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Published Date: 18 February 2007
A FORMER mayor has demanded an apology for an accusation of unintentional discrimination against homosexuals after calling for more homes to be built for families.
John Hipkin, a Liberal Democrat councillor in Cambridge, says he is "enraged and distressed" that he is the subject of a complaint of 'heterosexism' - the unintentional discrimination towards or against non-heterosexuals due to cultural bias.

He
has demanded a formal apology and retraction from the council's equal opportunities officer, who took up the complaint after it was lodged by the Lesbian, Gay and Transsexual Group, which represents members on the council staff.

Hipkin, a retired family man, sparked the complaint at a planning meeting last autumn when he said: "We keep getting developments of one and two-bedroom houses. I wonder whether this is putting huge pressure of a contraceptive nature on this city.

"People presumably start off single or young marrieds and have children, don't they? Where are they going to go?"

Hipkin, who has a gay brother, said yesterday that he took "deep exception" to the allegation that his comments had been discriminatory.

"I don't think the quote in any way suggests that the speaker is being heterosexist," he said.

"Family homes can be built for gay people with children. More and more gay couples want to adopt children.

"I have a couple of lesbian friends, both of whom have children through IVF. I remember them saying: 'When we have children we're going to need a larger home'."

He said: "My own brother is gay. I have a lot of gay friends. I've just spent a holiday in Italy with a gay friend.

"I treat all people equally and I love people for what they are, not for what their sexual preferences are."

The council leader, Ian Nimmo-Smith, claimed the affair had been blown out of proportion, and said: "His remarks were capable of being interpreted as non-inclusive. I am not sure an apology is owed."



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  • Last Updated: 17 February 2007 7:06 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Gay and Lesbian issues
 
1

Gnasher,

18/02/2007 01:40:38

The Councillor is quite right to complain. And what is a junior officer doing not going through the Chief Executive on such a matter? It looks like there's personal and political animosity.

2

Alistair Stewart,

DUNDEE 18/02/2007 01:44:05

Ridiculous - this Lesbian, Gay and Transsexual Group are making idiots of themselves. I say this as a gay man - I 100% support John Hipkin - even though he is a misguided Liberal!!!

3

Dougie, Edinburgh,

18/02/2007 02:06:39

Fire every council equal opportunities officer and save millions in council tax

4

maestra,

18/02/2007 07:45:20

Gay people have families too - what's the problem?

5

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18/02/2007 07:54:46
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Derek Williams,

Edinburgh 18/02/2007 09:02:52

#5 - I don't suppose you'd care to do something to stop the bullying? It's not so long ago that children with one white and one black parent were getting taunted and beaten up at school. An equivalent scenario applied - the poor child said, "this is my Mum and Dad". People of good will have worked long and hard to challenge this racism with considerable success.

Comparably, children born out of wedlock were written off as illegitimate 'bastards', in other words the social norm used to be that we would punish the children for the choices of their parents.

Having said that, I completely support Councillor Hipkin and agree with #1,#2, #4 - the LGBT Group have indeed brought the gay rights campaign into disrepute. They should make a full retraction and formal apology.

7

Scaramouche,

18/02/2007 10:56:56

Hipkin might be the only Libdem I ever agree with!

8

alicia,

18/02/2007 11:31:13

5 - you're a downright tube. Too stupid to realise it's people with YOUR mentality that do the gay bashing.

This guy hasn't been discriminating at all, it's a knee jerk reaction by the LGBT group. Gays as well as heterosexuals need larger houses also.

9

the_big_kev,

china 18/02/2007 11:31:25

.......My own brother is gay. I have a lot of gay friends. I've just spent a holiday in Italy with a gay friend....oh aye! is there something I've been missing out on all these years? I've never had any gay friends....YET!

#5, u better get a new email address handy, and create a new log in for this rag...I can see u getting banned for some of those words.... been there done it, hahaha

10

Derek Williams,

Edinburgh 18/02/2007 12:47:06

#9 - You may very well have gay friends without knowing it. It is highly unlikely that they'd confide something as personal as this with you if they thought they were going to be called the names you said you were banned from this paper for.

I'm sure you think you'd know, however it is dead easy for most gay people to pretend to be straight, even to the point of marrying someone they're not attracted to, and masquerading homophobia if they believe their life depends on it.

No-one guessed NBA sports star John Amaechi was gay before he came out recently, nor come to that, Hollywood hunk Rock Hudson until he came down with AIDS and had to 'fess up as to how he came by the illness. There are thousands more examples like these two, where you just don't know until they tell you.

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the_big_kev,

china 18/02/2007 14:35:12

#10.....you don't know my mates!!! but if u can add extra marital affairs and screwing holidays to Thailand to your list of masquerades then they've fooled me all this time!

I'm sorry to say I do think that I can tell when someone is gay... there are generally mannerisms (I'm not talking the typical stereo types either) and other tell tale signs like no interest in women, not married beyond that certain age.... there's a long list.

I've got a friend who lives with 2 Thai women. This has been going on for nearly 5 years, they are all very happy and live like any normal 3-some do (Yes, for those of you who are thinking......). It is not actually a rare situation in Thailand but 5 years is unusual and suggests longevity.

My friend has a problem, one day he would love to come back to Scotland and set up home with the 2 girls. However when he has spoken with the GB embassy in Bangkok he get all kinds of garbage and a polite NO!

My point.... lots of special treatment for Gays but nothing in the book for this guy. What gets me is, there are muslims living in GB with 2 wives, they must have got them in some how. Similarly if he set up home with 2 porkers from Glasgow nothing could be done.

We'll see the movie one day!! I'm penning it now!

12

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18/02/2007 17:29:52
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13

musicismylife,

18/02/2007 19:40:39

#12. Please never mention piles the siz of grapes ever again. I feel quite woozy now!


 

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