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Published Date: 18 March 2007
By LISA J ADAMS
IN MEXICO CITY
AN ECONOMIST and a journalist have become the first couple united under Mexico City's new gay civil union law, kissing while a string orchestra played 'Besame Mucho' and police cordoned off streets around a white wedding tent.
The new law grants same-sex couples inheritance rights and social benefits similar to those enjoyed by married heterosexual couples. It reflects a growing acceptance of homosexuality in what has traditionally been a macho society, as well as a willingness by Mexico City - the second municipality in the country to legalise same-sex unions - to join the international debate on gay 'marriage'.

After dating for more than four years, journalist Antonio Medina, 38, and economist Jorge Cerpa, 31, signed documents under a banner that read: "Civil Union Law: Your right to choose."

Dozens of supporters, including several couples who plan to register their own same-sex unions soon, waved rainbow flags, showered the couple with flower petals and shouted "Bravo!" Firecrackers exploded nearby.

"With this law, a history of exclusion comes to an end," Medina said. "The love that before did not dare speak its name has now entered the public spotlight."

"Love now has one less obstacle," said Mexico City lawmaker Victor Hugo Cirigo, a supporter of the new statute.



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  • Last Updated: 17 March 2007 7:45 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Gay and Lesbian issues
 
1

Just another Realist,

18/03/2007 04:33:34

How sad, such a lawless corrupt poor country that won't even put its own people to work now promotes deviants to wed. This will only increase Aids which in turn will put more of a burden on the heath care system in Mexico.

As with every society thru out history once the majority of the population embraces this deviant behavior the society collapses, this will only accelerate Mexico's downhill slide.

2

Yane,

Uluru 18/03/2007 07:21:29

#1 Ha! Ha! Och yer a card!

Congratulations to Antonio & Jorge -- I hope you live long & happy lives together.

3

maestra,

18/03/2007 08:04:45

Excellent! It will certainly be a boost for tourism! Viva Mexico!

4

Cadgers,

Perth 18/03/2007 09:59:44

#1 I'm speechless, I know you can spell realist but do you know what it means?

5

musicismylife,

18/03/2007 11:15:46

I'd like to point out that my husband Scaramouche was banned for whatever reasons, we do not know.

Yet, these forums are filled day after day with outright homophobic and racist rants like that of #1, which the Scotsman allows. Where's the fairness?

Scaramouche has a gay cousin. He grew up in an area and a time where it would have been suicide to be openly gay. You have no idea of how his life was. He didn't ask to be gay, but he IS as nature intended him. And that's just as it should be. Anyone who condemns homosexuals obviously does not know any at a personal level .... and they are the poorer for it.

We are 100% behind him and his friends in acheiving total equality with the hetero society. And it's good to see mainly Catholic Mexico take this step.

What do the naysayers want .... a homogeneous or heterogeneous society??

6

Makes sense to me,

18/03/2007 11:19:15

They say Tijuana Mexico has been famous for the donkey show for over 50 years. What’s will be the next step? A few years from now Mexico will recognize the marriage of women and the donkeys? This gay marriage thing is a bad snowball.

7

Makes sense to me,

18/03/2007 11:22:47

7. musicismylife

Maybe he was going around calling people names like you just did! People are alllowed to have opinions. rather that calling posters names like you just called #1 a racists, why don't you debate what they said if you disagree.

8

Eucalyptus girl,

Adelaide, oz 18/03/2007 11:44:49

1. Just another Realist

Great post!

I'm sure the down hill slide you are talking about is a disease infested mudslide.

9

Biker,

Ayr 18/03/2007 11:50:25

First of all... BRING BACK SCARAMOUCHE!!!!! His threads are well observed and humourous.

Gay Marrages.... Good for them and I hope they will be happy. Well done Mexico

10

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18/03/2007 12:21:20
Comment Removed By Administrator
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11

Kdv,

18/03/2007 12:37:04

Mexico has sold its soul, all for the Yankee dollar.
Reason being they want to keep on the good side of the new world order. Which also encourages homosexuality, so the masses can be easier to control?

12

Masque,

Bring back Scaramouche support group 18/03/2007 13:23:09

#12. That's YOUR opinion. Mine is very different.

