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Published Date: 22 March 2009
IT'S long been the advice of seasoned drinkers. Rightly or wrongly, Scots for generations have been told to line their stomachs before taking a dram. We haven't, however, being paying attention, at least according to the latest research.
New figures yesterday revealed that Scots down a far smaller proportion of their annual intake of drink with their meals than their English neighbours.

In fact, the average Scot went through just 58% of his or her total consumption of alcohol at
dinner last year, down from 67% in 2005 and well below a comparable figure of 75% in England.

Wine and spirits industry leaders last night said the figures, from market research firm TNS Worldpanel, showed that the English were far more influenced than the Scots by what they regard as a healthier continental attitude to alcohol.

The French, Spaniards and Italians traditionally sit down to dinner with a glass of wine while northern Europeans, the stereotype goes, prefer to binge on an empty stomach.

The new figures were yesterday latched on to by the industry figures lobbying against the Scottish Government's proposed crackdown on how alcohol is sold. The SNP administration, among other proposals, including minimum prices, wants to end what it believes are "irresponsible" cross promotions of drink and food, which many health experts believe are luring Scots into buying drink they didn't set out to purchase. The drinks industry counters that the offers are exactly what is needed – to promote continental-style wining and dining.

Supermarket Morrisons led the charge against the SNP ban on cross promotions. "A combined Government and industry campaign to communicate that a good way to drink responsibly is to consume alcohol with a main meal could be an effective way of driving behavioural change," the retail giant said.

Jeremy Beadles, the chief executive of the Wine and Spirits Trade Association, an industry lobby, yesterday challenged evidence from doctors and researchers that suggests people are more likely to drink more because of supermarket offers of alcohol with food. "Do we really think somebody who has a problem with alcohol is more likely to give up drinking if they aren't allowed to buy a meal deal with wine?"

He said he believed that selling drink and food together helped to "normalise sensible drinking rather than demonise alcohol".

Evelyn Gillan, the chief executive of medical group Scottish Health Action on Alcohol Problems, last night scoffed at the use of the word "normalise". She countered: "The whole point is that alcohol is not a normal product as the industry wish to portray it. It is a psychoactive potentially addictive substance, which, according to the Royal Society, ranks third among dangerous drugs behind heroin and cocaine.

"Alcohol consumption has leapt up over the last 30 or so years as licensing laws were liberalised and availability increased. We would challenge the very idea that alcohol is a ordinary product."

Health campaigners across the globe have applauded the Scottish Government crackdown on cross and other promotions and its championing of minimum pricing, with Liam Donaldson, the chief medical officer in England and Wales, proposing a similar scheme last week.

Gillan and other health campaigners believe too many Scots are being lured into buying alcohol they hadn't intended to purchase by multibuy or food and wine offers in supermarkets. Scotland's per-capita consumption of pure alcohol has now topped 11 litres a year, the eighth-highest figure in the world.

Peter Anderson, a former GP and alcohol policy advisor to the World Health Organisation and the European Commission, yesterday said: "The Scottish Government is doing what other countries want to do but don't have the courage to do."

Scotland on Sunday's wine critic, Will Lyons, last night came out in forthright support of a glass of wine with dinner – but attacked gassy, high-strength products that have replaced traditional weaker British beverages. "I detest drinking without food much in the same way that I detest eating without wine," he said. "Of course it is true that it is perfectly possible to drink any form of alcohol without food but it's rather like watching your favourite film without sound.

"Wine in particular is transformed by food and similarly wine has the same effect on food as a spice does. Acids, tannins and sugars all interact with food to provide different taste sensations. Match these with the right dish and the transformation can be incredible"







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  • Last Updated: 21 March 2009 7:28 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Alcohol & binge drinking
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 22/03/2009 00:26:50


"I detest drinking without food much in the same way that I detest eating without wine,"

I detest all the moaning about alcohol, and being treated as a,...'Headless Chicken'

SO!,...'STICK IT WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE!!


2

awantapassport,

22/03/2009 02:26:20
Charles... slainte va... or maybe o n a n e m t y s t o m a c h.... Mhath x
3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 22/03/2009 03:28:46

awantapassport ~2,

You are intriguing, Who are you?



4

awantapassport,

22/03/2009 03:31:09
SAOR ALBA

PROPOSITION:
Scotland and England would be much better of if the Union of 1707 were to be terminated.
5

Mcsnagpile,

22/03/2009 07:52:19
Food prices should be increased to reduce obesity; a tax should be put on food according to sugar, trans fat, and cholesterol content. A minimum tax based on calorie per gram must be instigated immediately. Sugar is addictive and is the number one dangerous drug in UK. All fast foods outlets should have a calorie, fat, salt and sugar content displayed on the menu.
In fact compulsory closure of fast food outlets would significantly reduce the burden on the health service.

Recommending people eat food with alcohol is irresponsible only compounding the obesity problem. The fast food eaters should also pay tax to pay for all the litter that is ruining the countryside ---all the smelly empty greasy bags and boxes.
6

JT,

22/03/2009 08:02:18
We may as well go back to rationing, ban alcohol, fags and processed foods!!! We need to look at the big picture first. Yes we have a problem with overdrinking and overeating. Alcohol is cheap and bad food is cheap, good food and wine is expensive.The facilities for health and fitness are expensive - even going for a swim you wont get much change out of a fiver! People dont drink on empty stomachs they drink on empty heid;s as they dont know any better!
7

BorderLineScottish,

22/03/2009 08:26:50
#4 awantapassport
"PROPOSITION:
Scotland and England would be much better of if the Union of 1707 were to be terminated."

