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Published Date: 11 January 2009
ALISTAIR Darling is set to back a £100bn gamble with taxpayers' cash in a desperate bid to kick-start the struggling mortgage market.
The Chancellor's plan involves effectively underwriting the majority of new mortgages in the UK to encourage big investors to give badly needed money to lending banks.

The proposed scheme means the UK Government would guarantee mortgage bonds, where banks parcel up individual home loans and sell them to investment firms. When the system works properly, banks have a source of money to loan to customers and investors get a return.

But with many investors currently reluctant to risk their money on mortgages, Darling is preparing to guarantee the value of mortgage bonds to get the cash flowing again.

The total value of new mortgages involved has been estimated as up to £100bn, leading to claims last night that the scheme poses too many risks to taxpayers while offering too few rewards. And the new measures, coming on top of a £500bn scheme to guarantee banks' borrowing and the £12bn cut in VAT announced in October, will raise further fears over the extent of the Government's spending in the face of the credit crunch.

The latest moves follow growing evidence that housebuyers are experiencing chronic difficulties getting mortgages. Figures from the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) show new buyer inquiries are at their highest level since October 2006, but new mortgage approvals by banks are at a record low. From a high of 130,000 a month in mid-2006, approvals have fallen to fewer than 30,000 a month.

Last night officials confirmed the mortgage bond guarantee plan was now "on the table". A source close to the discussions said: "Two years ago, banks had a huge pool of finance which has now dried up.

"The more high-risk mortgages will probably not be included, but the idea is to package up the new mortgages. The Government would then offer some sort of guarantee should the market continue to go down."

Prime Minister Gordon Brown dropped a major hint last week he would support the move, saying he wanted to "secure the funding necessary for home ownership". Darling is already warning a potential recovery in the housing market may be stymied because home-buyers can't get funds.

Brown and Darling are close to agreeing a fresh package of measures to boost lending, to be unveiled within weeks. Ministers are also considering plans to guarantee individual loans to businesses. A national 'bad bank' – to hold the toxic assets currently on banks' balance sheets – is also under discussion.

But opposition parties warned that the scheme was risky. Liberal Democrat Dem shadow chancellor Vince Cable said: "I am very sceptical about it. There is a danger of repeating the same mistakes in the mortgage market that caused so much damage last time."

"There is a role for guarantees in the system, but by giving guarantees to any form of commercial lending you risk the taxpayer taking on all the risk and not getting any of the benefits. We know that the Governor of the Bank of England is very unhappy with this plan in the light of the experience of Northern Rock and I share some of his concerns."

A RICS spokesman said last night: "With many first-time buyers unable to find the finance to take an initial step on to the housing ladder and existing owner-occupiers needing to move similarly blighted, the time has come for the Government to take direct action to restore an orderly property market.

"Government guarantees should inject some much-needed confidence into the securities market. In the absence of such action, the danger is that potential homebuyers will continue to be frozen out of the market, pushing transaction activity and prices to new lows."

Michael Luck, managing director of Slater, Hogg & Howison, said: "It is a good idea. Anything the Government does to put guarantees in place is good, but the days of 100% plus mortgages are now gone and that means there will be people who just don't qualify for a loan."


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  • Last Updated: 10 January 2009 8:49 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
 
1

Rufus-T-Firefly,

10/01/2009 22:41:40
First for once.
2

Rufus-T-Firefly,

10/01/2009 22:45:25
Sounds like another master stroke from Alistair Darling.

Gordon Brown was an all time great Chancellor, and it looks like Alistair Darling is going to be up there with him alongside the all time greats.
3

UK007,

11/01/2009 00:01:37
#1-#2 RFT

Most fools think they are only ignorant.

Benjamin Franklin
4

badger464,

11/01/2009 00:08:37
wouldn't it be cheaper to cut out the middle man or, as recent times have shown, the weakest link
5

Jimmy Le Pie,

11/01/2009 00:11:20
Imagine saddling future governments with this amount of debt???

And the Unionist apoligists complain about Alex Salmond and his excellent government trying to build a bridge in an economically prudent way.