I see Scaramouche as a witty, intelligent person who can take songs and rewrite them in a ver funny way. He has NEVER lowered himself as I recall, to the level of many of the posters on this forum. And he has been a prolific satirical commentator, unlike you whose name I can't remember seeing before!

Yes his wife can (and does) have a go at people, but she was honest enough to say in a post that she was not as nice a person as her husband!

In fact, I echo her sentiment and can't understand why the Scotman is allowing so many homophobes on these threads!

In case you're wondering, no I don't know Scaramouche or his wife, but I do appreciate the laughs the man has given me in his parodies!

13

Makes sense to me,

18/03/2007 13:44:32

14. Masque & musicismylife

Why on earth would you want to censor people that have a different view than you??? You make it seem like there is something wrong with being a Homophobe, I know some very good decent people who proudly describe themselves as Homophobes. Just as I know people who openly admit they are Homosexuals. There is nothing wrong with having an opinion feeling homosexuality is wrong weather your belief is based on religion, nature, or just your own personal reasons, it’s your choice. I respect your opinion either way, it’s your opinion. I do take issue with people like you who will not keep the doors open for discussion and automatically go into attack mode.

If you call a Homophobe a bigot, you yourself are a censoring bigot.

14

billsmith1963,

18/03/2007 13:52:30

You are supposed to be commenting on homosexuals getting married in Mexico.
It is not a get out of jail plea for Scaramouche.
As for my opinion.
Gayisim in mass in any country will eventually be the down fall of that said country.
And I am not homophobic.

15

Makes sense to me,

18/03/2007 13:56:01

#16

Well said

Not that there is anything wrong with being homophobic...

16

Marie1,

18/03/2007 14:07:34

Our country has taken a fast way of going down the road to disaster. Too many homosexual MPs. Mexico will go the same way. I agree with 13. Kdv & 15. Makes sense to me

17

Finnking,

Bring back Scaramouche Support Group 18/03/2007 14:23:19

I can't understand the desire to get married never mind the desire to do so in the eyes of god, but...if they are happy, i'm happy for them.

Big change for a predominately catholic country.

Regarding the ridiculous comment above about AIDS: Africa has a major problem with AIDS and problem that would have been a lot less so if the catholic kirk there didn't go around telling folk that condoms had no protection against HIV.

18

Makes sense to me,

18/03/2007 14:30:56

19. Finnking

Dr. Livingstone did not convert that part of Africa that believes the brother must have sex with his brother’s widow after he dies even though they know he just died from Aids. Africa and Mexico are worlds apart. Not just in distance but in customs.

19

Finnking,

Bring Back Scaramouche Support Group 18/03/2007 15:12:52

20. Makes sense to me

I was just making the points a) the AIDS comment above is absurd (beyond it just being an opinion) and b) the Catholics have helped the spread of the virus.

Did Dr. Lingstone convert folk?

20

Finnking,

Bring Back Scaramouche Support Group 18/03/2007 15:14:26

14. Masque

Nice 'location'text. Well done. Hope you don't mind if I join in. Freedom of expression must be supported.

21

Makes sense to me,

18/03/2007 15:24:29

21. Finnking

Dr. Livingstone did not have a very good success rate converting the Africans, I guess that's why so many are dieing of Aids today.

Your comment blaming the Catholics on spreading Aids is disingenuous. Outside of Africa, Homosexuals and needle using drug users are the largest spreader of HIV and I would NOT consider them devote Catholics.

Inside of Africa the problem lies in unsafe customs that involves bisexuality and as already mentioned customs that mandate sex with known infected people.

22

Biker,

Ayr 18/03/2007 16:05:25

Good point Finnking. I wonder how many homosexual catholics there actually are? Closet of course/

23

right of center,

chicago 18/03/2007 16:19:02

#21 Finnking

I wonder how many of the Gay Catholics are not wearing condones because it's a form of birth control?

I don’t believe your theory holds much water…

24

Masque,

Bring back Scaramouche support group 18/03/2007 16:31:33

First off, I am not in favour of censorship. Nor am I bigoted in any way (I hope). There is actually a lack of debate and more posturing on this forum than necessary. But to the point ....

