing a living its far too late to get many to change their dietary habits. Its the schools we need to devote attention to as that is the future. Thats why Nicol Stephen tried to raise the very issues last year during the election campaign and the media didn't want to know and a big minority of Scots chose to listen to wee fat Eck Salmon instead. Shame on all you ADULT voters who made the wrong choice.
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 22/06/2008 10:47:23
Scott Webb

Why ARE you hogging so much space in this thread?

You repeat over and over again. Do you like to see your name in print? Get over it! You ain't that special.

I, too, have noticed that more and more health professionals here in Canada are overweight and yet they preach to us about reducing and exercising and eating a balanced diet.

HYPOCRITES!

Charity begins at home and many of them could afford to lose a stone or three.
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Forward not Back,

22/06/2008 11:02:59
So, to conclude, Scott Webb says we're all doomed as the puppet masters are in complete control.

So who cares what you eat?
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Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 11:27:49
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Cheeky young scoundrel, if I was younger I'd horsewhip you to an inch of your life;-)
Now get back to your comics, or pruning your carrot-trees.
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fishermans blues,

22/06/2008 11:32:00
courting criticism here, but working in the public sector myself I have seen over the past few years a whole new industry created, this been Health Promotion. There is an increasing body of people, often themselves either a poor example of healthy living or the other extreme, the healthy neurotics. Once in a job, it is very difficult to get rid of them, so I feel there is a degree of work creation here, one week booze, next week food. I propose recycling them and finding more useful tasks for them, or giving them redundancy packages. Yes expensive, but I believe it would be worth it. If anything, for my mental health.

Last time I was in hospital, I did notice that the majority of staff I came across, were very decent, competent and overweight individuals.

I am not a bitter, overweight person, as some more suspect. Very fit person, who does not go preaching to others how they should live their lives as long as it does not affect others, particularly myself and those close to me.
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 Ayrshire Scot™,

22/06/2008 11:34:25
95. Liberal - makes you wonder why the Libs/Lab executive did nothing on this during 8 years in office? you would think rather than raising this last April during an election Nicol might have done something other than issue a press release in the previous 8 years?
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 Ayrshire Scot™,

22/06/2008 12:04:07
117. ASDA? Good grief man, is there not a Sainsbury near you?

Now, I hope you are going to to some buttock slimming/ firming exercises after all them doughnuts
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 22/06/2008 12:30:39
Glad to see that Ms Robison managed to get in a reference to Climate Change in a story about obesity.
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MisterN,

Scotland 22/06/2008 12:37:37
Is this no starting to look and sound like that movie Gattaca?
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 22/06/2008 12:54:32
#95 Liberal for life.

There's only one problem with your argument.

Nicol Stephen is a d*ckhead and people generally tend to ignore him. He is a rather weasly chap, lacking in any moral fibre and a political coward.

Cheers!
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 22/06/2008 13:00:35
#66 AM2

Calm down. Here is one SNP cyberactivist who does indeed think that this is control freakery gone mad and agrees with you about the police state connotations.

For the record, I am also dead against the introduction of Home Information Packs, as I regard this as state interference in the buying and selling of a private asset.

Feel better now?
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 22/06/2008 13:06:43
Incidently, AM2, I found the following quote the most sinister of all:

"Margaret Curran, the Scottish Labour health spokeswoman, said: "Today's announcement seems half-hearted."

It appears that Scottish Labour would love to be in a position to out-police-state the SNP !
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No 42 days,

22/06/2008 13:07:17
Police state.
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No 42 days,

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indune1,

Canada 22/06/2008 13:40:42
Hey Meths, Conan, Ayrshire Laddie and Spook - all on one thread.

I have a theory - and it is mine, and mine alone - that the governmnet will soon offer economic incentives to fat people. Put simply, fat people will undergo lypo-suction and sell their fat to the government after which it will be used as a bio-fuel.

It's a win-win!! Thin people who are driving eco-friendly cars to their homes that are heated and lit by their own fat!!! Go figure; pardon the pun!
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 Ayrshire Scot™,

22/06/2008 13:42:11
130. Hi Dunnie... and a good idea lol
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indune1,

Canada 22/06/2008 13:44:20
132 - Ayrshire. Long time no talk to. How are ya laddie?
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indune1,

22/06/2008 13:46:31
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 Ayrshire Scot™,

22/06/2008 13:59:32
133. very well thanks Dunnie. how are things with you?
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Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 14:29:34
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How much would it take to get AM2 to vote SNP?