Clowns
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Observer,,

Glasgow 11/01/2009 00:13:15
He's a complete idiot if he thinks he can sort things out by under-writing mortgages for ridiculous house prices. You might as well under-write tulip mania it's all the same. House prices are too high and have to fall. Yes, tough, but we need to deal with it.
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Dark Lochnagar,

Symington 11/01/2009 00:22:56
I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my life.
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Lurking from home,

11/01/2009 00:44:26
The best wide game would be for the SCAUP to ditch the budget and force the Joker Government to resign.

Margo for First Minister!
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/01/2009 00:51:05




I never knew, that it was Soo easy to print money!

A few 'Bob' in my direction please, will not go amiss!

FORGET THE,,.."GREEDY BANKS",... "Alastair Darling"!

GIVE IT TO THE,...."NEEDY"!!!


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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/01/2009 00:59:02


BTW,..."Alastair Darling" STOP!, looking Soo confused, in you pictures, on here.

We need a little action, and not what you are thinking to have for, 'Dinner tonight'!






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The Strategist,

11/01/2009 01:25:46
Very silly. The last thing we need is to kick off house price inflation again but this is exactly what will happen if Darling goes ahead with this idea.
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Vivas,

Edinburgh 11/01/2009 01:33:34
FARCE. Despite having the power of life and death over the major banks in the autumn, the government did nothing at the time to ensure that banks would start mortgage lending to Joe Public again. Instead the banks filled their vaults with taxpayers money and will doubtless return for second helpings sometime this year. In the meantime, it looks like the taxpayer, having baled out the banks, is now to act as guarantor for those suffering from mortgage "misery" (whatever the hell that is)

Just for the record. I didn't want my tax to be poured into bank vaults to boost bank reserves. And I certainly don't want to support mortgage lending in the face of a deepening recession. Although I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the war criminal Blair has been followed by the 2 greatest socio-economic fraudsters of the modern age in the shape of Brown and Darling.
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Dekester,

Canada's westcoast 11/01/2009 01:48:16
What is one to do? We appear to be in un chartered waters here.

The U.S. and U.K. appear to be on a course for destruction. Surely the currencies of the two are likely to further fall in value.

We are considering buying a home, "back home" as the currency exchange, and the drop in home values has made this quite affordable.

However this insanity about continually dabbling in the banking system is un nerving.

What will happen if that money too, is siphoned off.

What is wrong with a period of deflation. Most posters here will know of individuals that have had properties triple in value over the last 7 or so years. So what they drop 30% or more.

All the best.
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Edward,

11/01/2009 01:59:24
#16 Dekester
Think you have got that slightly wrong as far as the currencies. If both currencies were falling then the exchange rate between the pound ad the US dollar would be the same now as it was a year ago.
The fact is the pound has fallen dramatically aainst the Euro and the US dollar , as well as many other currencies, including the Egyptian Pound and the Thai Bhatt!
The UK Currency is a bit of a baset case and reflects how world markets just dont hav confidence in the British economy under Brown and Darling
For you, if your a cash buyer, it would be the best time to buy with the twin benifits of preferable exchange rate and lower house prices
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snoozyowl,

Wales 11/01/2009 02:01:16
All this will do is postpone the absolutely necessary price adjustment in the housing market until later, while potentially costing taxpayers a fortune. I'm against guaranteeing anything in the housing market, it's riven with fraud, hype and overvaluations. Darling is well past desperate, he's bonkers.
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Forward not Back,

11/01/2009 02:21:03
Another £100bn. Where's it coming from? Foreigners buying UK debt? Er, no. Given that Germany had to cancel a debt issuance what makes HMG think that foreigners will buy more.

I know! Print more of the stuff! Brilliant! Hyper-inflation here we come.

Get out now.
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/01/2009 02:29:43


Forget the commenting!


Let us All, Just see how we can get our hands on this extra 'loot',.."Alastair Darling" is contemplating in the Picture!

Do a 'Grab' while you can!


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fair scunnered,

edinburgh 11/01/2009 02:35:31
i still think jilted john sang the words,that everyone is thinking to this bit of jolly wheeze
"gordon is a moron,gordon is a morone"
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Dekester,

Canada's Westcoast 11/01/2009 02:52:12
Thanks Edwards #17.

You are correct.

What I meant was that the U.K pound and U.S $ would likely be on a downward spiral.
As both socialist governments continue printing money. So far the U.S $ is holding up as "the world currency" though.