PROPOSITION:
Go and spout your Nationalist cr@@@p elsewhere. This is about food and alcohol, not fu ck ing politics!

FOOD: If you eat too much, you get fat!
Alcohol: If you drink too much, you get pis sed!

Simple. Moderation in everything.

I agree with JT. The quality of affordable food and drink is yet another symptom of "rip-off" Briton.
8

Retiarius,

Batavadorum 22/03/2009 09:52:43
Good British cask ale IS a food. The idea that you have to have a full meal to enjoy it is preposterous.
Moderation, certainly - maybe even a pork pie to go with it - but please don't turn still more of our remaining Great British Pubs into bloody restaurants.
There's little more offputting than seeing the unpleasant detritus of crockery and tableware in a Great British Pub - a place which should be used primarily for (sensible) drinking and enlivening conversation and debate, and, possibly, darts. No, have a meal at home or a cafe down the road and THEN enjoy a beer or two. Incidentally the French addiction to table wine with every meal has given our Gallic friends frightening levels of cirhossis.
9

Retiarius,

Batavadorum 22/03/2009 09:54:34
Sorry - "cirrhosis"
10

Retiarius,

Batavadorum 22/03/2009 09:58:05
Also - repeal the smoking ban. It has driven civilised drinkers into the arms of deep-discounting supermarkets and, in Ireland, has actually INCREASED the number of smokers. Smoke-free rooms, compulsory smoking shelters with every licence, fine; but the ban is a classic example of a "health measure" which has had exactly the opposite effect to the one intended.
It has also accelerated the closure of the Great British Pub and is consequently evil and wrong.
11

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 22/03/2009 11:50:12
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/230378/Gordon-Browns-pal-Nigel-Griffiths-cheats-on-wife-with-brunette-on-Remembrance-Day-in-House-of-Commons.html?postingId=233522
12

Chuck.U.Farley,

22/03/2009 12:53:15
#1Charles,
You should not be drinking on an empty heid.
13

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 22/03/2009 15:36:06
Food just spoils the taste of the drink!
14

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 22/03/2009 15:47:45
oooooohhh no mrs no,the wine and cheese brigade will get angry,and start throwing rotten stilton about,we get enough reek from gordon brown and cabal
but of course one could merely just walk in morningside to suck up the reek of snobbery
cant people just enjoy a drink and a munch without kicking lumps out of each other
15

old copper,

dumfries 22/03/2009 17:47:35
The venom in some of these posts and the importance some people seem to put on alcohol indicates the level to which our addiction to that particular drug has evolved.

I doesn't matter whether you drink it on an empty or full stomach, its has much the same effect and, if the NHS statistics are to be believed, a substantial number of individuals will become alcoholic or drink to excess.

I understand there is now a fair amount of opinion in medical circles that even moderate drinking over a period of years causes harm to the body. After all, it is a poison.

However, mankind has always used drugs/substances for recreational purposes and always will, with or without food.
16

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 22/03/2009 19:28:03
They should advise responsible adults about drinking wine with lunch and Warfarin - ask the legacy of Donald Dewar.

17

Eve,

Scotland 22/03/2009 21:03:59
#5 Mcsnagpile: "A minimum tax based on calorie per gram must be instigated immediately. Sugar is addictive and is the number one dangerous drug in UK."

Pure pointless

1) You do realise that sugar is non-starchy Carbohydrates either mono (if the likes of glucoes or frutoes)or di (if likes of Sucorse (table sugar) or Lactoes). So there for with that logic it will be cheaper to buy a 100g of theose sugary jelly sweets than to buy a 100g of pasta because the pasta has other ingreadent besides carbs including egg which contains both fat and protein.

Where as at the moment pasta can make a cheep but substachal base of a healthy well blanced meal, if you were to add tomatoes and some peas or/and sweetcorn may be add a wee bit of meat.

Carbs have the lowest number of Kcal per 1g and fat has the highist number Kcals per gram.

2) There is no proff that sugar is addcitive. People are naturaly programmed to think sweet taste are edible and sour tastes are not so edable. It goes back to poisoness plants tasting bitter and fruit which clearly not poisoness tasting sweet. So there for you don't die or become sick after eating sweet tasting plants, or the logic went.

It's slightly similair with fat, the texture that fat gives food makes it more palatable. The human body need some fat and sugar consumption to funtion.

It's all a matter of training your taste buds really, to eat more savory foods.

3) It's pretty dangous to do such a thing in a middle of a ression as their would be a risk of famon in low income familes. Eating junk or food with a poor nutional vaule is better than eating nothing. Though it would be better if they could eat a blanced diet.
18

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 22/03/2009 21:50:22
-- There is no proof that sugar is addictive?

Then why did Glasgow flourish on it? See also tobacco and various acoholic drinks and MOTORS which councillors must drive about in. Sugar substitutes are typically far worse (like margerine) and will decompose in the digestion to very toxic substances.

It's maybe the primal addiction and easily leads to futher troubles like unteachable children, anti-social behaviour and onto the next drug.

No sane people have it promoted or offer it to their offspring.
19

Eve,

Scotland 23/03/2009 13:32:43
#18 Yok Finney: What kind of withdrawal symptom to people get from not eating sugar? Is it crankiness , feeling faint etc. these are sympotoms of being Kcal defesiont i.e. you haven't eaten for a while.

You do realise that complex carbohydrates which are present in many foods stables such a pasta, rice, potateos are broken down in to glucoes (a sugar) by the body.

So with the logic in think sugary foods are addictive it would also mean that foods like pasta and potatoes are addictive. Are people addicted to these such foods?

It's no an addiction it's the indivdauls eating habbits. Sure tobacco and acoholic drinks can be addictive.

 

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