It is the way the posters write on homosexual matters on this forum that just annoys the heck out of me. It is the uninformed and implied (when not said outright) nastiness that comes out. Like the comment that it is mainly gays who spread HIV. Excuse me, but that was disproven years ago. It is the straight and intravenous drug users who are the largest group of HIV spreaders. Go look it up. In 3rd world countries, it is also straight people who are spreading it. Hence the condition of Africa,
#1's view that homosexuals bring down civilisation is so biblical in its context, one ought to dismiss him as a typical religious fundie. Shades of Sodom and Gomorrah! Just the kind of ignorant bigotry I expect.

Like I said, I wouldn't like to think I'm a bigot, but if it means I am one where homophobia is concerned then so be it! There is absolutely no reason to fear homosexuals. And ever reason for them to fear us. This thread proves that!

I never thought I'd see legally recognised partnerships for gay people in my lifetime, and I'm still not sure I agree with adoption rights. But it does give gay partners the same rights as married couples. And that's all they want, to be equal with straights in the eyes of the law. What's so wrong with that??

If anyone appreciates Scaramouche's parodies like I do, please add the Bring back Scaramouche support group into the location bar. So far, he's not been as bad as some of us!

25

Makes sense to me,

18/03/2007 16:52:25

26. Masque

You are dead wrong on the transmission of HIV. Look at previous posts on Africa and it clearly states once you take Africa out of the equation, Homosexuals and drug users are the highest % of HIV transmitters. That may not be PC but it is a fact.

Africa is unique due to its customs, when the transmission is caused by people having to have sex with infected people when a family member passes of Aids you are going to have more cases, I group bisexuals in with homosexuals and that is another reason Africa has a large HIV/Aids population.

The fact of the matter is that any one can contract HIV but the media and liberal groups mostly for funding reasons has put out a false message trying to insinuate that everyone has the same chance of contracting HIV which is pure nonsense.

Homosexual men have a much much higher chance of contracting HIV than that of strait men. That is a fact that can not be denied.

26

billsmith1963,

18/03/2007 16:52:33

I am not homophobic, none the less your extreme right wing homosexual views are very intimidating. A lesser minded person than myself could very easily turn homophobic, if they read your comments. You seem to have your own homosexual agenda. Which you wish, to force on to others. You seem to be very anti heterosexual. In return you are doing the homosexual cause more harm than good.
Which could be a good thing.

27

billsmith1963,

18/03/2007 16:54:02

Comment 28 is for 26. Masque

28

Robin Bather,

Mexico 18/03/2007 17:41:05

I have lived and worked in Mexico for over 35 years.
The Catholic Church does indeed hold sway for many millions of people, especially the poor, who are brought up in a very conservative way where the local priest can and does interfere with their lifestyle and customs. "El Padrecito" will indoctrinate the faithfull from birth, ensuring in a very suave way that the church is revered and it's customs obeyed. Some country priests will even refuse to baptise chidren with a name that not included in the official saints list. Contraception is presented as murder.
It is the iron fist in a velvet glove.
Generally speaking, the middle/upper class educated people will profess to being devout Catholics and many still go to mass every Sunday, however I would suspect that the majority do not obey the rule against the use of birth control. These families usually have two or perhaps three children whilst the poor masses still often have four, five or more.
Condom use is actively promoted by government birth control and anti AIDS programmes despite the Catholic Church's protests. Condoms are openly on sale at all chemists and there seems to be no shame attached to buying them. Condoms are advertised on TV.
Having said all this, I would consider Mexico to be a homophobic country with most people easily making anti gay jibes and laughing at homosexual jokes.
However this anti gay undercurrent very rarely presents itself as gay bashing, killing or public ridicule, and in this aspect many coud learn a lot from Mexico's easy going lifestyle.

Good luck to these two people who only want to be happy.

Finally, with regards to #8, I also have heard of the Tijuana donkey show which caters mainly for upstanding US citizens who cross the border to get drunk, buy drugs and enjoy this type of show.
I've also heard of an Ipswich, Suffolk man who murdered several prostitutes.
Case rests.

29

Finnking,

Bring Back Scaramouche Support Group 18/03/2007 18:29:31

23. Makes sense to me

"Your comment blaming the Catholics on spreading Aids is disingenuous."