Not much more than a year ago the U.S. dollar was worth $1.10(Can) today it is nearer 83 cents (Can)Go figure.

I guess that is because oil is so much cheaper, etc.

The home will be a cash purchase..On the East coast. Anywhere from Aberdeen down to Edinburgh.

Where are the "best buys"?

All the best.
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Jonathan,

UAE 11/01/2009 02:56:35
Well, as the reporter says, it's a gamble.

What else can this Communist Government gamble on to ensure this country never recovers?
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Alan B,

11/01/2009 03:44:21
Brown has been completely incompetent and ruined the uk economy. I cannot understand why he has not been forced to resign. Whatever happened to ministerial responsibility. It is all about the evil persuit of power for the Blairs and Browns of this world.
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Anonym,

11/01/2009 04:03:01
Darling is thinking:

"Crivens! Ah've got tae git the economy sortet oot so ah can sell ma hoose for more than ah paid furrit!"

Oh, Scott.Webb, I can't wait for your comment. I guess your link must be to a tune about "Mortgage Misery", since there nothing else you mentioned is relevant.
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W Smith,

Middle East 11/01/2009 04:06:47
This is the newspaper that, just weeks ago, sneered at David Cameron for believing the nation should "live within its means"

This newspaper went as far as calling it Thatchers "ideology".

I've been living within my financial needs for years now, like many Scots, and didn't realise that made me a right wing Thatcherite!

Thanks to the socialists who work for this newsaper for enlightening me on that one.

BTW
So the chairman and directors of Johnston Press will attract investment and boost their share price by boasting that they do not run the company "within its means" and don't care about trivial things like profits then eh?

AYE RIGHT!
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W Smith,

Middle East 11/01/2009 04:16:39
BTW

During this recession the Celtic chairman, Mr John Reid, ex-marxist and kiddy on socialist, will be okay for cash.

He's just landed a job as security advisor with a private company operating in Iraq worth 50,000 quid a year.

This is the same John Reid who used to get blootered with anti-war George Galloway and sing sectarion songs.

Whats the chances of Celtic supporter Galloway slagging-off the Celtic chairman over this then?

Does this make Reid a 'warmonger' then George?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1111702/John-shot-fired-Reids-50-000-Iraq-security-job.html
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Havelock Vetinari,

Leith 11/01/2009 04:19:56
23. Dekester

If you're looking at the East Coast; try the East Neuk of Fife, beautiful part of the country, reasonable property prices and pretty good road links as they upgraded a few years back.
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Anonym,

11/01/2009 04:33:08
Oh that's right, we're all a bunch of 'sheeple' for not realising that all the rich people are Satanists!

Please explain more.
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e-sterka,

11/01/2009 05:00:06
It doesn`t look too promising for Banks... So strange headlines!

But - why?

I didn´t mean it...
... and I don´t share your opinion.

In my opinion he is the right man for the job. We count on Churchill!

Main strategy: the answer is YES,...
One more: I said YES, it means YES. What is your question?
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e-sterka,

11/01/2009 05:04:42
It doesn`t look too promising for Banks... So strange headlines!

But - why?

I didn´t mean it...
... and I don´t share your opinion.

In my opinion he is the right man for the job. We count on Churchill!

Main strategy: the answer is YES,...
One more: I said YES, it means YES. What is your question?
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11/01/2009 05:30:28
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ddmc,

11/01/2009 06:09:18
won't matter if he underwrites £200 billion, the banks are reluctant to loan any money to anyone, a recession/depression is here for a while, who knows if we'll have a job by the end of this year. I suppose they will probably lend to gov't/cooncil employees as they seem to be the only ones who have a guarenteed job, but people in the private sector are on far shakier ground.

A state sponsered job is for life not just christmas !
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Rabhairt,

Cannons Creek Downunder 11/01/2009 06:53:39
#40 funny you should ask that, it would seem that the "Serfs" will be paying for the castles repairs as usual; I saw on the news here that the US Govt is looking at two banks that they had "pumped" in 700 million bucks to, no one seems to know where it has gone !!!!!!!
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Macuistean,

Isle of Tiree 11/01/2009 07:50:30
Is he bringing in John McVicar to help him organise the way the money will be spent?
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Phil Lawrence,

Tallinn 11/01/2009 08:53:14
Once upon a time a man appeared in a village and
announced to the villagers that he would buy monkeys
for £10 each.