Highland Mighty to stop sneering?

Spook to play rugby?
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indune1,

Canada 22/06/2008 14:31:42

138 -Independence

137 - Meths! Yes, one of my better ones.

136 - Posters to stop posting!!!
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indune1,

Canada 22/06/2008 14:32:41

133 - Just fine but the weather today is bl00dy lousy.
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The Embalmer,

Albany 22/06/2008 14:47:11
A fat person coming to me is a nightmare. The amount of fluid it takes to sort his/her body out before family viewings is driving me under. The bladder contents would fill a Skipp and the smell is putrefying. Even after death fat people are a burden and are a menace.
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The Embalmer,

22/06/2008 14:51:57
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rwOC1AX40k&feature=related
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elizabeth the first ,

22/06/2008 14:53:37
141. What an insensitive person you are,think you could be in the wrong occupation.
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ImReallyAnElf,

turriff 22/06/2008 14:58:10
143 - I think 141 was either a spoof, or a thoroughly unpleasant person in totally the wrong job...

As to the idea of businesses "being encouraged to monitor the weight of their employees" - if they'd wanted to ensure more people than ever made every attempt to stay/become unemployed, then by setting up such a humiliating and insulting scheme they hit the bloomin' jackpot.

What unmitigated insolence!!!
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The Embalmer,

22/06/2008 14:58:22
143

I hope your not fat because when you die you can bloody Embalm yourself with the garden hose.
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Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 14:59:03
143
I agree.Wendy Alexander will need a new spindoctor soon...
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elizabeth the first ,

22/06/2008 15:02:50
143. And you sir are a disgrace to your profession!
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The Embalmer,

22/06/2008 15:08:22
143

I am a credit to my profession and have all the skills achievement awards to prove this. The feedback i receive from most families is very positive. I say most families because one family's fat sibling was a kin to being very fat so i decided to dress her up like Miss piggy to detour other relatives from dumping fat love ones on my door step.
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elizabeth the first ,

22/06/2008 15:15:36
148. You should be reported,you are not capable of doing your job,infact you are a disgrace!
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The Embalmer,

22/06/2008 15:23:26
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I am a pillar of the community and so long as your not fat then i will Embalmer you when you pass away.
I do 2 for the price of one so if you decide to die try and time it along with someone else.
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Truthman,

Washington, DC 22/06/2008 15:26:40
I would seem that the Scots HAVE been working on their weight and most have an extra stone or two or three to show for it. Folks from the eastern side of my town are rarely seen NOT working on their weight with at least one hand even at the few venues where eating is not permitted, but then misbehaving is their other calling.
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elizabeth the first ,

22/06/2008 15:29:46
150. You are a joke,that's all.
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The Embalmer,

22/06/2008 15:33:31
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Liz i am no joke.
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The Embalmer,

22/06/2008 15:37:44
#152

If you are a fatty then i will Embalmer the contents from you but only if your family has a large bank account. Its not cheap doing fattys..
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elizabeth the first ,

22/06/2008 17:08:33
153.Please don't call me Liz, only my friends call me that,and you are anything but!
136

elizabeth the first ,

22/06/2008 17:23:56
158.How about Elizabeth!
137

 Ayrshire Scot™,

22/06/2008 17:27:23
156. Scott - "excito-toxins"? I have found the cure - Elizabeth the first...
138

elizabeth the first ,

22/06/2008 17:28:11
158. You are a very forward individual,good manners seem to take second place to familiarity.
139

 Ayrshire Scot™,

22/06/2008 17:31:54
163. No, in the sense that epoxy resins exist...
140

elizabeth the first ,

22/06/2008 17:32:21
161. I was christened Elizabeth 52 years ago so, if you don't mind i'll stick to that.
141

 Ayrshire Scot™,

22/06/2008 17:33:45
164. and sad
142

elizabeth the first ,

22/06/2008 17:35:01
164. And you are a obnoxious individual.
143

elizabeth the first ,

22/06/2008 17:35:58
167. Better sad than bad.
144

indune1,

22/06/2008 17:39:12
Meths - Another fine mess (or is that meths) you've got yourself into!