--No it's not. It was (factual) swipe at the comments related to HIV transmission and the 'shock horror' a kirk married two blokes posts. The use of the condom is a very good way of reducing all STDs. The Catholic kirk promotes the idea that the condom is bad/won't protect you = increased spread of HIV.

"Inside of Africa the problem lies in unsafe customs that involves bisexuality and as already mentioned customs that mandate sex with known infected people."

--well, logically and physically, I know that I simply would be unable to get an erection if I knew that the offered oraface would kill me. So, it comes down Education Vs. Ignorance. Who provides many villages with 'education'? What organisation is it that gives sex-ex to many Africans? Yes, the Catholic kirk who think condoms are bad and, let's be honest, sex ed from a nun?Come on.

30

Finnking,

Bring Back Scaramouche Support Group 18/03/2007 18:35:30

25. right of center, chicago

"I don’t believe your theory holds much water…"

No theory, just a factual point to promote constructive debate. Or, to wind up the religious folk!

31

Love & Peace,

18/03/2007 20:24:56

I'm shocked Bikewoman has not chimed in on this article, she is a militant gay woman.

32

Finnking,

Bring Back Scaramouche Support Group 18/03/2007 21:14:34

I am not at all surprised that Love & Peace has made a post about Bikewoman.

Could this L&P actually be the cretin who, under various stolen names, littered the fora a few weeks back with various posts from the closet?

If not, define 'gay' and then have a go at defining 'militant'.

33

Bikewoman,

Bring Back Scaramouche Support Group 18/03/2007 23:34:14

Hmmm - the trolls spend alot of time on the stories dealing with gay issues. Wonder why that is...

34

Em,

19/03/2007 00:21:27

Some may find this link interesting.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=766492922532009...

35

Bikewoman,

19/03/2007 12:47:43

What is doubly sad about this is that the gay community really came out in support of the civil rights movement in the 60s because they had hoped to make the issue understood that everyone deserves to be treated as 100% human and with equal rights. They couldn't come out in support of their own cause because they could be persecuted, jailed, committed to a mental insitution. Fine thanks they get from the african american community here.

As for the gay movement "not being a civil rights movement" and instead a "movement to support bedroom mantics" - consider that anyone who advocates treating gays as second class citizens and denying them the same rights and protections as others is claiming a false superiority and a prerogative based on their "bedroom antics."

36

Doubting Thomas,

London 19/03/2007 13:12:39

41. Bikewoman

You should be ashamed of yourself comparing blacks to homosexuals. Blacks are members of a race of people. Homosexuals can be willing participants from any race. Blacks, whites, and other races do not pick their race but homosexuals choose to act on their deviant lifestyle. I’m a black person that has lived in London for the past 26 years but my first 15 years were spent near Los Angeles, Ca. I resent homosexuals saying that blacks should be speaking up for homosexuals now since they spoke for us then, that is outrageous.

37

Bikewoman,

19/03/2007 15:44:05

#43 Doubting Thomas

You know, these same kinds of essentialists arguments were used to deny african americans their rights for decades and decades. Homosexuals "pick" their sexual orientation? Think again. This is the same old clap trap whereby homophobes try to make a virtue out of being straight as though they "chose" it.

You are a bigot - plain and simple - no different than the people who argued that black people were sub-human. I guess you have really arrived when you can rally together with the same people who once oppressed the minority group to which you belong.

38

Bikewoman,

Bring Back Scaramouche Support Group 19/03/2007 15:46:30

#42 Horrible Cankers

You are absolutely right - the african americans in that bit of propoganda speak only for themselves. Thanks for pointing it out.

39

Principal Howell,

19/03/2007 23:23:00

43. Doubting Thomas, London

You have to ignore Bigots like Bikewoman & Horrible Cankers, they want to force their chosen way of life down as many throats as possible. The more “deviants” they have around them the more comfortable and acceptable they feel. They have even gotten to the point of trying to say deviant is a bad word when every one knows it means deviating from the norm and next they will say being a homosexual is not deviating from the norm. Did you see their ridiculous logic…? Did you choose to be a heterosexual? LOL It’s a simple answer of choosing right over wrong.


 

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