The villagers, seeing that there were many monkeys
around, went out to the forest and started catching them.

The man bought thousands at £10 and, as supply
started to diminish, the villagers stopped their effort.

He next announced that he would now buy monkeys
at £20 each. This renewed the efforts of the villagers
and they started catching monkeys again.

Soon the supply diminished even further and people
started going back to their farms. The offer increased
to £25 each and the supply of monkeys became so
scarce it was an effort to even find a monkey, let alone catch it!

The man now announced that he would buy monkeys
at £50 each! However, since he had to go to the city
on some business, his assistant would buy on his behalf.

In the absence of the man, the assistant told the villagers: ‘Look at all these monkeys in the big cage that the man has already collected. I will sell them to you at £35 and when the man returns from the city, you can sell them to him for £50 each.’

The villagers rounded up all their savings and bought
all the monkeys for 700 billion pounds.

They never saw the man or his assistant again, only
lots and lots of monkeys!

Now you have a better understanding of how the
UK ECONOMY BAIL OUT PLAN WILL WORK !!!!
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Isonomia,

Lenzie 11/01/2009 09:29:13
As someone once said: "You shouldn't try to buck the market". There are very good reasons why banks are not lending money, and that is because anyone handing out loans at the moment SHOULD EXPECT a large number not to be repaid.

So, in steps the idiots of new labour who think they can just dole out our money in a vain attempt to restart their "boroow-to-boom-to-bust" debtoconomy just long enough to get that temporary boom before they go to the polls.

These politicians will end up in jail when ordinary people discover that there's no such thing as a risk free mortguage - and they end up paying for the politicians vanity!
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Marian,

11/01/2009 09:37:38
New Labour's huffing and puffing about bank lending rate is a bit false too. The banks in the best position to cut rates are those that have not had the injection of funds from the UK taxpayer. The reason is that the taxpayer (through the UK government) is charging about 14% on those funds. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that if your money is costing you between 5% and 14% you will go broke lending it out at 3.5%. The publicly funded banks need to charge more to give the return to the taxpayer.
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Ju@nkerr.,

11/01/2009 09:48:24
#8 - Cheevers loophole - Tulip Mania was when the Banks decided to buy tulips during a bad crop in the hope they could sell them on and make multiples of their original investment. However they miscalculated, the tulips went of after a few weeks!

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Ju@nkerr.,

11/01/2009 09:50:09
#51 - Spot on. This is all about securing another term for Gordon, As he allready knows once in you can spend the next 4 yas sticking two fingers up too the public as New Labour have done since 1997. A cynical and destructive pile of wasters.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 11/01/2009 10:00:59
Lord give us strength. Is there no end to this man's (well Broon's, Darling is only the glove puppet) idiocy. When no-one can afford to get on to the bottom rung of the ladder, then it is obvious the price of houses has gone as high as it can. The price of houses can only rise in line with the level of wages, not faster. We'd got way beyond this so we need to rein back. IT'S SO FECKIN' EASY TO UNDERSTAND, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS MAN??
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A Crofter,

Western Isles 11/01/2009 10:15:53
In the interests of concise reporting, this article should have been edited to: "... Darling ... desperate ...".
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Observer,,

Glasgow 11/01/2009 10:18:57
56 He is insane, he is barking mad. House prices need to go back to realistically affordable levels otherwise people are necessarily going to have to live in huge indebtedness for the whole of their lives. What kind of government uses tax payers money to encourage sheer fecklesness. They are bonkers and must be got rid of because we are ALL going to end up paying through the nose for this, and if he starts printing money to pay for it all, we can kiss any savings we have goodbye, as inflation goes through the roof.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 11/01/2009 10:32:13
#58 Observer

Stop this being in agreement already, it's making me uneasy.
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Itchy,

11/01/2009 10:42:52
"ALISTAIR Darling is set to back a £100bn gamble"

Alistair Darling and Taxer Brown are incompetent and iliterate. This is yet another irrational attempt to get a free lunch and spend our way out of recession.
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Liberal for life,