What I've read Elizabeth was not only sad but bad ( as in naughty) as well.

Spain or Italy?
145

elizabeth the first ,

22/06/2008 17:42:50
Good evening all,hope you all have a splendid evening.
146

 Ayrshire Scot™,

22/06/2008 17:50:02
169. not for the boredome levels of those on whom you inflict your dross posts
147

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 22/06/2008 18:06:39
So to summarise the posts on this thread.

1. No attempt whatsover should be made to halt the rise in obesity in this country. It doesn't matter how fat and unhealthy we get, someone (the tax payer) will pay for it.

I therefore assume that most of the posters are not tax-payers.

2. It's all part of a massive conspiracy theory.

I therefore assume that most of the posters don't get out in the real world enough.

What chance would an independent Scotland have with such narrow-minded and ill-informed citizens?

148

elizabeth the first ,

22/06/2008 18:31:17
174. Please look at your spelling of"boredom", you are not only rude, but illiterate.
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indune1,

Canada 22/06/2008 18:39:49
176- Lizzie - Weren't you departing from these threads?

As to your pedantry (which compliments your pomposity), look at your own 171 posting which could do with proper punctuation and economy of language.

Sleep tight Liz.
150

nick prince,

warrington 22/06/2008 19:22:01
Will everyone just stop being horrible to Elizabeth, she was right about everything, especially about that enbalmer, no doubt he thinks it's gallows humour.
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nick prince,

warrington 22/06/2008 19:26:33
These people who want to halt obesity, smoking and binge drinking are just sadistic bureaucrats who want the poor to live longer so that they can punish them with the template of an oppressive overculture of body fascism and wealth. Death to the oppressors over our dead bodies.
152

indune1,

Canada 22/06/2008 19:35:07
179 - Nick. Lighten up. Anybody who took the idiot "embalmer" seriously needs a wake-up call.

As to being horrible to dear Lizzie: horrible? You must be joking?

I believe Liz can dish it out but Elizabeth cannot take it - criticism or the odd jibe, that is!!
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nick prince,

warrington 22/06/2008 19:59:57
Lighten up, I was already light, I was being jocose, I did take the enbalmer seriously, he probably really is a mortician of very bad taste. This information superhighway is just like the rest of them, people wind down windows and disgorge discourtesy. Don't tell me I need a wake up call, I am a complete stranger to you and on another continent.
154

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Jambo Number 1,

22/06/2008 21:25:08
They should start with Jackie Baillie, the wobbling tub of lard that she is.
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indune1,

Canada 22/06/2008 22:33:35

You are a complete stranger but - according to most Brits - you are not from another continent as you are not part of Europe. These words from an ex-pat.: )

You are missing the essential point. The embalmer is either a wind-up artist (troll) or a sick individual, or maybe both. The point is to ignore the idiot. Don't take him seriously.
158

indune1,

Canada 22/06/2008 22:34:52

Nick - BTW, my uncle trained at RN Warrington.
159

Yankee girl,

USA 22/06/2008 23:05:18
I thought we in the US were the fatties!!
160

Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 23:08:26
188
It's all relative Yankee girl;-)

How are you doing?
161

2dogs in D.C.,

22/06/2008 23:08:56
Hi Scott Webb,and you, Conan, Long time,no see, Scott, keep trying Brother, some of us do hear. Stay well.
162

Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 23:15:52
190
Hi 2dogs, How are you, and the dugs?
163

Yankee girl,

USA 22/06/2008 23:17:20
189 Hey, Conan! Doin' ok - how about yourself?
164

Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 23:21:37
192
Well, thanks.

Yg and 2dogs; If its not too personal, how are you going to vote?
165

Yankee girl,

USA 22/06/2008 23:29:21
193, Conan - as long as no one on the threads holds it against me! I'm not much for McCain, so I'm probably heading for Barack's camp.
166

2dogs in D.C.,

22/06/2008 23:32:52
Hey, Conan. Wife goes to surgery in 2 days for a new knee hinge, One of my best friends died 3 days ago, and my mortgage payment is due. Aside from that, everythings just ducky. The Boys are still sniffing butt, and have well developed bark mechinisms. And, in answer to your question, I will hold my nose and vote.....O.K., for what it's worth, in the words of someone wiser, I don't belong to an organised party, I'm a Democrat.
167

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 22/06/2008 23:34:36

Conan ~193,

If its 2dogs in D.C, they have gone outside for a 'Fag' just caught him on the other thread.
168

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 22/06/2008 23:36:08

Thats Technoligy for ya! crossed lines, and fast 'Smoke'
169

2dogs in D.C.,

22/06/2008 23:41:42
Yep.
170

Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 23:41:50
Yankee girl, 2dogs and Charles.