Dunblane 11/01/2009 10:42:56
Considering the biggest problem right now is getting the banks and other lenders to provide decent credit for even relatively low risk persoanl mortgages, business overdrafts etc I reckon that Darling is right to try and help further stimulate/support this sector. The no action alternative from the likes of the Tories will do nothing. All we need now is for IT to be reduced for the middle to low income sector so real people get some real money back in their pockets to spend as they see fit again.
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Bill Offshore,

Banchory 11/01/2009 10:43:59
#23 dekester
I have a nice 4 bedroomed detached house right opposite a golf course in Lumpanan (just outside Aberdeen) That I willing to sell
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Nikostratos,,

11/01/2009 10:57:04
#62 Bill Offshore

"That I willing to sell"

in a falling market brave or foolish?
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Buckfastleigh,

11/01/2009 11:16:27
Will a Mortgage famine mean a fall in Buckie wine or will it signal a welcome return to the heavenly brew for most failed home buyers?

No doubt we will be told when the Treasury reports on this aspect of the financial crisis.

My friendly neighbourhood store reported that the Christmas season saw all Champagne disappear from their shelves.

I do hope this is not a sign of things to come. Perhaps Gordon will also nationalize the Abbey and with it the Buckie water of life: buy while stocks last!
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arc of insolvency,

11/01/2009 11:39:03
As Scottish businesses complain about the SNP's lack of action with the powers they do have the SNP just get on with trying to get more powers.

And the SNP supporters on here try to justify the SNP's relevance. It all smarm and no substance.
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Toast,

11/01/2009 11:43:04
What a load of rubbish,if you are wanting to borrow a sensible ammount there are no shortage of mortgage deals on offer,some of them pretty good,it is the "silly money" borrowers that are having problems,typical labour helping the fools and crooks but screwing the responsible savers and borrowers ,we just pick up the tab.
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bumpkin,

11/01/2009 11:43:41
will darling back me to open a new factory to make things people want, while providing employment?
i think not.
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jdships,

Edinburgh 11/01/2009 11:52:44

" When no-one can afford to get on to the bottom rung of the ladder, then it tells us the price of houses has gone too high .
The price of houses can only rise in line with the level of wages, not faster."
This comment was made to me by my accountant nearly two years ago.
Did Brown , Darling et al just turn a blind eye ?

Now there is an extra factor in the equation JOB LOSSES.
Surely the risk factor for the tax payer outweighs the
rewards - another potential disaster for the Government !
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It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 11/01/2009 12:03:40
This is just another blind act of unfocused ill-thought out desperation - "do anything, risk anything". It will all end in tears and God help us all then.
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Tris,

11/01/2009 12:19:10


The man is a genius.

Sub prime loans on falling house prices to people who may very well lose their jobs, all backed by our money.

Why didn't anyone think of that before?

What a joke.



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Dekester,

Canada's westcoast 11/01/2009 12:49:14
# 30 thanks..I hadn't thought of that location.

All the best.
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Martyk,

11/01/2009 13:40:08
Welcome to the world of Mugabenomics. ( not copyrighted so steal and use at your pleasure). We should turf this shower out next opportunity. Apart from the economics they are eroding our personal freedoms too. Magna Carta ! Did she die in vain ?
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Xhile,

Downthere 11/01/2009 13:42:41
I look around the streets of our cities and I don't see hundreds of thousands of homeless people.
Why therefore are Brown and Darling so desperate to start people off again on the over-priced housing mortgage chase which has already brought the country to it's knees?
We are in a mess because this crazed Labour Government encouraged everyone to spend spend spend until the bubble burst and now having received the approval of economic expert Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe, the idiots want to repeat the exercise all over again - this time with vast sums of taxpayers money!
You can't cure an excess of borrowing by borrowing even more!
If these people aren't thrown out soon we will be left with an economy and a country totally beyond repair.
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livilion,

livingston 11/01/2009 14:09:50
How can Alistair Darling underwrite lending for future budgets which haven't yet been set, and how can the chancellor saddle future governments with debts not of their own making?
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livilion,

livingston 11/01/2009 14:14:15
Lets see: the UK economy is in trouble largely because of individuals taking on massive credit debts based on gross overvaluation of properties in Middle England.
So the answer is kick start another housing bubble in the south east. Genius.
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Mcsnagpile,

11/01/2009 14:17:27
There is nothing like a weee tinker if ye are a weee tinker.
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livilion,

livingston 11/01/2009 14:20:38
#65 arc of insolvency,

And what should the SNP be doing, specifically, with the limited powers they do have? Print more money, borrow to get more capital infrastructure projects under way, generate unemployment to restore government spending to equilibrium?
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Son of one of Stirlings finest,

Weston S Mare 11/01/2009 16:10:48
82#/83# Aberdeenshire Scot.

Shame on you assuming Rufus T Fireflys identity to promote discussion about your own abnormalities.
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Western Gael,

11/01/2009 16:17:46
71 Tris

Good comment on the sub-prime issue. If you change “UK Government” in the following quotation from this article, "UK Government would guarantee mortgage bonds, where banks parcel up individual home loans and sell them to investment firms" to “Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,” you would have the precise reason that lending ground to a halt in the US. So many “toxic” loans were hidden in those parcels that building societies, credit unions and even the most robust banks had no confidence in those transactions. The difference between the UK and the US is that on the Western Shores of the Atlantic, no lender in his right mind would have approved home loans up to five times the earnings of the applicant. As for Darling to propose this initiative, he should be reminded that doing the same thing and expecting different results is one definition for “insanity.”
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Son of one of Stirlings finest,

Weston S Mare 11/01/2009 16:22:35
85# Aberdeenshire Scot.
Obviously your partner Cecil bought you a medical dictionary for Xmas. How did you do in the sales, did you get your self some new pyjamas.
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Westfield Bairns,

falkirk 11/01/2009 16:31:50
The loathed and anti-Scottish Gordon Brown will do anything to stay in power, whats another 100 billion of UK debt as he has already bancrupt the State.
The guy is obviously clueless and lives in a twilight World. The man has psychological issues and the quicker he goes the better
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ddmc,

11/01/2009 16:44:10
poofs
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Martyk,

11/01/2009 16:50:08
Darling is English anyway. So that explains it.
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Finnzz,

11/01/2009 17:52:37
#62 Bill, Offshore

Nice area but that golf course is a joke...and the Macbeth is a tip.

It would seem that Darling has a very short memory. He cannot remember what got us into this mess in the first place which was spending beyond our means. If he thinks that more spending beyond our means is going to solve the problem, he's got his heid up his rectum. (or more likely Browns rectum.)
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Rabster,

11/01/2009 18:16:33
Who has persuaded Darling this is a good idea? Why does the Government not appreciate that falling house prices are a GOOD THING for virtually everybody apart from buy-to-let speculators and property developers! Why can we not just let prices come down naturally?
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322,

Edinburgh 11/01/2009 18:38:25
"The proposed scheme means the UK Government would guarantee mortgage bonds, where banks parcel up individual home loans and sell them to investment firms."

Sounds familiar is this not called subprime lending?
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Son of one of Stirlings finest­,

Weston S Mare 11/01/2009 19:15:29
I am very concerned, here is why...

I wipe my boty very well -- I mean VERY well -- and go without farting, or much activity (my boyfriend Rufus knows what I mean by activity), butI'll go back to the bathroom a few hours later because something feels a little wrong and I wipe my botty and it looks like I didn't wipe it the last time I had a number two.

It's not liquidy or anything, it just looks like I didnt wipe very well. I don't eat alot of fat or chips, I don't drink, and I only have moderate back door action with Rufus (he is usually too busy on here)... I don't know why this happens. Anyone else have this problem? Is sweat like getting up in my botty and kinda loosening things up or something? Thanks for the help.
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Son of one of Stirlings finest,

Weston S Mare 11/01/2009 19:39:14
95# Aberdeenshire Scot, Post under my log in all you like, it want cause me a problem, but only serve to make you more pathetic than you already are.
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Il Penseroso,