The first black president of the USA...

Will it really happen?
171

Yankee girl,

USA 22/06/2008 23:41:55
Conan and Charles, both of you are up late again. No work tomorrow?
172

Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 23:45:54
Yankee girl, Charles draws his pension, I'm on a late shift;-)
173

Yankee girl,

USA 22/06/2008 23:46:08
199 - Conan, I've asked myself the same question, considering our tumultuous history with racial issues. I applaud Mr. Obama for having the courage to step forward. He has a lot of good qualities, my only reservation is he isn't quite as experienced as I would like.
174

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 22/06/2008 23:52:29

Yankee girl ~200,

Yes gotta be up tomorrow, I am a late-hawk, but not as late as Scott Web, how he does it, I don't know!

Connan ~199,

Behave yourself, It will Never Happen!

Mark my Words! and look at History!

A tragic accident,? or the 'Hit-man',?

Something that's for sure!
175

2dogs in D.C.,

22/06/2008 23:54:01
Why not? It's really not the person, it's the stand. (well, in my opinion.)
176

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 22/06/2008 23:56:44

Martin Luther King.
177

Yankee girl,

USA 22/06/2008 23:57:06
204, 2dogs has the right of it.
178

Conan the Librarian™,

22/06/2008 23:57:10
202
There was an advertisement which made these shores;-)
179

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/06/2008 00:00:10

John F. Kennedy.

What was he standing for,?
180

Conan the Librarian™,

23/06/2008 00:01:03
So if McCain gets the crown, will he get chippy with Vietnam?
181

Conan the Librarian™,

23/06/2008 00:01:54
208
Marilyn Monroe?
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/06/2008 00:03:29

John F. Kennedy.

What was he standing for,?

Freedoms for the ????? Communities!
183

2dogs in D.C.,

23/06/2008 00:05:40
Charles, I worry about the redneck gunner. Why does "race" have to figure into any of this? As far as experiance is concerned, how many first time presidents have had on the job training? Conan-:)
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/06/2008 00:06:25

Conan ~210,

Marilyn Monroe?

She must of been a real Sexy Woman of her Time!

Her Pictures still look good! for modern times.
185

Yankee girl,

USA 23/06/2008 00:07:42
208, we know the "politics" you're interested in, Conan!! ;)
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/06/2008 00:10:42

2dogs ~212,

We will wait with anticipation, but I am not naive of the facts.

You must ask yourself the whys. dont ask me, I had nothing to do with the death of,..

Martin Luther King.
187

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/06/2008 00:11:47

Yankee girl ~214,

:DD
188

2dogs in D.C.,

23/06/2008 00:13:43
And so, suddenly, we moved into Mondays Scotsman.
189

Conan the Librarian™,

23/06/2008 00:15:32
213
Beauty is timeless Charles.

Within limits of course. 500,000 years would probably see the beauties of that age be the Ugly Betties of another.( Horrible phrase )
190

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/06/2008 00:15:36

2dogs in D.C ~217,
So catch you there!

I Blame Conan, he brought up the subject! :)
191

Yankee girl,

USA 23/06/2008 00:16:39
207 Conan, are you saying you've seen a US campaign ad in Scotland? That's amazing! Did it sway you toward that candidate, or did you think it was a bunch of hooey?
192

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/06/2008 00:17:27


Gosh Conan!

"Beauty is timeless Charles."

Soo that is why our, Boy Wonder is jealous of me! :)
193

Conan the Librarian™,

23/06/2008 00:20:12
216
Marilyn was also famous for a double D.

;-)
194

Yankee girl,

USA 23/06/2008 00:21:19
218, that's beautiful, Conan (snif, snif). ;)
195

Conan the Librarian™,

23/06/2008 00:22:06
220
Hooey is not the discriptive which comes to mind...
196

Yankee girl,

USA 23/06/2008 00:23:43
222, LOL. Good point, Conan. Charles has revealed he's in the same "political" camp as yourself.
197

Yankee girl,

USA 23/06/2008 00:30:08
224, that's why I pay no attention to campaigns. They're all hogwash and spin.
198

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/06/2008 00:32:33

Yankee girl ~225,

The only "Political Camp" I am interested in, is as you know,..

'The appreciation of Women Camp'

I Don't do Football or Politics, its far too boring, when the,..

'Fruits Of Life' keep you young and healthy! :DD
199

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/06/2008 00:36:36

Helps with that "Weight Issue" as-well 'HUH',? :)
200

Yankee girl,

23/06/2008 00:38:23
227, You go, Charles!! And the Women's Camp appreciates it. Woo hoo!! ;)
201

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/06/2008 00:45:52

Looks Like Conan, has done a 'runner'! Yankee girl!

Unlike Him, the 'True Woman' Lover is still on-line!
:)

Well with you arround, what else can I do,? :) :-*
202

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/06/2008 00:49:52

Put it this way Yankee girl,..

It beats the 'Pants off' all them sad,...

'Train Spotters' on here! :)
203

McHoot,

brisbane 23/06/2008 00:50:21
130
Hey, Dunny, you're back! And what a good idea, mate!
Apparently we Aussies are even fatter than the Yanks so it seems to be a world-wide problem.
Gut to do something about it, eh? Get it? Chortle! Sorry.
If you add the moose methane to that extracted human fat you could make a bio-fuel(named Fartfat?) that will send the Saudis broke and scuttling back to their desert tents. - or, worse case scenario, it might blow up the world. Hm.
Maple Syrup for ever!
204

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 23/06/2008 01:00:00
2 dogs in d.c.

Sorry to hear about your medical matters and mortgage things and other stuff.

All things will pass.

You still have the love of your wife and your 2 beautiful dogs to comfort you in these trying times of yours.

Chester is well and just walked him through a terrific and LOUD thudershower. We both survived, obviously.

It is now about 8 p.m. EST here.

Have a peaceful and stress-free evening.
205

Yankee girl,

USA 23/06/2008 01:03:45
230, 231 LOL, Charles!!

232 McHoot, alas, Dunnie left some time ago. I tried to catch up to him as well, but missed him.

The extracted human fat and moose methane combo sounds so volatile it could be a new WMD. Perhaps a patent is in order.
206

Conan the Librarian™,

23/06/2008 01:07:22
230
Charles

The dugs needed out.I think there was a fox as they were going "spare".

And does your DYW ken aboot beating the pants off Yankee girl?
207

indune1,

Canada 23/06/2008 01:10:59

I'm still here.
208

Conan the Librarian™,

23/06/2008 01:12:36
236
Good Evening Dunnie.

How are your dugs?
209

indune1,

Canada 23/06/2008 01:13:27
235 - Conan and Charles - b0gger off. Yankee girl is my girl.
210

Yankee girl,

USA 23/06/2008 01:14:23
235 What? Whoa, Charles you're good. I didn't feel a thing.... ;)

211

Yankee girl,

USA 23/06/2008 01:15:22
Yo, Dunnie!!! So good to see ya!!
212

indune1,

Canada 23/06/2008 01:15:38

The wee dugs are fine. Though Maggie, the oldest, is slowing up. I feel she doesn't have much longer. A damn pity after 12 yrs. She has been a great and faithful companion.

Got to BBQ. Back in an hr.
213

Yankee girl,

USA 23/06/2008 01:17:54
241, Sheesh. Slam, bam, thank you ma'am!
214

Conan the Librarian™,

23/06/2008 01:18:40
238
Conversation killer.
215

Yankee girl,

23/06/2008 01:21:41
243
Psst, he's gone now. Where were we? ;)
216

Conan the Librarian™,

23/06/2008 01:21:55
242
There is method in his madness Yankee girl.

I am off to bed, and I am sure Charles will be medicated soon...
217

Yankee girl,

USA 23/06/2008 01:22:48
245 Conan, sleep tight. You, too, Charles.

Catch you both later!!
218

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/06/2008 01:23:08

Conan ~235,

'Fair Doo's' on your Dugs!