Inverurie 11/01/2009 20:32:51
Can't all you "economists" out there get it into your thick heads that "economists" produce nothing we can sell to the world market.Fees is the name of the game! As a trading nation we need to SELL something to Earn something.Gordon and his Eyebrows don't get the message. Maggie stripped our production base and we are now a service industry. In a fiscal crisis a service based economy is a poor contestant. The Boom and Bust promise of Gordon Brown has been thoroughly discredited. New Labour are thoroughly discredited. Thanks to the war criminal Blair and his government the Union has run out of money. The "silver linings" on the horizon are political illusions and this recession can only get worse. The "silver lining" pundits are those who MAKE NOTHING, bet on the stock market and need to con the public that when all is back to normal the tax payer will create a market economy that they can once more milk for their own fiscal benefit.Capitalism is dead in the water and a new solution must be engineered. I'm relatively immune but my children, your children and subsequent grandchildren are faced with a terrible future. The Union has been shown to be a disaster. Let's get rid of it once and forall. Gordon Browm you are no more than an intellectual turnip and I wouldn't trust you with your father's collection plate. What a "Toom Tabard".
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Il Penseroso,

Inverurie 11/01/2009 20:42:15
#94 R-T-F If your chosen position with your partner is as comfortable as your unionist position I wish you every aid you can gather to end up in harmony with your Westminster a$£eholes.Boy have you got some explaining to do!
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B.Mason.,

Penkridge England. 11/01/2009 20:50:56
I would like to thank the Scotsman, and also the posters for their entertainment over the years, I have a friend, who I was in the army with, who came from Inverness, hence my interest in Scottish affairs. Thank you once again.
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gordon'sboomhasbust,

glasgow 11/01/2009 21:19:07
#30
East Neuk is nice but road links are still very poor. Dundee to Crail to Leven - nightmare !
Oh and house prices are a total rip off. Forget it.
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SeriouslyAmused,

Alexandria 11/01/2009 22:39:22
Darling must be bonkers. What the hell is the point in guaranteeing mortgages? Put the damned money into the citizens' pockets and let them then shore up the economy. For goodness sake, all the billions so far wasted could have been given directly to the people who spend it, save it, invest it.

How many thousands are there who dream of a wee windfall to take the risk on that business idea they have? Count me as one of them. If they all did it, then some would fall, some would succeed, but it would be money in the economy, AND potentially the re-starting of the economy with new ideas, products, services etc - not paper figures that inflate house prices anew and start the whole rotten shebang all over again.

Brown, Darling - in fact, the whole population of the UK - GET A GRIP!
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Kornelius,

Aberdeen 12/01/2009 08:05:06
No we don't need more mortgages, we need more council houses. How could a person on the minimum wage buy or rent a house at todays inflated prices?
People need to stop living beyond their means.
Stop all credit cards now!
All they do is line the banks with money.
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keithT,

UK 12/01/2009 09:57:24
When will the Labour Party learn? We have had several Labour Prime ministers lead us to the brink of bankruptcy and Brown looks as though he is hell bent on finishing the job. Stop tinkering and use the 100 billion to build Social Housing. God knows there are enough people out there who are desparate for somewhere to rent at a sensible cost. Perhaps even use the 100 billion to bring down the cost of the overpriced utilities. Do anything, but don't trust the banks to make it better. They are laughing at you Mr Brown, and so they should: you're like moth finding a candle and you will only burn your wings.
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Np57Np,

Cornwall 12/01/2009 11:03:49
I think this is window dressing for simply more cash to bail out the failing banks.

The weak banks should be allowed to fail, and stop wasting huge amounts of our cash.
No help for the saver then. What a surprise, not.

This is all part of McDoom's plan to totally wreck the economic infrastructure of the UK. But for what reason?
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A Friend of Fernando Poo,

12/01/2009 17:32:59
This is nuts! Securitisation of mortgages was a feature of the blowoff phase of the credit bubblee and has been responsible for the larger part of the damage in the bust.

Brown seems simply unable to grieve for the bubble and move on. Instead he wants to squander our savings on trying to resurrect the bubble as some kind of tax-sucking zombie.

If Brown is so determined to live in his now-discredited past, then the country deserves a leader willing to get us through this mess and into the future.

Meanwhile, the banks should learn to match borrowers to depositors rather than praying, like some sort of cargo cult, for the return of the bubble.
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SkeptikScot,

13/01/2009 03:43:49
Where's this govt. money coming from? Is that the sound of an over-worked printing press I hear?

 

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