You made me laugh with your remark about my DYW,:)) and,..

Yankee girls "Pants"

Anyway who is to say its not a 'Thong'! :)

Joking apart and NO offence Yankee girl, I enjoy the light hearted approach at times, that people have on these threads.

But yes I do also enjoy the 'Fairer Sex' to come on-line and have a banter!,
(Scottish Word Yankee girl, to chat)

I am sure 'Yankee girl' Knows I Love my DYW and we are in the process of 'Baby Making'

That is the attraction Conan! :)
219

indune1,

Canada 23/06/2008 01:27:29


241 - Yankee lass - Slam bam? Certainly not. Slow and with pleasure.

A nice chilled Chardonnay or a really naughty Cabernet.

You disowned me.
220

Yankee girl,

23/06/2008 01:30:36
247 Charles, regarding the thong - maybe yes, maybe no...! ;) ;)

248 Dunnie, you are such a tease!
221

indune1,

Canada 23/06/2008 01:36:25

Tease? No. Not my style. Full Monty. Take it or leave it.

How are things in Calif?
222

Yankee girl,

23/06/2008 01:41:39
250 92F / 34C, just the beginning of a long, very hot summer. Other than that, things are ok.
223

indune1,

23/06/2008 01:43:23
Good to hear. You are a flirt!
224

Yankee girl,

23/06/2008 01:46:37
252
ME a flirt? I'm still fanning myself over your post at 248. :-D
225

indune1,

23/06/2008 01:59:41
A fan? That won't do it girl. A bag of ice would help.
226

Yankee girl,

23/06/2008 02:01:35
Yessiree, a bag of ice would "help."
227

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/06/2008 02:26:27
#249,

Nite Nite, Yankee girl, thanks for the chat, dont care the 'underware'

Its the 'Person' that makes it all worth while!

Sweet Dreams, xx
228

indune1,

Canada 23/06/2008 02:30:37

255 - Yankee Girl. Was in San Fran last week. First time in over 20 yrs.
229

Yankee girl,

23/06/2008 02:36:41
256 Nite, Charles!

257 Dunnie, San Fran is great, isn't it? As long as you don't have to drive or park, that is!

Must run now. Ta ta and have a good BBQ!!
230

indune1,

23/06/2008 02:48:17
258- Yeah,see ya.
231

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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 23/06/2008 08:24:53
This thread belongs elsewhere
233

McHoot,

23/06/2008 10:39:48
234
Yes! I'm off to the patent office now! A new mate! Hurrah!
Still want to hear from Dunny. though.
234

indune1,

Canada 23/06/2008 10:53:22
Hey McHoot! How are you doing you old moose f*rt?
235

Robert Mason,

Larkhall 23/06/2008 15:39:43
61

WUM, I understand that no weighbridge will accept Salmond.
236

tyson,

Living off the fat of the land 23/06/2008 21:36:56
Soon you won't be able to afford petrol, food, beer or public transport. You'll have to walk to the dole office to pick up your daily ration of oatmeal and council water. Problem solved!
237

Pauljensen,

london 23/06/2008 23:22:49
There is a lot of sense and good debate coming out of Scotland with regards to health issues: regarding tobacco alcohol and obesity issues. I find it strange costing it for the sake of NHS savings etc. Surely it is the health and well being of the nation that is most important. Add life skills to the school curriculum and build some more swimming pools and public gym facilities, make it affordable, encourage good health, greatly reduce tobacco and alcohol outlets, get people back to work on conservation/nature projects if need be.
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McHoot,

brisbane 24/06/2008 01:23:44
263 How VERY dare you, Dunny!!! I'm great but my hairy-nosed wombat is nearly extinct. What to do?
If you make fat people pay double for everything they'll soon get thin.
How about that Mexican chappie who weighed 550 kgs but reduced to 250 so he could get married! He stll looked like Jabba the Hutt and three Sumi wrestlers rolled into one.!
Hope your we dugs are okay. Does that mean you have sick man-boobs?
Perhaps we should give obesity a miss and study hairy people. There was a bloke who tried to conquer Spain a few hundred years ago called William the Hairy. Are their any grossly hirsute people in Scotland, Canada, US and Australia? and if so how do we control them? Perhaps they should use herbal shampoos? Eat weeds? Shave? What?

 

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